Game wipe isn't acceptable

Greetings Papayaplay and KOEI.
On behalf of Uncharted Waters Online players, I strongly disagree with wiping UWO Server to start from the beginning in order to resolve game system and economy.
You can't easily waste players' long spent years building their characters and their various achievements in the game, including rare discoveries, most valuable ships and skills that could take months to raise like Shipbuilding.
This decision will simply make you lose so many players, those who spent years to play and experience the different and various specifications and features of this game.
This game was and will remain great as long as you respectfully keep our data save.
So please, reconsider server wiping.
There are many ways to fix game systems and economics of it rather than wiping and you can ask experts either the players or the IT.
We willingly looking forward to agreeing with our will.
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Hawka
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  • SUNDOGG97SUNDOGG97 Posts: 135Member Trainee
    I support the comments.

    Please listen to the community
    Idsadarjonhwy
  • HelloAllHelloAll Posts: 701Member Intermediate
    I support. 

    But its happening. 

    they did it with that la tale game and its happening now. 

    I give this game a year max
    Idsadar
  • wwarble1wwarble1 Posts: 20Member Beginner
    I am absolutely devastated. I've had a lot of loss in my life and this is almost as bad as a minor influence dying. I can't express how I actually feel about this, but it's the highest level of not ideal possible.
    Madcatz0543angelofdarknssIdsadar
  • crazyhunter2003crazyhunter2003 Posts: 763Member Intermediate
    signed
    Idsadar
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  • shelleylshelleyl Posts: 90Member Beginner
    IF, and I mean IF, I play anymore after you wipe the server Papaya,  understand please that I will spend ZERO real money on this game. By wiping it you have lost my trust. I know I am not alone. Please listen to us or prepare to launch a dead game. You will NOT make any more money by starting it over.
    Anthoniaordon1angelofdarknssIdsadarOberrillkrazybastidrahelyoel
  • shelleylshelleyl Posts: 90Member Beginner
    edit, signed
    Idsadar
  • JazzminJazzmin Posts: 60Member Beginner
    I agree with the post that a server wipe would cause damage that would be very difficult to undo.
    I agree wtih the OP.

    IdsadarFrozenRubyAarMiNei
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  • WesDoobnerWesDoobner Posts: 761Member Intermediate
    Not counting on this, but perhaps papaya can see how much people have spent in the astro shop in the past, and give them some credits proportionate to that amount to smooth things over a little.
    Idsadarjest11
    May the winds blow you well
  • WendyWindblowsWendyWindblows Posts: 56Member Beginner
    They killed the game , i agree with the OP. those that do return will not be spending money just to be burned again , new players only last a month, very few stay. this is the only game i have come across that has such a high number of mature adults palying. and why is that . Patients. most younger players what everything now , older players look for long term goals and know its a long road 
    IdsadarOberrillLyonesseJosephAarMiNeishelleyl
  • TheGeminiHawkaTheGeminiHawka Posts: 14Member Beginner
    I really hope they consider reading our disagreement with their decision so they may rethink about it.
    Idsadar
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  • WendyWindblowsWendyWindblows Posts: 56Member Beginner
    They won't. They havnt bothered to reply to even 1 thread or post , i doubt very much they have read any posts on the forum, so fuck them , IF and its a big IF i do play again , I WILL NOT SPEND A PENNY
    Idsadarshelleyl
  • TheGeminiHawkaTheGeminiHawka Posts: 14Member Beginner
    Then I think I won't start again from zero, so the rest of players, I mean, former players :)
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  • DelaineDelaine Posts: 21Member Beginner
    da support 
    Idsadar
    ign splink
  • HUIBRO1HUIBRO1 Posts: 23Member Beginner
    I agree and support the comment!
    IdsadarCBZZ420
  • ZechariahZechariah Posts: 14Member Beginner
    as one has 7 !/2 years in game I fully agree with Hawka
    IdsadarCBZZ420
  • GoosioGoosio Posts: 71Member Beginner
    I agree. A total wipe will only hurt the game and the companies running/owning it, not help it. The trick to MMOs is to keep your players coming back for more; if you take away the things that kept them coming back in the first place, what incentive is there for them to keep returning, to keep buying to support the game, to keep on playing even for free? No amount of money shop compensation will make up for the skills I leveled up, the discoveries I worked hard to find, the cash/event items I collected, or the friendships I made over time.

    I would encourage you to contact Vertigo directly ( https://www.gamasutra.com/view/pressreleases/306350/UNCHARTED_WATERS_ONLINE_SETTING_SAIL_FOR_PAPAYA_PLAY.php ) as well, possibly even KOEI-Tecmo, and not just comment in the forums or Facebook only. Be polite but firm when you do so. We lose nothing by letting them know how bad this idea is, I think.
    angelofdarknssJRLucas1IdsadarCBZZ420
  • IdsadarIdsadar Posts: 140Member Trainee
    Signed. And shame on you Papaya !!
    GoosioCBZZ420JRLucas1
  • OberrillOberrill Posts: 133Member Trainee
     You wipe and no more money from me. It is that simple.

    Idsadar
  • LyonesseJosephLyonesseJoseph Posts: 637Member Intermediate
    Well said Wendy, I don't plan to spend on cash shop for a while since I lost shitload of ships and rare items and got work out on my new toons for nothing after I transferred my astro ships and one time/non-buyable items to main toons.
  • KitVonKittersonKitVonKitterson Posts: 1Member Beginner
    Signed.

    I've told you what i think, what I thought. By doing this you destroyed ANY chance of me spending money with you. How, exactly, do I know that what I gain over the next 7 years wouldn't go the way of what I have accomplished to this point?

    The game economy and veteran / newbie balance will return to what it was in a year. That's the nature of the beast. Money and experience is VERY simple to grind (for those who grind). The problem is, and always was, the difference in playing styles between the "casual" gamer and the "hardcore" gamer. One grinds and thereby gets resources and with those resources is able to buy, sell, or hold as he sees fit to influence the economy (which, by means of his resources, he doesn't even have to participate in). The other finds little enjoyment in grinding and therefore has a vastly more "fun" and more "varied" game experience, but doesn't accumulate the resources... leaving him largely at the mercy of the now "veteran" gamers who did do the grind (often till there fingers were sore .)

    So you see... in 7 years you will need another server wipe. And 7 years after that? Yeah. I was a 66/76/75. It took 7 years to get there... no I didn't grind much, thats work AND I ALREADY HAVE A JOB. A real one. So I was just barely accumulating the good stuff. The stuff it takes to win. Thanks. Huh turns out...... all those complaints about it being pay to win, TOTALLY CORRECT
    Idsadar
  • noobnessnoobness Posts: 60Member Beginner
    I don't think papaya play is at fault for wiping the server to be honest.....  https://support.papayaplay.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002493853-Why-should-I-transfer-my-OGPlanet-ID- .... Due to OGPlanet's discontinuation of service on September 29th, all Uncharted Waters data on their servers been lost. All previous player invested time and contributions to Uncharted Waters are very important to our team, and in order to receive your Founders Rewards, you must transfer your ID to Papaya Play through the provided transfer service.
    shelleyl
  • ZimXeroZimXero Posts: 190Member Trainee
    You know... why didn't they just take all of our ducats?  That would reset the economy right?
  • LyonesseJosephLyonesseJoseph Posts: 637Member Intermediate
    Indeed, they did say ,but latter did make clear that they intend to reset because of economy woes just like La Tale. That's why they made excuse in order to get move on without issues. 

    Due to the technical nature of the relaunch, however, all existing player progress and items from OGP will unfortunately be lost, and the game world/economy will undergo a complete reset.

    Furthermore, if they indeed lost OGP data, we won't able to transfer our accounts to Papaya.
    xibwiz
  • GoosioGoosio Posts: 71Member Beginner
    I've heard people were complaining about the economy even in the beta days, when Indian/Caribbean trade goods were being bazaar'd like Nanban goods. I don't see that changing in the "reset" server either. It happened once, it could happen again.

    As well, don't forget that a lot of us preserved our accomplishments/levels/albums/possessions in screenshots and videos, the latter of which aren't as easy to fake as screenshots. If they'd given us the option to at least import those things we could prove we had by recreating them, it might've been received a little better. Even that option isn't being offered right now, though.
  • ZimXeroZimXero Posts: 190Member Trainee
    all they had to do is remove ducats in transfer, allow one account only, removed all items they believed had balance issues... and the economy would reset.  Honestly, they have an idyllic, romantic image that resetting the server will bring the rains again.  They are wrong.
  • shelleylshelleyl Posts: 90Member Beginner
    There has been 3 separate explanations now, all are BS. I sent in a ticket, I'm not holding my breath

    LyonesseJoseph
  • LyonesseJosephLyonesseJoseph Posts: 637Member Intermediate
    There has been 3 separate explanations now, all are BS. I sent in a ticket, I'm not holding my breath

    Indeed, it's just like OGP because they blamed on Koei for their own mishaps. Papaya made clear that they intended to reset it because they want to make gameplay more balance which isn't gonna happen. 

    Unfortunately, your character progress and inventory will not be moved as part of the Transfer Service.

    This sounds like La Tale, doesn't it ?.

    At least, they will upgrade UWO to Age of Reasons.
  • GreetjeRijkGreetjeRijk Posts: 44Member Beginner
    I don't mind if the founder rewards package include of these following items:

    G7 LLM/RLS/CHC God Mode
    200B worth of Cheques
    Full Aide & Captain Return Package (Max Levels and Refined Skill rank)
    Full Quarter refurbish contract (R5 quarter with all +4 furnitures, +5 skill book shelf)

    But with all those stated above, papaya play, you might as well buy over the data base instead of making excuses with technical issues.

  • calicaddy46calicaddy46 Posts: 123Member Trainee
    I don't want any of those. I want my stuff.
    CaliCaddy46
    ACME_Corporation
    Amsterdam
  • GreetjeRijkGreetjeRijk Posts: 44Member Beginner
    ikr cali,
    add your wish list now before they fixate it. might worth a shot. xD
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