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Papaya, you MISSED THE POINT ^^
vanmelvin1
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You already started up with marketing. 500c WRcash for videos? Who's going to record a video on this broken game? I am not. I have a youtube channel with tons of wr videos since 2009 but i can't record :) now i will explain you something.
I apologize for my english but those are words of frustration.
Some about me:
I have been playing for 10 years to this game, many guys know me in BG maybe later i reveal my nickname. i've been through antikick opks, hard laggs, bugged weapons and maps, crashs, lose of exp, random delevel and all sort of bs DE (which is the stupid developer of this great game who just failed miserably because this could have been a waaay better profit game than CSGO) and k2/g1/nex could bring to the game.
I can't believe you didn't get any information on the game you bought.
Warrock situation summary:
Since 2010 the companies started and kept milking the game, first k2/g1 then Nexon. They didn't give a single fuck about game problems and they just kept releasing new overpowered weapons or retails for real life cash.
Is this the direction you want to keep going Papaya? Because i call this stupid.
I think WR veterans asked this to theirselves at least once:
WHY THE FUCK OTHER GAMES ARE POPULAR AND WARROCK IT ISN'T? I mean, i've tried many other FPSes but NO FUCKING ONE has the insane amount mechanics wr has.
CSGO do not have even the half of warrock mechanics. Seriously, it's a fucking empty game to me.
You know why csgo it's at his point?
1- Stable game who could run on every fucking computer <- in the era where you needed supercomputer to run games you could run cs 1.6 without problems. WR was the same in the same years, but featured more mechanics, more maps AND IT WAS FREETOPLAY!
2- Proper anticheat plus pay2pay model = less cheaters
3- Heavy marketing based on eSports and stuff
So what has been missed there?
"Stable" is the main key word. How the hell can
you call a game stable if its plagued by cheaters and bugs? You have to make the game playable in first place. This is the performance achieved by a modern processor
I think you understand this isn't in anyway a playable experience as FPS shooters ask for 60+ framerate. Especially warrock who has a strange engine and anything sub 100 fps will lag, plus physics are depending on framerates (more fps = shoot faster,jump higher etc)
The first thing you have to aim is a PLAYABLE experience. So first thing you have to fix the WR code, making it able to ATLEAST use 2 or even 4 processor as those is the modern standard today. I've heard rumors WR korea uses 8 cores but im not sure of it. You are doing fine with lags for now, next step is to make sure lag can't be used at user advantage (i think other players will explain this further) and give Americans and Turks their proper servers.
After you do this next step is to implement a proper anticheat plus live bans from GM, we are sick of reporting players just to see them banned after 1 year.
Third... probably this interests you more: how do you make money? You have to publish the game heavily. How? By videos like you did but mostly:
championships, tournaments, LAN etc eSports makes games famous (and
profitable) even crap ones like csgo.
BUT you must first make the game playable. THEN you can think about marketing.
Also, i would revisit vehicle balance patch as you made 60% of BG quit the game...
Just basic things because im not going to cover this much as your main focus must be the game performance.
1 avenger is op, blackhawk became useless in map like zakhar and cantumira, zakhar needs a second apache.
2 Revert MD500 Minigun aim, no need to make unrealistic spread
3 Revert car damage changes, now the car its useless because no damage and everyone spams MK1s, m202, Javelin (which are overpowered and should be taken off the game or heavily nerfed) and you are not able to use it effectively.
4 Nerf Aw50f damage to vehicle glass... seriously. I am ok with 1shot in MD500/apache glass but the car is too much weak against aw50f, atleast make it 2shot glass inside humvee.
If you fix the game, maybe i will start recording again. With the actual situation, i cannot record anymore neither play ^^
I apologize for my english but those are words of frustration.
Some about me:
I have been playing for 10 years to this game, many guys know me in BG maybe later i reveal my nickname. i've been through antikick opks, hard laggs, bugged weapons and maps, crashs, lose of exp, random delevel and all sort of bs DE (which is the stupid developer of this great game who just failed miserably because this could have been a waaay better profit game than CSGO) and k2/g1/nex could bring to the game.
I can't believe you didn't get any information on the game you bought.
Warrock situation summary:
Since 2010 the companies started and kept milking the game, first k2/g1 then Nexon. They didn't give a single fuck about game problems and they just kept releasing new overpowered weapons or retails for real life cash.
Is this the direction you want to keep going Papaya? Because i call this stupid.
I think WR veterans asked this to theirselves at least once:
WHY THE FUCK OTHER GAMES ARE POPULAR AND WARROCK IT ISN'T? I mean, i've tried many other FPSes but NO FUCKING ONE has the insane amount mechanics wr has.
CSGO do not have even the half of warrock mechanics. Seriously, it's a fucking empty game to me.
You know why csgo it's at his point?
1- Stable game who could run on every fucking computer <- in the era where you needed supercomputer to run games you could run cs 1.6 without problems. WR was the same in the same years, but featured more mechanics, more maps AND IT WAS FREETOPLAY!
2- Proper anticheat plus pay2pay model = less cheaters
3- Heavy marketing based on eSports and stuff
So what has been missed there?
"Stable" is the main key word. How the hell can
you call a game stable if its plagued by cheaters and bugs? You have to make the game playable in first place. This is the performance achieved by a modern processor
I think you understand this isn't in anyway a playable experience as FPS shooters ask for 60+ framerate. Especially warrock who has a strange engine and anything sub 100 fps will lag, plus physics are depending on framerates (more fps = shoot faster,jump higher etc)
The first thing you have to aim is a PLAYABLE experience. So first thing you have to fix the WR code, making it able to ATLEAST use 2 or even 4 processor as those is the modern standard today. I've heard rumors WR korea uses 8 cores but im not sure of it. You are doing fine with lags for now, next step is to make sure lag can't be used at user advantage (i think other players will explain this further) and give Americans and Turks their proper servers.
After you do this next step is to implement a proper anticheat plus live bans from GM, we are sick of reporting players just to see them banned after 1 year.
Third... probably this interests you more: how do you make money? You have to publish the game heavily. How? By videos like you did but mostly:
championships, tournaments, LAN etc eSports makes games famous (and
profitable) even crap ones like csgo.
BUT you must first make the game playable. THEN you can think about marketing.
Also, i would revisit vehicle balance patch as you made 60% of BG quit the game...
Just basic things because im not going to cover this much as your main focus must be the game performance.
1 avenger is op, blackhawk became useless in map like zakhar and cantumira, zakhar needs a second apache.
2 Revert MD500 Minigun aim, no need to make unrealistic spread
3 Revert car damage changes, now the car its useless because no damage and everyone spams MK1s, m202, Javelin (which are overpowered and should be taken off the game or heavily nerfed) and you are not able to use it effectively.
4 Nerf Aw50f damage to vehicle glass... seriously. I am ok with 1shot in MD500/apache glass but the car is too much weak against aw50f, atleast make it 2shot glass inside humvee.
If you fix the game, maybe i will start recording again. With the actual situation, i cannot record anymore neither play ^^
Comments
Mike
Also when it comes why other F2P games are popular and WR isn't, performance is 1 serious issue yes, another big issue is balance and pay2win and of course having minimal amount of hackers. We need these, this thread has most things needed for WR to be great again, check it out:
http://forum.papayaplay.com/index.php?p=/discussion/357558/fixing-the-business-idea-of-warrock-f2p-is#latest
The balance patch is not even ready, many things are still missing and what you are saying is untrue, BG has been super unbalanced always and things are finally about to change, WR can only get more popular with the balance, not the other way around, sure some clueless players are going to cry about changes but its for the better game so just deal with it.
MD500 minigun "unreal" spread? That's a freaking joke, how was no spread/drop realistic? Also this isn't about realism but game balance.
Car and other vehicles had 80% damage per bullet with no spread, that's ridiculous, now the damage is way more balanced, however the headshot damage is like 1-5% so that should be fixed.
Also once they do some weapon balancing/nerfing the characters, cars will be more useable as well.
Also they will change Blachawk minigun for Apache in the future, you can see all the upcoming changes from here:
http://forum.papayaplay.com/index.php?p=/discussion/356263/kwr-update-thread-many-balance-patches-new-post-graphics-and-interesting-files
And Avenger finally useable, in the past you couldn't get a kill with it, its great now.
AW50F problem is the accuracy combined with all the things it has going for it, snipers need a balancing all together, you can check out proper sniper balance from my thread in ths post:
http://forum.papayaplay.com/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/21725/#Comment_21725
And when it comes to missing a point, well I agree that they had a chance to do a nice proper new start for WR but they missed it, its still possible to do some big changes and do well but time is ticking, especially when the anti cheat isn't there.
Also the Video event is monthly so you have a chance to try it later.
Regards another old veteran player.
since korean ver 2005y
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFvaKyOXvxWCtuWJAKmchQA/videos?view_as=subscriber
I know you, you have been playing for a very long time but you mostly are cqc player, PLEASE don't talk about things who don't concern you. I am a very versatile player, i play EVERYTHING and not just ground so i can speak.
The md500 didn't need this stupid aim change, vehicle are supposed to not have recoil as there are stabilyzers for weapons, nerfing the minigun only leads to harder to kill sniper which will just spam 8 shots of aw50f and take you down, no skills needed. In fact, aw50f glass had to be nerfed, the point of aw50f is shoting inside vehicle glass, not just destroying it with random shooting, there was barret for that. No one uses m134 because aw50f do what m134 do and it does better :)
The car damage was perfectly balanced if you think it is really, really easy to take down (people who complain about cars just can't use anything more than medic and assoult and probably can't aim with them either lol) the "shield" thing does not change anything, it's still easy to aim for head and take it down but the ground players now have more time to do so because car deals no damage... let's not speak about aw50f who will just sit on roof without being scared, it was already hard enough to kill a proper sniper with the car, now it will be impossible.
Avenger IS OP. It's not useable, it's op. I am ok with oneshotting md500 if they nerf aw50f glass damage and i am ok with 8hp/full hp to an apache because both helis have easy dodge mechanics. With BH you can't really dodge the avenger, you will get instaoneshotted, they should atleast HALF the current damage to make BH usable in zakhar/cantu.
I could get avenger kills in the past, if you couldn't you was just bad, you have to get good positioning and have team, with the car damage changes and the strange avenger crosshair now you won't be able to kill people on ground like before, avg will be just something you would pick up to oneshot heli and then leave.
Yes, i am waiting for them to "catch the point" since they started :)
MD500 aim change, recoil what? It has spread now and its normal and balanced. MD500 is still OP, it needs more ways to counter it and there will be more ways to counter it. (Excluding aw50f in its current state, its too easy with 98% accuracy and 8 shot kill)
Car damage wasn't balanced but we can look into balance again after they have done weapon balancing and other balancing etc.
Avenger is anti-air, its supposed to kill air vehicles fast, in the past you rarely get a kill with it, now you can take down air vehicles more easily finally and that's great. Maybe its op against BH but so what' its anti-air, you just need to make sure somebody destroys it before you try to kill people with bh...And if they half its damage it would be bad again and unuseable against planes and helis cause they would take half damage and just turn around and kill you with few bullets, cause avenger doesn't have much defence...
Also its supposed to be anti-air, not anti person, besides its still good against infantry too, it prolly had the bug damage before too so you were just used to the op damage.
People have made ridiculous scores with op vehicles in BG for too long and its finally about to change, you all just need to adjust and play like a man now instead of abusing op vehicles.
Just wait for more patches now.
Do not talk about things that are not your concern. MD didn't need spread, MD actually needed to not do that insane damage to tanks and to have a recharge for rockets. Vehicles are supposed to be OP vs the ground.
There were already many ways to counter, aw50f,barret, stinger bugginter and normal, m134, antiair, you just have to have a team and have a skill, which probably you do not have as you don't play BG.
Avenger is supposed to kill vehicles fast, not to be unbalanced shit, trust me as you don't play bg and are a no name: YOU CAN'T FLY BH IN THE ACTUAL STATE OF AVENGER, they can just half the damage vs BH for now, need more testing to say anything for Conturas.
I'll repeat once again.. LEARN TO PLAY. The only OP vehicle was the Apache in zakhar/thamugadi. Every other vehicle besides apache and A10 were fine, car damage was perfectly fine, no one blamed that damage.
People have made ridicolous score only vs lv 1 or people like you who can only grab a mp7k or ak47, instead of teaching people how to play they nerf vehicles ahahaha gg papaya
You haven't even revealed your nickname here, got something to hide? I see.
And I'm not going to go on about if I have played BG or not, I think I know this better than you do.
And they haven't balanced the defences of the vehicles properly yet, I believe MD will indeed do less damage against tanks.
You can fly with BH but you just gotta take the avenger down before, play as a team like you said, all it takes is few rpg's. Also BH won't be long in Zakhar anymore, who knows, it might get patched and changed tonight.
Also no one complained about car damage? Literally every time you used car you get called "car noob" etc. and for a good reason, same with most vehicles machine guns with that bugged 80% dmg per bullet that had no spread.
And learn to play? Like you know how well I play lol.