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Duex Marble Pet / Dragon Emblem % Rate...WTF

DeathQueenyDeathQueeny Posts: 52Approved Member Beginner
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I really wanna know if any1 of u guys got Dragon Emblem or Duex Marble pet since we got A19...i feel like these 2 things are bugged/ papaya reduced the success rate...


i opened over 600 eggs and like 300 Plat Boxes so far(A19) and didnt get any of those, even not a Normal duex marble pet..


1 pet that really easy to get now is Sylphid ( every 8-10 eggs u get 1) which make me feel that we have the same % chance like in KR server, but not the same stats (sylphid in kr is really crap pet)..

Artifade for example was much easier to get in a18 but now rare af (In KR its 5% pkpvp exactly like duex)




anyway if u got duex marble pet / dragon emblem please let us know..

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  • YerOldmanisHereYerOldmanisHere Posts: 174Member Trainee
    Well I got lucky and looted a Duex Marble Pet box after killing Duex himself at Phyton/Doommaze DG recently....I opened it already and since it is trade-able I wonder how much will I get if I sell it.

    ..anyone know? Is it even worth selling?

    Have a taste of my Kameha-meha boom boom boom.,
    Black Wizard
  • NZX005NZX005 Posts: 135Approved Member Trainee

    That's just a normal Duex Marble pet which sells for 700-900m. What DeathQueeny is talking about is combining pets to produce a (U) Duex marble pet.
  • YerOldmanisHereYerOldmanisHere Posts: 174Member Trainee
    ooooow..NZX005 Thanks man!

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    yea, that's what I suspect. Oh well I never anyway interest myself in obtaining such pet since I know that it's another one of their RNG shit.


    Have a taste of my Kameha-meha boom boom boom.,
    Black Wizard
  • NIskotraderNIskotrader Posts: 18Approved Member Beginner
    Hey,

    After 8 years dekaron more than 2k pet eggs still got nothing.

    I am sure the combine pet works diff its not about luck , 

    Its just 1 big scamm of papaya  and all companys they just taking our $ / Time.

    if gms keep telling u its low rate to get it so they bs and dont try to send ticket that wont help.








  • DeathQueenyDeathQueeny Posts: 52Approved Member Beginner
    edited July 2017
    i think we can forget about duex marble pet man...

    i dont even expect to get it.. i open eggs to get mordresh pet but didnt get 1 yet...

    and yeah they scamm only bcuz they dont tell us the % chance for all these eggs/random boxes 







  • zestiazestia Posts: 55Approved Member Beginner
    i got deux marble pet yesterday. but i cant use it cause i have max pk res on my dk HAHAHA. gotta try for morfresh now =/
  • KleptoManiaKleptoMania Posts: 155Member Trainee
    Lol! I guess im lucky enough to get them on 2 of my characters. But damn i combined about 5k eggs trying to get them on my other 2 characters but no such luck anymore. I think i ran out xD. If only papaya aren't so greedy and unbind Dragon emblems it would be so much better.
  • DeathQueenyDeathQueeny Posts: 52Approved Member Beginner
    edited July 2017
    many ppl say they got duex many times while others say they opened thousands of eggs and got nothing...(i guess im on the black side)

    anyway nice to hear that any1 got duex...

    still wondering about dragon emblem- im pretty sure its bugged
  • NIskotraderNIskotrader Posts: 18Approved Member Beginner
    some ppls getting deux after 10-20 eggs,

    I never asked to get deux after 20  and not after 100, but u fking with me 2k eggs?
    somthig wrong here man they cant bs me,
    100% scamm.
  • hovnocucakhovnocucak Posts: 21Member Beginner
    all this random stuff is pure scamm obviously, otherwise they would have told you rates, or change them from 0,002% to lets say 1% at least 
  • YerOldmanisHereYerOldmanisHere Posts: 174Member Trainee
    Since Papaya nor the Devs doesn't give a shit...

    I just want to share:


    DeathQueeny

    Have a taste of my Kameha-meha boom boom boom.,
    Black Wizard
  • renauulrenauul Posts: 7Member Beginner
    Imagine possibility, that they changed to 0% chance obtaining deux on certaint accs so they can milk u forever :) JUST SAYING
  • zestiazestia Posts: 55Approved Member Beginner
    Please let me know if any of you got a dragon emblem in the past 4-5 weeks. I'm about to open 1000+ platinum boxes. I need to know if i should wait until emblem isn't bugged.
  • RazeeerRazeeer Posts: 212Approved Member Trainee
    edited July 2017
    Well I found this article on gacha games (you know, those stupid games, where you need to buy boxes with random chances of getting items/heroes etc, basically games revolving around rng) "The model was declared illegal by Japan's Consumer Affairs Agency in May 2012, citing the Law for Preventing Unjustifiable Extras or Unexpected Benefit and Misleading Representation (不当景品類及び不当表示防止法),[2] after alleged investigation on the model's proposed resemblance to gambling". Hopefully, one day, all this rng bs will be declared illegal. I also read somewhere (can't remember where though) that in asia they made it mandatory for all game companies to show the exact rates of getting a certain item, from random boxes. Although there's no actual evidence of papaya doing so, I'm 100% sure this is how things work, regardless if its a pet egg, gold box, plat box or whatever, when they add a new, useful item in game, and they make it available only via RNG boxes, in the first week or two, the chances are decent, say 1% for the best item (for example flag of war), after that they nerf the rate of getting that item, to the point where is virtually impossible to get that item. Otherwise I can't explain why some players got 3-4 flag of war wings, in like their first 200 packs, at first, and after that, I've read on the forums that there have been players (not just 1 player) who opened crazy amounts of boxes (between 500-1000 +) and got maybe 2 or 3 mech wings(but no flag of war) and that's about it. So yeah, for anyone asking if its worth getting pet eggs, or buying keys right now, I'd say NO, stay away from that bs, if you really wanna have a small, but real chance, at getting an item that way, open those eggs/boxes in the first week since the new items were added, after that just stay away (unless ofc, you need unique ray pets, or 3 day lachy necklaces) 
  • RazeeerRazeeer Posts: 212Approved Member Trainee
    I'm pretty sure that what papaya is doing, is illegal, however due to the lack of any evidence, there isn't much that can be done, from the legal standpoint, however best thing one can do right now, is to raise awareness, and inform other players to stay away from anything that's RNG right now, such as gold/plat boxes, pet eggs, etc.
  • h2obrrh2obrr Posts: 290Approved Member Intermediate
    A graphic showing the chance of NOT getting a (u)deux marble given the # of eggs you open.

    anything lower than 100 is pretty useless...
     1k eggs you have about 40% chance of NOT gettin it.
    over 10k+ eggs you are almost sure to get one.

    GL, and have fun =)

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  • kotorlivekotorlive Posts: 16Approved Member Beginner
    edited July 2017
    Deathqueeny is just nub! got mine like in10 tries on my 149 bagi lol!!
    Was going for ilias pet too! GG nubcakes
  • zestiazestia Posts: 55Approved Member Beginner
    edited July 2017
    Just opened 999 platinum boxes... and got like nothing good.... but i got 8 unique pets.. and got Bat Cat (U) with a socket... and thats like the best pet right now.. so i didn't get completely fucked. You just gota get really unlucky at something.. then you get lucky at something else.... either that or emblem is bugged.... I got so unlucky man... anyways heres everything I got...

    List of everything i got from 999 Platinum boxes:
    42 30% talismans
    8 unique pets
    85 normal pet eggs
    1x yes ray
    3 blacksmith protectors
    8700 rankup coins + 18.3k rankup coins(from gold coins)
    53x 50% drop rate potions (had to npc like 30 more of these)
    29 step 3 boxes

    TOTAL DIL
    step 3 boxes : 14.5b @ 500m each
    rankups x27000: 10.8b
    blacksmith protectors : 1.5b
    1x yes ray : 2.5b

    also like ... 40 holy water 7 days... 1 year of flag of wars from golden boxes.. 1x perm flag of war...

    To be exact. i spent 105b on key packs... made about 80b back..... and got no dragon emblem. but i got a crap load of binding stuff & a Unique Bat cat which i consider 50-100b... because thats how much some people spend for it and still didn't get one.

    Overall i'm happy with the results.. could've been worse.... Also dragon emblem is definitely bugged.... I opened 400 keys before this.. so 1399 keys in total no dragon emblem.

    this shit should be illegal .... 1399 platinum boxes... even at 0.1% chance i should've got an emblem... 1399 x 0.1% is 139.9% chance... that means that its quite possible that emblem is under 0.1% chance.. or it's bugged.


  • NIskotraderNIskotrader Posts: 18Approved Member Beginner
    zestia

    after 999 plat boxes and still not dragon emblem and u happy from the results ?
    w8 for ur next 500 + plat boxes.


    that game 100% pure scamm.
  • DeathQueenyDeathQueeny Posts: 52Approved Member Beginner
    pretty sure Dragon Emblem is bugged...

    2 month and didnt see a single massage about any1 who got it...
  • zestiazestia Posts: 55Approved Member Beginner
    i'm happy because i got a crap load of pet eggs i saved 100b. on pet packs lol. I got UNIQUE BAT CAT socketed. 
  • h2obrrh2obrr Posts: 290Approved Member Intermediate
    edited July 2017
    @zestia
    this shit should be illegal .... 1399 platinum boxes... even at 0.1% chance i should've got an emblem... 1399 x 0.1% is 139.9% chance... that means that its quite possible that emblem is under 0.1% chance.. or it's bugged.

    I have bad news for you, this is not how probability works. Also 0.1% is too high for that.
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  • zestiazestia Posts: 55Approved Member Beginner
    oh shit we got a badass over here. same shit if i spend 1400 keys.. which is like $1200 + you should be able to get a dragon emblem. that shit should be illegal. some people have gambling problems. 
  • northeastazunortheastazu Posts: 222Approved Member Trainee
    Even if 0.1% is the suggested rate, you realise this is per box right?

    It doesn't increase exponentially if you open more than one box. Every time you open a box the rate is constant at 0.1%
  • DeathQueenyDeathQueeny Posts: 52Approved Member Beginner
    edited July 2017
    today i got mordresh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..........no socket...

    750 eggs for mordresh without  a socket, thank you so much...another useless pet





    DEKA=100% SCAMM 

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  • zestiazestia Posts: 55Approved Member Beginner
    gz on mordresh bro. i wouldve been sad if i got bat cat with no socket lol. glad i never have to buy dumb pet eggs again
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