Frozen Ruby

ZimXero · October 2017

Is Frozen Ruby an average "Joe" player, excited about the reset?

Others have pointed out the player has affiliations with Koei.

Frozen Ruby has posted over 120 times, has 66 dislikes, and 33 likes (as of now).

Perhaps you can explain yourself Frozen....

Are you just really excited to pirate in an un-nerfed server?

Are you working on behalf of Papaya?

If just do not care at all when the time and money in your life become wasted, what is exciting you to make all of these posts supporting Papaya and dismissing any claims of OGP wrongdoing?

FrozenRuby · October 2017

well first off i neither confirmed or denied a comment... i allowed someone to believe what they wanted.

first off not going to pirate right off the bat kind dumb to do that considering hostile ports aren't going to be really that open. early stage getting the servers economy going is priority, what excites me is playing in uncharted waters literally we are entering waters that neither the vets or the new players have touched for over 7 years and the waters us vets saw back then aren't the same as what we will see too much has changed between then and now and what is to come with the relaunch. so yes i'm excited to venture into the unknown.

OGP wrongdoings i neither care what OGP did or didn't do, plenty of info was outthere that anyone could of read and avoided buying astro's near the end, as for papaya i support those that take up the mantle of UWO and look towards a more better future of the server. they are take a fresh perspective on GAMA server. by adding new content further expansions rebalancing the game and as a result of all the changes a wipe was required because so much coding is being changed to avoid corrupting the server files they are wiping it to guaranteeing that files and coding will work properly, they are giving those that transfered their OGP ID's a founders pack we don't know whats in it yet could be anything.

yes i have alot of dislikes and a few likes sure i am blunt and brutal about my opinions of others they way the forums have been filled with tears and complains and drama because something developers decided on and the players can't control and its funny. even if this wipe doesn't reverse the nerfs i'll still be happy with it. its could be worse it could of been papaya takes over continues where OGP left off and never adds any further content because the players didn't want a wipe and the developers needed a wipe to add new content to the game and rebalances and items. but because there wasn't a wipe they can't so the game stays where it transfered at with no new content ever being added further.

DeathHarbinger · October 2017

Ah hell, FrozenRuby, join our team: InternationGroupUWO.teamspeak3.com

Idsadar · October 2017

FrozenRuby..why are you so shure that Papaya will do everything they say?Are you 100% shure they willl do all of that?It will be a good thing if they will invest some cash in the game,do some promoting to bring new players,add new content and many more.

But i ask you again..are you shure they will do that?How can you be so shure? For me this are just words...

So untill i will see this things in the game,untill i will see a server full of new and happy players,untill i will see all that they promise, what i can do is acuse them for killing this game.

But if they will do everything they say and i will see a flourishing new UWO than i will admit i was wrong and you and Papaya was right.

FrozenRuby · October 2017

all u do by accusing to them on killing the game is by creating unneeded drama about it and causing others to get rilled up beside u to cry too, instead try being positive instead of causing negativity to rise be part of the solution not the problem

rangerzfan · October 2017

They did not have to wipe the inventories. And you have no idea what is instore for the future. Yes changes need to be made, but a complete wipe is a lazy cowards way to fix the game. Many suggestions filled the old forums on solutions to fix various issues. They are taking a huge risk the player base will be there and actually stay. If not, there will not be 4 years on this server.

FrozenRuby · October 2017

yes u believe a wipe is a lazy cowards way to fix the game , but do u know the coding of the game do u know that the content they are adding and rebalancing and changes to game rules and items wouldn't corrupt the game files and cause many more issues with the game maybe even completely cause the shut down of the gama server, right now the wipe is to gaurentee that the new content and changes they apply to the server will not cause system file corruption so the wipe is to ensure the changes are properly applied with lil to no issues coding wise or problems that can cause major bugs. it is their choice to go with safety over risk

Goosio · October 2017

You speak as if every single item in the game threatened its stability, when the majority of the items we're losing were coded to naturally exist in the game to begin with. Equippable clothes and weapons, ships, parts, consumables, memorial albums, stored trade goods... even our skills (refined or otherwise) and job classes/discoveries were part and parcel of the infrastructure being lost here.

The same holds true for companies and their colonies; at no point were unusual or bizarrely coded buildings or features implemented there. The loss of port development levels will be especially painful as it will slow down whatever progress new players could have made to an almost glacial pace, and so any new content released that is not centered in Europe will likely be unavailable for months at a time.

Per the advice of players like CadillacShimpin and others, many of us took time to document our possessions and achivements so that they could be restored in the event of a loss like the one we're faced with now. Vertigo could choose to restore some of what we have lost, but if they elect not to do so, then that will only further deepen the bad sentiments towards them, and drive away more of the already beleaguered player base.

I'm personally curious where you've gotten all this information you keep mentioning and speak of with such authority on the matter, as I've seen nothing official on the website, the forums, or the official Facebook page to explain any of this to us, so far.

Laviol · October 2017

@Frozen
Did OGP not change game rules.. content.. coding.. seems like they did it all while the game was not wiped...

I myself could not program this game HOWEVER if a failing company could.. shouldnt papaya be able to..

Simple fact is OGP dumped us so fast Papaya probably didnt have the staff or resources to stand up the server or take the data in place so they just hit the EASY button and said wipe, reprogram on a fresh server and it will be much easier.

Just my theory/opinion

Off subject but can we block people on forums..

DeathHarbinger · October 2017

People would be like, 'Nice knowing you' if Papaya had not taken over. End of story.

FrozenRuby · October 2017

it comes from experience and knowing what goes into a game even the simplist of games like tetris or pong require millions if not billions of lines of code to function properly, every cog in the machine in perfect unison working together to complete the system. if but 1 line of code 1 error in spelling or typing syntax, out of place could cause corruption of system files, as for the information it can be found on Playuwo.com. and on https://support.papayaplay.com/hc/en-us/categories/115000240693-Uncharted-Waters, if u further can't find it i'll be happy to point ya to an optomatrist to have your eyes looked at.

as for glacial pace yes it takes time to open stuff up and get started its how it should be not so fast that u miss out on the exploration of the world as it is opened, as for loosing ur progress its just a risk when playing a MMORPG that makes major changes, content, rebalances, expansions, and the owners choose its the best interest to wipe the server to ensure the safety of the system files,

if u still can't follow along i'd advise u to ask an adult to help u with understanding.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx · October 2017

I've got to say that I am really disappointed that Papaya Play decided to wipe the server.
I'm mostly disappointed because it means that I will have to spend hours and hours again grinding to get to any reasonable capability and no advanced player will be able to help me.
I loved that when I started, advanced players gave me food, ducats, improved ships, etc. to make my journey easier. That won't be possible again for quite some time.
With the resentment created within the advanced community, losing everything they worked so hard to achieve and create, it has to hurt the game.

FrozenRuby · October 2017

no it only hurts those that allow it to effect them, there is no point in looking at the past and saying stuff that can't change it. all their doing is spinning their wheels and crying in rage at something that can't be changed, so why bother complaining look to the future and go from there

Goosio · October 2017

Thanks, but I think I'd rather consult an optometrist if I had any eye problems. :) As it is, all I see in the FAQs right now is very generic, at times nebulously worded statements; that they were quietly added there recently instead of being made as official announcement posts seems strange to me.

As well, things already being opened didn't harm the game at all in the past six years, nor did they detract from the exploration factor of the game. If anything, they added freedom of mobility and the option for new players to truly forge their own path, rather than have to work to unlock everything over from scratch, and not being able to benefit from the wisdom and skills of players who'd been active before the newcomers in question. I can't help but think that the knowledge that such a reset has already happened once before, and could now happen again if it was considered to be in the game's "best interests", isn't the kind of thing I would expect to encourage server growth/retention either.

And whatever knowledge and expertise you possess, unless you've personally been involved in the UWO coding department, or have been in close contact with those who presently are, then you're only speculating as to the reasons for the 'technical' issues, and genuinely have no more of an idea of the reasons for them than a random stranger on the street.

I do worry I might have trouble finding an adult to help me with anything right now, though. So far, I fear I haven't found one in this portion of the forum. Perhaps I'll try over that-a-way...

TheCrimsonPirate · October 2017

This is not an argument of whether it hurts the players. It definitely hurts the game whether someone chooses to or not. We have to rebuild everything which is taking big steps backward in order to take small steps forward with updates. Only time will tell how it will affect the lifetime of the game and how many players choose to play UWO. I am not sure much advertising goes out for UWO. This isn't some new 2017 game that people will pick up and enjoy. People with patience make it in this.

FrozenRuby · October 2017

this is the first server wipe since gama was released in october 2010

how about u get a degree in computer engineering and become a Game designer then u can have a valid input on what is or isn't a technical issue with adding content rebalances and new expansion adding or removing items ships and such adjusting pvp rules plundering items and deck battle frequency, and many other changes not listen and have the true knowledge that these changes and adjustments will or will not hold a high probability to corrupt the game files if placed in a already unstable build of the game.

krazybastid · October 2017

OK Ruby you have a point we are not all game developers. It takes a lot of skill to become one and I wish I never dropped out of college for Computer Science but I had some extreuating cercumstances. But anyway. A server wipe is not the answer you heard many people on here heartbroken about the loss the stories of what everybody is gonna loose is enough for some to go crazy. I feel sad for all vets and mid level players if a wipe is the case.

Goosio · October 2017

Ruby, are you saying one's input isn't of value if they do not meet certain requirements or hold specific educational degrees? Interesting. Quite contrary to what Papaya Play/Vertigo have been saying in those FAQs you've quoted so often...

https://support.papayaplay.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002493933-Where-can-I-interact-with-the-Uncharted-Waters-Community-

"Please feel free to share any discussions, suggestions or ideas on our
Forum with other users and our Uncharted Waters Support Team. Our team
will be more than happy to listen to you regarding your game experiences
and feedback in order to improve user experience and the community."

aceman39 · October 2017

Well you know some people have inside info I guess that the rest of us don't have a way into this info so I guess we are in the dark. I have been around a while and will see what happens but it seems dumb to do a complete wipe/reset and take everything away we all worked hard for and have to start over. I personal hated the school part and after doing this game for so many years will suck to have to do those stupid schools over

TheCrimsonPirate · October 2017

I am excited for the relaunch because I play this game to relax and have fun. I was not here to experience the early days of GAMA, but from the sounds of it, it's a grind and that's what I like to hear because I am up for it even if it's torture. I never took it too seriously, but I understand the frustrations of everyone.

I hope PapayaPlay the servers will be stable going forward and that the game continues to live for at least another year.

aceman39 · October 2017

Figure this. Many of us grinding skills and refined then re grind those skills and in one swoop all that is taken away and we have to do that all over again. It is a hard road and if you are trying to do 3 crafting grind and say throw in ship building it is like a non stop forever grind

GreetjeRijk · October 2017

Well papaya did earn a reputation of wiping games they took over.

Shoot first, Ask later policy

FrozenRuby · October 2017

@Goosio

"Please feel free to share any discussions, suggestions or ideas on our
Forum with other users and our Uncharted Waters Support Team (haven't responded to more then 2 posts on any of the threads). Our team
will be more than happy to listen to you regarding your game experiences
and feedback in order to improve user experience and the community." (states to improve the user experience and community does not state GAME or Features or ITEM or when transferring from OGP to papaya)

and as for stated above the opinion of an uneducated player who has no experience in coding a large game or a huge program wouldn't understand the risks of add and adjusting and removing and rebalancing so much content that a wipe is necessary to do all these changes over the 3 weeks before the relaunch to avoid corrupting the data files, what would the players want really u can never satisfy everyone, someone or many are going to complain because something didn't go their way.

i have dealt with game programming in the past the single error or the not proper format if they miss something would cause data corruption, something as small as a misplaced capital or lower case letter could cause this , or worse yet create a bug in the system that could cause mass corruption and go completely unnoticed till it was too late to save the game files.

so yes not having enough insight as to why they have to wipe instead of crying how unfair it is maybe take a look at it from a coding perspective. and see with ur own eyes just how dangerous it would be to implement so many different changes into an already existing game data rather then a freshly wiped version.

GreetjeRijk · October 2017

So in your own conveniences, it's alright to forsake an established community (customers)?

What sort of programmer are you really?

I would have you fired in my company if I ever heard these.

FrozenRuby · October 2017

@OmegaKaiserRoland nice multi account there Atakebune2 need it don't ya to bring down the power of numbers quanitity over quality kind odd ur the only one disliking my post because i'm blunt not sympathetic.

@GreetjeRijk lets go with yes its ok to forsaken and established community (customers) (customers aren't always right) as for a programmer i worked for Microsoft, i've worked for Fido a telecommunication company, i've worked for S&P i've been in so many programming companies over the years to know what to look for in a major change on a game or program or system. and they aren't forsaking the community they are doing what is in their best interests they are looking out of the game as a whole i've already voiced likely scenarios as to why the wipe is going to happen, they are nice enough to give everyone that transfers their ID from OGP to papaya a founder pack, they didn't have to do that but they did because they appreciate what the players did for the game. but now they need to change the perspective of how people view UWO on the GAMA server. maybe they got so much feedback from the new players that join and leave the game or old vets that no longer play and they decided what was best for the game to bring back more players or to make it a lil more fun. maybe the game isn't geared towards the young energetic players maybe it geared towards old people with more patience and time on their hands. maybe they can't satisfy everyone but they can make it less of a problem then it was before. maybe for the fact that a major change of the games coding would require a wipe to prevent data corruption or major bugs or to help based on feedback the players that are struggling when they join the game or old players that come back to a game they don't feel part of anymore. yes we have a huge community but there are more players that are not playing UWO that used to compared to all the active accounts.

GreetjeRijk · October 2017

Guess those company fired you for your laziness.

You might try getting a job with papaya play, they need your convenience work style.

FrozenRuby · October 2017

yes i could but then all u will do is complain if something gets changed and u don't like it and they didn't fire me i still work for fido i'm part time on S&P and i help with some coding and testing with microsoft so i'm pretty good where i'm at

GreetjeRijk · October 2017

Why don't u post your resume here?

Seems like you are trying to gain crowd attention. :)

FrozenRuby · October 2017

now why would i give away personal information like my home address and real name and all my history.

if i wanted attention that badly i'd go take calls from customers complaining about how lifes unfain and how our company has charged them for something they didn't use yet our system shows exact date and time and equipment and sim card use for the usage

GreetjeRijk · October 2017

That's what i have said "post your resume here"

FrozenRuby · October 2017

sadly i know better then to satisfy ur curiosity with my personal information.

Frozen Ruby

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