[Explanation] How does the Character Stats Work?

DragonForceWRDragonForceWR Posts: 520Member Intermediate
edited May 2017 English
[at First im from Germany so my english might be not the best]

Hey Guys
Because of recent
disagreements about the Character Statistics
(Body Defense for Example)
I decided to explain it for the Community.


HOW DOES THE CHARACTER STATS IMPROVES YOUR CHARACTER?


Body Defense [For Example 10%]:
Most of the Players guess that this Stat reduces the Damage you will get per hit
like 10% Less Damage - But thats wrong.

The Body Defense
Stat describes the chance to avoid Damage.
If you got 10% Body Defense, 10 out of 100 Bullet (because its 10% of 100%) wont deal Damage to you (in the Best Case / Luck)
Video about it:



HeadShot Defense [For Example 5%]:
Same Like the Body Defense most of the Players guess that this Stat reduces the Damage you will get per hit like 5% Less Damage - But thats wrong.

The HeadShot Defense Stat describes the chance to avoid Damage / 1 Hit Kill.
If you got 5% Headshot Defense, 5 out of 100 Bullet (because its 5% of 100%) wont deal Damage to you (in the Best Case / Luck) - Noticable by a Bell Sound.



Fall Damage Reduction [For Example 10%]:
Most of the Players guess that this Stat will reduce your Damage like this way:
If you would get 10% Fall Damage you wont get the Damage (because 10% reduction)

- Buts thats of course: Wrong.

The Fall Damage Reduction Stats describes the Value how much Damage you will get less. For Example: You get 50% Fall Damage without the Reduction - You will get 45% Damage with 10% Fall Damage Reduction (because 10% of 50 is 5)
Video about it:



Weight Reduction [For Example 10%]:

Most of the Players guess that this value tells you how much weight you will lose like this way: 10% = -10 weight - And indeed, thats wrong too...

The Weight Reduction Value tells you how much weight you will Lose, Based on the Weapon / Item you use. If a Gun got 50 Weight you will lose 5. Because 10% of 50 is 5. Your new weight will be 45.



Accuracy [For Example 10%]:
Most of the Players guess that this Value works like this:
A Weapon got 40 Accuracy + 10 Accuracy by Character Stats.


The Accuracy value tells you how much Accuracy your Weapon will gain ( Based on the Weapons Stats)
I think after you've read the Informations above you will be able to tell the
Right answer.
YES YOUR RIGHT! Its 40 Accuracy + 4 Accuracy because 10% of 40 is 4.
So your Weapon got now 44% instead of 50% like everyone else expected.



Item Weight [For Example 10%]:

This is a Funny thing because it Works Simular to the Weight Reduction.
BUT it wont Reduce your Character Weight. This stat is only for Grenades and every other Item you are able to throw on the ground or towards your Enemy.
If your Item loses Weight it will fly much further. And thats it.



SP usage Reduction [For Example 10%]:

This Value tells you how much less SP you will lose while running, jumping etc.
It doesnt add 10% SP like a SP UP would.
I wasnt able to test how it works together with the SP UP Item. In the Normal case it would use the Basic SP Value (100). I dont know if it will use the Value with SP UP Items if you got them (115).



I hope this post will me moved to the Right Section after they are Opened / available.

Regards DragonForce :)

PonuryKhongenStaphWarlinkinxeroN0HCH0Druida
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Comments

  • KhongenKhongen Posts: 20Member Beginner
    edited May 2017
    Someone should sticky this under a subchannel called "Tips and Tricks" or alike as you mention yourself.
    Good job. :)
    DragonForceWRDruida
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  • DragonForceWRDragonForceWR Posts: 520Member Intermediate
    No Problem :)
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  • PonuryPonury Posts: 219Member Trainee
    edited May 2017
    There will be Tips and Tricks section so no worry about that. Sticking it maybe not, but overall it's very good explenation :)
    DragonForceWR
    Playing War Rock since 04/2007
  • Mrterr0rMrterr0r Posts: 244Member Trainee
    edited May 2017
    You can have all this for £60 a year.

    Be the best, P2W

    Edit, that is for 1 class and one character. 

    DragonForceWR
    Beta then 2007-2020
  • DragonForceWRDragonForceWR Posts: 520Member Intermediate
    edited May 2017
    @Mrterr0r

    Or you do it that way:
    Cry about every Player with Skins / Prem Weapons.
    I guess you take this game way to serious. As i explained, the Skins arent as OP
    as you are trying to tell everyone. The Guns wont get Faster or Increases their Damage.
    Players with 3x OP Guns Ruin this Game. Not Players with "Skins" which gives them a Chance (all based on Luck) to get less Damage or run 1 meter further.

    Use 3x mp7a1, xm8, Famas, F2000, Mk1sDE, Vector, ScarH/ScarL etc are the Reason. (+ they use all these Guns additional to the Skins). THATS no Skill and Game Breaking.
    Druida
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  • Mrterr0rMrterr0r Posts: 244Member Trainee
    The skins are just one layer of an overpowered, protected, pay to win player. 

    Now add on 

    Fast reload 
    Fast recharge 
    Med stick 
    Stamina stick
    bandage << sure there are players who have not bleed out in years < years!!

    Its annoying i shoot you (and others) Hit you, then speed off into cover, jab themselves, heal back to 100% then inject stamina and come back attacking me moving faster, reloading faster and just in over all doing everything faster or easier because of the outlay in the item shop.

    I run for like 3-5 secs? thats me done after this, i cannot roll, cannot bounce, cannot jump. And have to wait for the bar to recharge. Then come up against a P2W hero who is for ever running, rolling, bouncing, jumping around the map. Some people just never stop no matter where on the battlefield you meet them, Ive watched many have a confrontation with another play, run over to finish them but there still jacked up moving at 100% 

    Skill in this game is a case of IVE spent more then you! All the above was game breaking, but yet you have it all equipped and all permanent :)) 



    DragonForceWRVoltadDruida
    Beta then 2007-2020
  • DragonForceWRDragonForceWR Posts: 520Member Intermediate
    as i already told you 15% SP UP means 1.5 Bars more SP. Thats not even a Single Jump more.
    Stamina Stick is 2x Use you cant reload it @ Ammo Station -> wait for Death. Stamina recovery is still the Same.

    If you like to im gonna play like 99% of the Community and use everything Possible maybe you will get the difference :) Between Skins and fair guns and Skins + OP GUns like Famas / xm8 or mk1sDE :)
    Druida
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  • Mrterr0rMrterr0r Posts: 244Member Trainee
    Or you could bring your F2P account and i create one and we can live stream the outcome :P :) ;)
    VoltadDruida
    Beta then 2007-2020
  • DragonForceWRDragonForceWR Posts: 520Member Intermediate
    Move to Tips & Tricks pls...
    Druida
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  • itzyaasinitzyaasin Posts: 28Member Beginner
    Very nice information about the stats, i think they should remove all characters they are just too overpowered..
    N0HCH0Druida
    Peaced
  • N0HCH0N0HCH0 Posts: 390Member Trainee
    Mrterr0r

    Fast reload 
    Fast recharge 
    Med stick 
    Stamina stick
    bandage 

    You do not want to spend money on the game. 
    We spend money. 
    Why blame us for this? 
    There are browser games where you do not need to spend money. 
    You do not have to buy a good computer. 
    You do not need fast internet.

    It would be fair if the admins to the players who lost purchased skins compensated for example 1 by the permanent from  new LUCKY BREAK BOX.

    Let the players choose any one of the 4 permanent weapons.
    Druida
  • DragonForceWRDragonForceWR Posts: 520Member Intermediate
    Some Players already got all of these 4. So its senseless and not fair.  @N0HCH0
    Druida
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  • NuffiiiNuffiii Posts: 202Member Trainee
    A compensation? For what? You agreed to the "Terms of Service" by joining Papaya and those "ToS" clearly state that they are free to change any game content whenever they like and that they do not have to inform us. Nothing else happend with the skins and that is 100% ok.

    What's not ok is that they justify that move by refering to a plan to "balance the game" while they simply replace already paid for bonuses with new ones that have to be bought every 30 day anew. That is morally disgusting since the "balancing" obviously is a lie and we, the players, are taken for fools.
    Druida
  • N0HCH0N0HCH0 Posts: 390Member Trainee



    All the same it will be fair if the admins compensate. 

    I think everyone will be happy. 

    Otherwise it turns  who paid is to blame.
    Druida
  • N0HCH0N0HCH0 Posts: 390Member Trainee
    NUFFIII

    Why balance in the game do at the expense paid skins? 

    It's more fair to give out these skins for free to everyone.

    The easiest way to dispose of other people's property. 

    Are you ready to remove at least one permanent purchased for money?
  • N0HCH0N0HCH0 Posts: 390Member Trainee

    Why do not GM admins comment? 

    We players can not force the admins to make a decision but ignoring the problem is not a solution.

    I understand that it's easier to ban on the forum a few people and all will be silent. 

    But is this fair?
  • Mrterr0rMrterr0r Posts: 244Member Trainee
    @nohcho

    Your just salty they took away your paid for help! Get off easy mode and stop paying a game for protection. I understand at 0.9 you already struggle and this is the reason for giving money to the mafia (papaya) for protection against better skilled opponents. 

    P2W is a flawed outlook, why should i have to pay to play an online game? And if i choose not to play then why should i be crushed by some low skill who has spent 1000s? 
    Beta then 2007-2020
  • N0HCH0N0HCH0 Posts: 390Member Trainee
    mrterror

    Because we bought legally in item shop  skins. 

    You agreed to play in a game where there is a store with these skins. 

    Have you seen them in Nexon ITHEMSHOP PAPAYA ITHEMSHOP ??? 

    Tomorrow, maybe  another items from itemshop  to someone who does not spend money do not like.

    Why is it the one who pays for this game is to blame?
  • NuffiiiNuffiii Posts: 202Member Trainee
    I do not give a f**k about those skins being nerfed. I bought them because i liked to looks. The bonus stats were just a nice bonus. That's why my sniper for example uses the ghillie-suite not the Lean-charakter which has much better stats. But camouflaged snipers... That's cool.

    What i do not like is a publisher trying to make a fool out of myself.
    If those stats are removed for balancing reasons: Fine
    If those stats are removed for balancing reasons while a new pay per month bonus stats system is implemented: Not fine

    I do not be flat-out lied to.

    Giving that item to everbody for free? There would be countless players complaining that others got something for free while they paid for it. This would lead to the idea of "deserving" a compensation even though those are ruled out by the ToS.

    Removing a permanent item? That's polemic. My skins were strapped of their stats too. Thus i experienced the same "loss" you did. The difference: I am fine with removing those bonus stats and i understand what i agreed to when i accepted Papaya's Terms of Service. All i am not willing to accept is being taken for an idiot when being told that those stats were removed to balance the game while a new pay every month bonus system is implemented. Thus replacing one advantage that does not generates any further income by another one that generates it every month.

    That is anything else but not balancing the game and thus an obvious lie.
    Muse01N0HCH0Voltad
  • N0HCH0N0HCH0 Posts: 390Member Trainee
    dragonforce

    Players love you very much. 

    Thank you for provocative topic and for deleted skins .
  • distortiondistortion Posts: 120Member Trainee
    Character stats have been removed
  • VoltadVoltad Posts: 15Member Beginner
    MrTerr0r said everything here. I remember when the med stick came out and how much I felt overpower and unfair this is. The other items are P2W as well, every premium player knows they must buy it for as long as possible because they will have an advantage, no matter how small.
    The body defenses are the same, it gives an advantage on close to 1 in 10 rounds in CQC, which can make the diference. I wouldn't mind that much if it gave only 1% because that would be kinda funny and clutch.
    This is the reason there must be a mode or rooms where we can play without any benefits and/or esl guns.
    The skins are just one layer of an overpowered, protected, pay to win player. 

    Now add on 

    Fast reload 
    Fast recharge 
    Med stick 
    Stamina stick
    bandage << sure there are players who have not bleed out in years < years!!

    Its annoying i shoot you (and others) Hit you, then speed off into cover, jab themselves, heal back to 100% then inject stamina and come back attacking me moving faster, reloading faster and just in over all doing everything faster or easier because of the outlay in the item shop.

    I run for like 3-5 secs? thats me done after this, i cannot roll, cannot bounce, cannot jump. And have to wait for the bar to recharge. Then come up against a P2W hero who is for ever running, rolling, bouncing, jumping around the map. Some people just never stop no matter where on the battlefield you meet them, Ive watched many have a confrontation with another play, run over to finish them but there still jacked up moving at 100% 

    Skill in this game is a case of IVE spent more then you! All the above was game breaking, but yet you have it all equipped and all permanent :)) 
  • DragonForceWRDragonForceWR Posts: 520Member Intermediate
    #Push
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  • DruidaDruida Posts: 387Member Trainee
    Skin give u around half size on assault, half size mean half as a big target, double hard to hit it :)

    On skined gamer 1 hit like 0,5-2 damage on me 6-8/ amo or 1 amo instant kill on head even with pistols.
    I die from 1 bazuka hit and need 2 full hit with rpg to kill sb...

    I die from 3 landmine kill with 4-5....
    My hummer die from 2 rpg i kill it with 4 hit, my viesel die from 2, and i am so suprised if i can kill it with 2 it happend me 3-4 times max and i was so suprised "WTF IS HAPPENING????"
    For me need 6 on k1a1 but my die from 3 hit

    AW50 i need 2 on head to take sb down some time max klip cause enemy get 3 head def in a line, but a legshot take me down :)
  • DragonForceWRDragonForceWR Posts: 520Member Intermediate
    - PZF_03 cant 1 Hit a Player.
    - RPG does always 1 Hit on Body. If its not a Direkt Hit - No Kill.
    - 3 Landmines kills every Tank. (Truck takes 4)
    - I dont know how many RPGs you need to Destroy a Car or Viesel since i mostly use QLB & CarlGustav
    - I cant tell you how many RPG's you need to Destroy a K1A1 Tank at Ohara for example. But if you got no Fast Reload and the Enemy got that AutoRepair Tactical Gear its sure that u need more hits than others.

    If a Enemy has 3 HS Defense in a Row its pure Luck. I mean comon. If you got 5% deff its nearly impossible to get 3x a HS defense in a row. Thats why i ask you - Was there realy 3x that HS Defense Sound yes ? Or was ur Aim just bad.
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