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jerrechanar1
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There isnt enough actual dil floating around. A new player starting from lvl1-170 grinding and npcing items won't even break 100m. Think about this.... We need to increase the value of NPC items, and dil drop rates/overall % of dil dropped by field mobs. By at least 500%. I'd also ask for a stimulus daily/playtime reward event. No monstrous or crazy amounts,simply 10k-100k rewards. It would probably add 1m dil per player participating a day.
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So dont Accuse People For something You cant get.
There are plenty of ways to gain dills, first and for most, you need a 'high' level. 175+
Find some1 to go into scared claw and leech all argates (if agreeable by players you are grinding with)
You can either + items yourself (with help of premium items such as holy water, blacksmith talismens, or not all at for a higher profit margin - which i dont really reccomend but it can be done)
Or you can sell said argates. In one farming session from claw Ive made jus shy of 1b from silver argates alone. How ever I prefer to use them myself, cos im a risk-taker *eggplantemoji*
There are literally hundreds of ways of making dill in this game, as previously mention, fortifying low level soul stones into 250 SS, grind Duex solo, A runs (crespo treasure before you ib generation talk ish).
140 solo dng can drop up to +8 145 weapons and 150 armors from plain to DN, from mixed stats to 'perfect stats'
Tower S rank - Neo Duex can drop MC1.
Elohm party dng - tear of dragon (from rubisin, dream powder required and sealing powder)
Making items like Dragonic Lachrymae and sealing fetch a pretty penny.
Karons fire pot drops step 2 skills.
Sacred claw, ruins of baz/rudene drop step 3 books.
Umbar PARTY dng can drop TF weapons.
Nest of Cherubim can drop spell plume, signet of chaos.
Premium Dngs: Horror/Honeymoon drops all illipia parts, lunacy weapon box, 9% gems, 8% gems/8% gems, wedding bracelets, wedding belts.
Grinding Aquarius map drops 15x +7 armors and narukes which can be turned into Daes Arie (with ring of jebeno from exchanging 300 magic stone pieces) and some sealing powder.
Then there's learning prices to effectively merchant (buy low/sell high) only thing required is some base dill and a shedload of patiences to deal with players lowballing offers and general idiots (which this game has a suprising amount of)
Thats all I can be f**ked to type, try em out. Making money is easy in this game.
And before its said, Im not fully geared, not full 9/10 (mostly tho, my lucks been great last few attempts)
Patiences is a virtue. Remeber that.
@ikra67065
If youre directing that msg at @patrialegion , I thoroughly agree. Ive seen players pop up out of no where with end game items/maxed out meisters without seeing them in any dngs. I strongly suspect the same. Its not about if someone can get it or not, its about the time elasped vs the time spent to get these items without seeing them. The game population is not so exspansive that you wont run into the same players regularly so you can feasibly see 99% of the population over the course of a month, let alone multiple months.
We need players, lots and lots of players so the market should have more sellers and buyers!
How to make money? Simple two steps:
1. Learn the game.
2. Be smart!
Ps. I remember one day few years a go i had like ~100.000dils. Got pissed off and went farming on map till i made money to enter Crespo C, made this dg till i got few Coppers and Silvers(i collected all the dils from boxes and gems so i could get a copper with 150k or less than entrance fee/agency copper price; sold the gems aswell). From there + agency (buy and resell argates, from argates to items) the next day i had made 1bil dils.
I really liked your post where you listed all possible ways to make money in this game and was excited at first so recieve a big THANK YOU.
Now, after reading it few times to consider my options, i saw not everything is so 'rainbowy' as it seems at first glance.
1st and foremost, I apologize for not finding quote button if there is one.
2nd: Im not saying your post is wrong, just probably not suitable for most.
Now, let me analyze it a bit more closely from my perspective, and probably many other players. Your statements will be highlighted, my comments are below yours.
fortifying low level soul stones into 250 SS, grind Duex solo, A runs (crespo treasure before you ib generation talk ish).
This is hell of a slow process, considering you can get 1-2 runs per day if you're not a Dshop user(1 daily run + 1 camo from Tower daily quest) but unlike many others still doable.
140 solo dng can drop up to +8 145 weapons and 150 armors from plain to DN, from mixed stats to 'perfect stats'
Personally, I've done hundreds of deux, 140 and favnil runs, got 1-2 decent items from it, both worth not more than 500mil combined. Some people might get lucky but dont look to get rich here.
Tower S rank - Neo Duex can drop MC1.
This drop is pretty rare and you have to be decently geared already to do it with only 1-2 more friends who also gotta be WILLING to let you take the drop otherwise already slim chances decrease even further (just imagine a party of 5-7 players with pt set to Random chasing such rare drop).
Elohm party dng - tear of dragon (from rubisin, dream powder required and sealing powder)
Low chance in itself, needs friendly pt that wont fight for drop, also requires Dshop.
Making items like Dragonic Lachrymae and sealing fetch a pretty penny.
You gotta be geared AF to farm brigans and you still need to use Dshop in the end.
Karons fire pot drops step 2 skills.
From above: You gotta be geared AF to farm this dg.
Sacred claw, ruins of baz/rudene drop step 3 books.
You gotta be geared AF to farm this + you need friendly team to let you take drops.
Umbar PARTY dng can drop TF weapons.
I checked this with many people and it is probably wrong. Umbar party dg drops only disassembly hammers, Umbar weap box drops from random Golden Crates in Deadlands and is also rare AF.
Nest of Cherubim can drop spell plume, signet of chaos.
This is expedition, hence nobody does it anymore...not even in prime time of Dekaron with much more folks in the game have expeditions been executed often afaik. But lets say you do it: drop is the rarest in game I think and kracions which are improved versions of plume sell for what, 1.5b now? ...
Premium
Dngs: Horror/Honeymoon drops all illipia parts, lunacy weapon box, 9%
gems, 8% gems/8% gems, wedding bracelets, wedding belts.
Again, pretty good gear required to farm these dungeons, especially HorrorHM.
Grinding
Aquarius map drops 15x +7 armors and narukes which can be turned into
Daes Arie (with ring of jebeno from exchanging 300 magic stone pieces)
and some sealing powder.
Requires Dshop after crazily slow process.
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Main problems I find here are:
1) One needs very, very expensive gear to begin with to farm dungeons for endgame gear!? (sort of a vicious circle: gear for farm, farm for gear, not sure how that should work when, as stated before, you get to 170 with maybe 100mil).This presumes player doesnt have "main" char to boost another acc. I would like to stress here that highest people here NEED noobs as much as counterintuitive that might seem. There is no point maxing ur char gear and level-wise if you got no1 to play with. And this game likes to make people quit...Also less money for you Papaya, just sth to think about!
2) You have to be Dshop user which many aren't willing to be for one reason or another (this can also be sort of an answer to "is this p2w game" thread)
3) some require friendly members which will let you take drops which is pretty unlikely in such competitive game
Now for the summary:
This post wasn't made to bash on you in any way, I myself was so happy to find it until I realized many of those ways to make money,if not all of them, aren't available to me.
If I made any mistakes, feel free to correct me. In fact I would like to find at least some stuff I can do besides buying something cheap and trying to sell for more.
Meh dont sweat the quote function [or lack there of] I didn't take it a bash, just your opinion.
1) You dont necessarily need high end gear to farm. Its mainly in your mob tolerence, the higher the better. With this halloween event bringing back the upgrade for the halloween ring tier 5 is plenty (15% mob tolerence) [Ideally youll have squama for 12%, 2x immos for 20%, t5 hallow for 15 giving u a total of 47%, u can get t1 s2 primmo novus boosting you by 4% mob tol, giving u 52% mob tol] also befriend an AK for bounce defence which will send your mob tolerence over 100% providing you have 2x immortal jade bracelets.So depending on your luck and lvl, u could hit up mitera dng[ karons fire pot] and get ina chance for step2 skills. Or if youre 175+ Go to sacred claw, and farm argates. It's a slow process but you can easily get 500m in silvers alone in a short amount of time and some parts needed for perpetuus itself.
2) As a Dshop user myself (mainly ammys to boost drop rate, or the occassional random box so I can live in HHM) it doesnt really put you ahead of the rest by too much just youll get there faster. (Asides from the wukong costume)
3) You'd actually be pretty suprised how helpful alot of players are. I certainly was when I eventually lvld up to join the big boys but I'll cite 3 people in particular who IMO are amungst some of the most helpful players [if youre on their good side] Chivalric, Torsken and ThunderB1tch. These 3 guys have been instrumental towards my progress in this game. I'm not saying they will help you, but they certainly helped me. Also, since I now know your IGN I can help you with some grinding.
As far as Baz/Rudene you dont need insane gear to farm these 2 dngs inparticular, they only go to lowering your time spent per dng.
As far as SS fortifying, You can invest dills to buy a camo pack from players who do purchase these as a way of boosting dills, 4-500m for 50 camos, youll only need 1 or 2 +8 drops from 140 solo to cover the cost of it. And not to mention the SS should b used only as a slow way of getting dills, you should have another method as well.
As far as eveything else you mentioned, you are 100% correct. I wouldnt class this game as purely p2w. But it definitely helps. ShadowAloken is a player who has proved to be top tier, you dont need to spent 1000s in Dshop to compete.
As with most things it requires patients, dedication and a touch of luck.