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  • trokneterg6trokneterg6 Posts: 126Approved Member Trainee
    This Forum is the Hell
    Rhaellas
  • JamdariusJamdarius Posts: 57Approved Member Beginner
    Well they don't even get an idea how to fix forum, I don't expect anything now fro mthis game company...


    I couldn't let this game go for good but I guess it is time to move on...

    R.I.P Dekaron
  • Peach13Peach13 Posts: 15Approved Member Beginner
    So each time this game was taken from Gametribe it was worse and worse. When it turned into GameHi was bad too because they didn t have enough people lots of accs stolen, hackers, pay to win system ofc, then it was taken by Nexon it was indeed a little better if u think about security, wasn t perfect but a little better than GameHi, but that greedy retard company milked every cent out of this game, they didn t give a damn about players experience, it turned everything into pay to win by adding op stuff in Dshop.They also promised that it will make this game much better and they did it for them... by milking every single cent.After they finished with this game and took money from people they just threw it like a trash. So sad but true. I hope that Nexon gets bankrupt.
    Vertigo promised us just like Nexon that they will do that and that and that and they love this game and would like to develop it but all I see is that they can t even stop the damn spammers they moved from game on forum which is outrageous. We never got rid of those damn bots nobody fixed this issue and now it turns to be even worse. I don t know what s happening maybe they don t have enough people , in this case they should bring more devs and gms/moderators to take care of this. Also it s outrageous when u see how easy is to hack this game. All we got now is a company that is worse than Nexon; we gave them the chance but what they did was to add dhop content when we had bigger real problems then that.In dshop should only exist COSMETIC STUFF, NOTHING ELSE. Maybe it s time for this game to REST IN PEACE. Was a nice game but very bad developed and killed by all retard companies who took it.
    SojuPayToLose
  • Alii031Alii031 Posts: 342Approved Member Intermediate

    @Peach13 I agree, everyone bad talked on nexon but they did the only best thing any of the companys had done and that was keep the security up. I am disappointed however that they did as you said on making it pay to win.


    I have played since 07 and been/seen through all the errors and problems and were able to endure most of them but even from papaya and the login issue, been so frustrating,its one thing to have to deal with errors inside the game but when you get kicked to login all the time and makes it so you cant even play is tiring but I do try to understand papaya that they just got this game and new to them so hoping a lot they in sooner then later time will fix this, and we have to realize if they didn't take this game, it wouldn't be here now. so we have to try to be thankful to them for taking on this challenge and just hope, hope, hope now. we all don't want to be just posting negative words toword them because if they feel its not going anywhere the game will be finished and all lost. I am not excusing, because from my own experience of issues since the launch but just trying to understand too.

    Rhaellas
  • NZX005NZX005 Posts: 135Approved Member Trainee
    This is all but a result of trying to be different from the "Korean" version vs "Global" version. Players had always been clamoring for different events and balances that screwed the game. If only we'd sticked with the Korean version then all the devs have to worry about is the translation plus well get the same priority as the Koreans but hell no we want more. Now this game is riddled with bugs aside from tons of disconnection issues.
    Rhaellas
  • flocky55flocky55 Posts: 26Approved Member Beginner
    Jesus spaghetti christ this forum is a shit show!! 

    Surely the first thing you do when taking on a game with an already established (and jaded and whingey) player base is get a forum moderator??? This looks so unprofessional its not even funny anymore.
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  • FlyzaPlsFlyzaPls Posts: 63Approved Member Beginner
    edited August 2016
    Can't the creation of new forum spam accounts be easily countered with some CAPTCHA or other bot test? 

    And I don't know that much about website stuff but it shouldn't be that hard to update the register requirements with something like that?

    Correct me if I'm wrong though, but it's been 2 weeks by now?
    Rhaellas
  • ForumGearzForumGearz Posts: 25Approved Member Beginner
    @FlyzaPls well adding isnt that hard but making it secure thats what takes time since every textfield is a posible way to get to our account infos that are stored in a database since for whateva fail reaseon this forum is linked to our gameaaccounts what makes me kinda scary since it cant even hold back bots
  • PappyPlayPappyPlay Posts: 293Approved Member Intermediate
    @ForumnGearz Yes, I'm surprised that Papaya doesn't have a secured link.  I don't think it would be difficult to at least put something like that into place.

    But I did get a message from GM Elanin saying that this was their highest priority, stopping the Forum bots.  And it's put "a damper" on Papaya resolving other game issues.
    Rhaellas
  • h2obrrh2obrr Posts: 290Approved Member Intermediate
    @PappyPlay

    Gosh, if its the highest priority and 2 weeks gone, I afraid how they will deal with things that are hard to solve...
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  • PappyPlayPappyPlay Posts: 293Approved Member Intermediate
    I see that Papaya has introduced a "secondary level" for getting into the Forums. I hope this will be effective in stopping the DDoS nonsense.  I see, even as I post this, one of them has "slipped" past the "defense".  But these "one of" attempts are tolerable....but still annoying.
  • CynthiaCK1CynthiaCK1 Posts: 2Approved Member Beginner
    edited August 2016
    It hasn't stopped it in the game -.-    I have disconnected from 5 out of 5 infinite battle 2 dgs - 2 out of 2 horror honeymoon dgs.  And countless other DC's while trying to do Master DG runs with guild mates.
  • RhaellasRhaellas Posts: 96Approved Member Beginner
    edited August 2016
    Disconnected from server and disconnected when changing channels (unable to connect to server message)  approximately 15 times today alone.

    Wasted runes, wasted Horror Honeymoon tickets, because of DC for both. Every single time I entered.

    @Papayaplay, you should NOT be allowed to sell anything, until you fix the servers so that players can actually USE the tickets and things they buy WITHOUT DISCONNECTING WHILE TRYING TO USE THEM!

    It really sux to try to save the last of your runes (having lost the ones you had disconnecting and spending MORE time re logging in than actually getting to be able to play).  Much less the tickets you buy to use them with.  And spending over 1 year and 1/2 to get to 85% of your 194 to 195.  And getting STUCK there, because you spend MORE time getting DC'd and RELOGGING in than actually getting to play.

    I will send in a ticket, in hope that your company has some kind of CONSCIENCE as to not RIP people off of ticket and rune items that they had, and could not use because of the server instability you cannot seem to fix.  Costing players time and money.  And in the case of non shop players, THEIR TIME IS JUST AS VALUABLE!


    PappyPlay
  • RhaellasRhaellas Posts: 96Approved Member Beginner
    edited August 2016
    Just logged back in btw and got disconnected again. Was within 2 minutes of logging in game.   And apparently it hasn't stopped on the forums either. Stop the dang bot spammers on the forum and in game also please!! omg.
  • h2obrrh2obrr Posts: 290Approved Member Intermediate
    @Rhaellas

    Same here... taking a break until they fix atleast the login/dcs
    PappyPlay
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  • PappyPlayPappyPlay Posts: 293Approved Member Intermediate
    I've resolved to only attempt a login after Maintenance cycles.  And I've decided not to "play any games" with attempts to log in.  A login either works, or it doesn't work...I'm tired of messing with different ideas on my end.  This is a Papaya problem, so I can wait until they resolve it, and not waste any more of my time.  Logins should be as reliable as they were with Nexon, w/o unreasonable disconnects.  And this will be the way it will go again once Papaya finally [hopefully] gets there sheet together.

    I haven't been able to get into the game since the transfer (unless you count a short period where I was quickly dc'd).  And it's extremely disappointing...I had such high hopes for really getting into the game on a deeper level of understanding.  I'd even set myself up to get into a different guild that was starting "fresh".  So much for those hopes and dreams.  Ugh!

    If it wasn't for the videos posted by Moser on a different thread, I'd have no idea of changes in the game.  I guess some could call this "playing vicariously". lol!  But that's all I've got for now (aside from other games that I'm trying out).
  • nacromoonnacromoon Posts: 40Approved Member Beginner
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  • alokenkenbgalokenkenbg Posts: 6Approved Member Beginner

    When you will fix the Cash shop?

    And when will put 18% in?

    Thanks.

  • SojuPayToLoseSojuPayToLose Posts: 240Approved Member Trainee
    Take a break ladies and @ ppl qq about p2w game lol welcome to online game if you think dekaron is only p2w game then go try any other online game or even app game from your mobile devices. Its time to grow up to real world to all dreamers.
  • alokenkenbgalokenkenbg Posts: 6Approved Member Beginner

    SojuPayToLose  I dont know about "any other" online game.

    But i know about Dota 2 for example which is online game and is not pay to win.

    I am sure there is more online games that is not pay to win.


    Something simple as tradable DShop items will rice papaya win money and help game to do not be pay to win. Hope you get that part my english isnt good...


    Hope papaya will listen to players and will give DShop items acces to all players.

    Why in Dekaron Korea this is posible but not here?

  • trac3rtrac3r Posts: 7Approved Member Beginner
    @alokenkenbg
    You do know that Dota 2 is an entire different ballgame right? it is a moba and this is a mmorpg - very different. 

    This is, btw not me saying that mmorpg's is NOT p2w, as they all generally are, some to bigger extend than others :)
  • PappyPlayPappyPlay Posts: 293Approved Member Intermediate
    I don't know the game name (or even if the one I'm thinking of is a MMORPG), but a friend plays a PvE game where the only things you can buy are  just to make the game a little simpler, and NOT to make certain players powerhouses.

    (It might be Guild Wars or Diablo....not sure, but I'll find out.)  But my point is twofold.  First, there ARE other games that don't "fleece" players by making them P2W.  Second, if you have to "buy your way" to the top as a player, are you really all that good??(By this I mean there ARE some Dekaron players who are damn good WITHOUT buying into all the D-Shop stuff.)

    The way the other games "make a living" is by having loyal players who realize it costs money to have these games running and supported.  So those players buy stuff out of appreciation of this, sort of like "tipping the waiter".  But ITEMS FOR SALE do NOT give any player extra STRENGTH advantages, just conveniences or cosmetics...like larger inventory stashes, transport perks or sharp costumes.
  • trac3rtrac3r Posts: 7Approved Member Beginner
    @PappyPlay
    Btw Larger Inventory stashes, I as well conciders p2w, due to the extra storage you can have for X item, so you could farm less in the long run and sell more and thereby buy items from player shops :) and transport perks... that is almost one the definition of p2w due to the time saved by either running, teleporting by paying x, in all saves times and as such gets you faster a head of non paying players. 

    So there really is no means to avoid the concept of pay 2 win in total, all you can do is make it as transparent and non game breaking - which of the ones you mentioned would be the bigger inventory
  • PappyPlayPappyPlay Posts: 293Approved Member Intermediate
    @Trac3r Thank you for your reply.  I was trying to differentiate "player strength" versus "player convenience" items for purchase with D-Shop.  

    Presently, to be "kick ass" in this game, you have to pay some BIG BUCKS. In my opinion, if Papaya really wants this game to be a huge marketable success, they need take away the game strategy of requiring D-Shop Only (ie. binded) items to be necessary to achieve ultimate (relative) game strength.  Instead what needs to happen is that all strategic items be made available through farming or open-shop (ie. non-binded) trading.  And for "the lame", sure, you could still buy "instant OP" stuff through D-Shop (by spending "Daddy's money"...lol!).  BUT those items should ultimately be tradeable....not binded.

    To make a game "fair" from a purely fight-versus-fight point of view, then all opponents should have equal ways of acquiring all components for equipping, gearing and accessorizing their players.  This means either farming or the ability to buy (ie. through the game economy) whatever items are necessary.  

    If the only players who can win because they can afford to "super-equip" their characters with elitist purchases, then it is no longer "winning due to competency" but "winning due to wealth".  Frankly, this is NOT the Dekaron I hope Papaya chooses to promote.

    The choice - monetary game support by many with small purchases OR game support by a few extremely large [and elitist game class rendering] purchases.
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  • murathan42murathan42 Posts: 8Approved Member Beginner
    ı can not enter  game  why? how many hours  later we ill enter game? pls  give me a answer 
  • PappyPlayPappyPlay Posts: 293Approved Member Intermediate
    @murathan42, many (like myself) have been waiting for about 8 weeks now to get into the game.  I wouldn't hold your breath.
  • SuperMan25SuperMan25 Posts: 113Approved Member Trainee
    Did you guys ever try logging in on a different computer and see if your accounts work? It seems like there's more people were able to log in compared before.
  • PappyPlayPappyPlay Posts: 293Approved Member Intermediate
    edited August 2016
    The announcement relative to this weeks Maintenance says that the servers are now working and stable.  To which I say "Bullcrap!!"  I still can't login past character selection without getting kicked back to the login screen.  Should we submit new tickets if we're still having problems??

    Also, I tried the "trick" suggested by another player...of launching the game twice and try logging in from the 2nd launcher.  Didn't work for me.

    Anyone else still having login problems??
  • itchieitchie Posts: 6Approved Member Beginner
    Meanwhile, please enjoy the 200% exp/item drop (2.5x rates on the DK server) for this weekend and look forward to more information soon!

    starting 2 hate this game
  • NZX005NZX005 Posts: 135Approved Member Trainee
    x2 xp and drops while enjoying a "not enough play time" and "incorrect ID" at the same time. EPIC FAIL!!!

    If some of you re currently logged in make sure not to DC or you won't be able to get back in the game LOL.
    Aizenx
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