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Getting +50 Emblem is not "Fairly Easy".

jrharbortjrharbort Posts: 54Approved Member Beginner
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So after dumping roughly a thousand additional circulation argates into the emblem to attempt upgrading to +50, I've found that upgrading past +35 is practically impossible. Granted, I haven't tried using Blacksmith's Talismans, and I'm unsure if they'd even work for upgrading this particular item. But even with the 5% bonus from Holy Water of Almighty, I just can't get the emblem past the +35 mark.

I believe that quote of "How to get it to +50 is fairly easy" on the website needs a citation, as it's definitely not easy.

TL;DR Don't bother upgrading the Circulation Emblem past +35.


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Comments

  • NZX005NZX005 Posts: 135Approved Member Trainee

    Well you see players have long been asking for a farmable emblem and everyone thought this is it but we're dead wrong. You still have to dump tons of talismans for it to go +50 so I guess we really are full pay to play now. +30-40 already feels equivalent trying to do a +7 on an armor without talis.
  • adgffgdsgadgffgdsg Posts: 9Approved Member Beginner
    where can you farm circulation argate only from death corridor and random box??
  • jrharbortjrharbort Posts: 54Approved Member Beginner
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    adgffgdsgadgffgdsg Pretty much, or buy from players. But no need to buy more than a few just to get yourself started.

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    NZX005NZX005Sounds like it, but this feels even harder honestly.


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  • h2obrrh2obrr Posts: 290Approved Member Intermediate
    You can get as many circulation argates you want for free with the random boxes, just need time.

    So besides it being hard to upgrade I see no point of complaining about it. Free emblem, with free mats to upgrade.
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  • zestiazestia Posts: 55Approved Member Beginner
    @jrharbort did you seriously "So after dumping roughly a thousand additional circulation argates"
    a thousand really? you didn't stop after 100 ? i realized pretty early that 35+ is as hard as +7-8. and 40-50 is like +9. 1000 tries is like 1-2b wasted on dil alone. You could've spent that money on 18% talis and made it.

    I've made two +50 emblems already and they are fairly easy. they cost 4-5b max to make. 50 18% talis required at most if unlucky. get a random crappy +7 item. (they sell for 1-10mil each) and fail it intentionally then go for emblem with 18% tali.
  • zestiazestia Posts: 55Approved Member Beginner
    it's like making +7-9 without talis 10 times in a row. so you definitely need talis.
  • jrharbortjrharbort Posts: 54Approved Member Beginner
    @zestia Yep, but like I said, I never tried using talismans since I didn't know if they worked or not for the emblems. +35 is the highest I was able to achieve without them. The stats are already quite a bit better than the default Meister Emblem, so I'm satisfied with that.


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  • MondiVGMondiVG Posts: 214Approved Member Trainee
    +41 is the highest I was then from +41 fail fail fail fail..........down to 25 that's where I said wasted my dill for nothing don't bother trying!
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  • kissvakondkissvakond Posts: 17Approved Member Beginner
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  • jrharbortjrharbort Posts: 54Approved Member Beginner
    Emblem rates, for those curious. It drops by 2% for every level until +26, but after that it only drops by 1% per level. Interestingly it seems they may implement an "Epic" version Emblem later.

    +1. 100%
    +2. 98%
    +3. 96%
    +4. 94%
    +5. 92%
    +6. 90%
    +7. 88%
    +8. 86%
    +9. 84%
    +10. 82%
    +11. 80%
    +12. 78%
    +13. 76%
    +14. 74%
    +15. 72%
    +16. 70%
    +17. 68%
    +18. 66%
    +19. 64%
    +20. 62%
    +21. 60%
    +22. 58%
    +23. 56%
    +24. 54%
    +25. 52%
    +26. 50%
    +27. 49%
    +28. 48%
    +29. 47%
    +30. 46%
    +31. 45%
    +32. 44%
    +33. 43%
    +34. 42%
    +35. 41%
    +36. 40%
    +37. 39%
    +38. 38%
    +39. 37%
    +40. 36%
    +41. 35%
    +42. 34%
    +43. 33%
    +44. 32%
    +45. 31%
    +46. 30%
    +47. 29%
    +48. 28%
    +49. 27%
    +50. 26%


    The joys now will last forever. 初音ミク道を先導します。


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  • klerzjeh2klerzjeh2 Posts: 20Member Beginner
    Thanks for the table but personally I find it hard to be true. I made my emblem to lv30 failing only 2-3x and this table suggests that success rate being only few % lower for next levels made me fail hard in the next 100+ tries. My max was around 35 after my success spree and later it was much more fail than +. Im at like 32 now
  • jrharbortjrharbort Posts: 54Approved Member Beginner
    @klerzjeh2 Trust me, I swear it feels harder than the table implies, too. But it's the official rates.


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  • klerzjeh2klerzjeh2 Posts: 20Member Beginner

    Well we already noticed papaya changed many things in respect to korean dekaron for the worse(seeds required for new gear, wr droprate, tongue droprate in sc to name a few). How can we be sure anything "official" from korean game applies here?

  • jrharbortjrharbort Posts: 54Approved Member Beginner
    I didn't get the info from the Korean server, it's the rates for this game.

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  • klerzjeh2klerzjeh2 Posts: 20Member Beginner

    Apologies then, i assumed you got the list by translating because information given to us is usually scarce. Well i might just give it one more go thanks to you. Cheers!

  • ShadowAlokenLVShadowAlokenLV Posts: 200Approved Member Trainee
    I wasted like 30 upgrade talis 18%, had them in stash for like more than 2 years so yea, but also nowdays pretty much usless anyways. So basically the best i could make was to +43 and then the fail fail fail to +18 and honestly im done with this crap emblem, it was anyways meant to be in my emblem collection xD.

    Basically upgrade rates are ok but what really pissed me off is that after fail we also lose -1 level.


    You can't be sure for anything. Wepon skins from korean they changed to actual Lunancy wepons that we had to upgrade. Same for Ilipia Set. Snow flake emblem in Korea could be farmed during Christmas and upgrade simalar way as mitera neclase, quite easy upgrade, here we have them as timed cash shop item. There are lot of things made for the worst here, comparing to Korean server.
  • someone119someone119 Posts: 66Approved Member Beginner
    Yea,yea..
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  • teufel007teufel007 Posts: 11Approved Member Beginner
    narf 3 b for level 25 too many fails
  • ShadowAlokenLVShadowAlokenLV Posts: 200Approved Member Trainee
    4b + 30x 18% talis. At this moment emblem is at +23 and not going to waste time till they change that -1 level drop when fails to no level drop if item fails. 
    jrharbort
  • jrharbortjrharbort Posts: 54Approved Member Beginner
    ^ I second what @ShadowAlokenLV says.


    The joys now will last forever. 初音ミク道を先導します。


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