mamacat's prediction of how the game will be

shelleyl · October 2017

First week, a few folks will log in just to see what the legacy package will entail, maybe run a character through school, try to get a few port permits. Pirates will start complaining that there is no one to make their 18 gate guns, and why aren't people in hostiles yet.

Second week, the folks that stay will start working on port development in EU, focus on the ones that have the most useful materials and recipes, and try to build them up a little. There's no serious money around, so this will take weeks of port hopping in our grad sambuks.

Third week, Papaya will start pushing all the Pay to Win items in its cash shop. This will get them some business from the pirates, but the rest will ignore and mock. Papaya may even try some events related to the new content, but oops, no body has the permits or levels for that.

Fourth week, people will remember what they used to have, and how much fun it was when this game developed, think about I used to have a stack of (fill in the blank) to help with this, get disgusted again and walk away.

Fifth week, the handful of people who wanted the server wipe can hold hands in Seville and sing Kumbayah as the server dies.

Goosio · October 2017

"A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."

I fear much the same outcome. If it really comes to pass, I know I'll only be around long enough to do school quests and record them for nostalgic viewing purposes; I always loved Instructor Alan, Andrea the flirt, Gregory the rambler, Mathias the ship lover, and of course, genki-boy Mutu. Beyond that... farewell, UWO. You had a wonderful seven years. I'm honored to have been around for five of them, and with it had been ten times as long of a run.

crazyhunter2003 · October 2017

that's"Interesting game" iirc

Goosio · October 2017

Not according to the YouTube clip I consulted to be extra sure, crazy.

BlakeC · October 2017

Sadly, I also foresee the future of UWO coming out like Mamacat said, though I think it will more realistically play out in a matter of months then weeks. Many players will come, check out what the so-called legacy package has and what else the game has changed, perhaps stay for a little bit, then leave. Then theres the others that plan to stay and try to rebuild UWO as much as they can. I can see many of them dropping out one by one, because they'll eventually get bored or fed up by a lack of other players around and re-grinding everything. Eventually, papayaplay will drop the game because it's become a ghost town and bringing in little revenue in its coffers. I have no idea what papaya plans to offer in its cash shop, or even if we'll have something like a sailors bottle with astros ships.

Im not saying it will happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if UWO got shot down in a matter of months...

OgieOgilthorpe · October 2017

mamacat has it just about right, except perhaps for the timing. Like Blake, I see the game continuing, in ever diminishing form, for about six months. Since my budget for online gaming is zero, I will ALWAYS be at a competitive disadvantage in any sort of PvP. Bringing back item plunder (which seems hinted at) would greatly influence whether or not I would spend all the time necessary for a non-coiner to return to the levels I was at previously. Much, very much, depends on the compensation being offered. A dozen 30-Day blue flags would be enough to lure me back, but it is very unlikely that Papayaplay will be anywhere near that generous. All that said - I look forward to seeing many friends again, if only to say goodbye for good to the game with them.

calicaddy46 · October 2017

Don't worry, the ones that asked for the wipe and fix of things will keep the game going....right? RIGHT?

Idsadar · October 2017

Yeah...shure. Right! :))

Centex3kgt · October 2017

mamacat, I think your prediction is a little more "doom and gloom" than the actual result will be.

These are my predictions (personal opinion):

As with the election in 2016, there is a vocal minority yelling and complaining about the wipe (maybe 15% of active playerbase) a vocal minority lauding it (another 15% of the active playerbase) and those nonvocal people split maybe 25% for and 45% against.

Of all of those, I believe we will have 60% retention with maybe half of those willing to spend money on the game from the start.

This is my weekly first month prediction:

First Week: A lot of people will log in to see what the legacy package will be. About 50% will work their way through school and start building up permits and investing in cities in EU.

Second Week: About 20% of player base gets upset and quits between now and third week. A lot of the rest have finished school, started on college, and started running storyline quest. Major cities in EU now have enough development to start working out better. First set of experienced traders start hitting Africa and India, moving much more money into the economy via trade runs. Crafting starts to take off at lower levels, and player market starts rebuilding. New players start arriving from other games and learning UWO (about 15-20% of these new players are retained for the long run, the rest either dabble or quit after experiencing the grind)

Third Week: First set of regular traders start making runs towards India and bringing back spice. EU now has a comparatively massive influx of investments from this. Dungeon runs for ESBT's start flourishing and making money again. Crafting and bazaars start to crop up in major cities.

Fourth Week: Gameplay stabilizes with about 50% of the ACTIVE "legacy" players from before the transfer, and a new influx of a hundred or so new players. Companies and Colonies start to spring up, most of the doomsayers are either gone, or complaints about the wipe fall on deaf ears as others play.

Aetphs · October 2017

*eye roll*

All these posts really make me sick. Just because things didn't happen like you want them to you all run around like your head got cut off. This negative nancy BS needs to stop.

theedgedemon · October 2017

i bet there will be NC/Astro ships on the first week of release, papaya has shown their interest is in getting the most money the fastest way they can, and won't let that go.

the only reason for the wipe was in hopes people who got their nice NC ship robbed, would pay again to get another.

A hundred players? woah, you could almost fill 3 companies with a few more! a shame they wont invest in a company with a track record of wiping servers.

theedgedemon · October 2017

@Centex3kgt Of all of those, I believe we will have 60% retention with maybe half of those willing to spend money on the game from the start.

i wouldn't bet on that, because new players try to get a feel of the game before investing money and old players are angry at their lost money.

i for one was considering buying a lot of SSIPs from the publisher as my token of appreciation for taking the game, they will however get not a single coin out of me i can tell you.

Centex3kgt · October 2017

theedgedemon: I'm not betting on it. BUT the mentality of "angry at their lost money" is a bit naive from my standpoint. This is a new host. They did not take your money, OGP did.

I have other posts that expound on my opinions and theories as to why the wipe is happening. I will not hesitate to spend money on this NEW host, because they are NOT OGP.

And even though a vocal minority are saying "I will never spend a dime" does not mean that this is the opinion of the entire community as a whole. Quite the opposite could be true as a matter of fact.

Case in point, a vocal minority broadcasts their political views on america (both sides) to everyone who will listen (and many who will not) on the web every day, yet the majority of people fall somewhere in the middle, and keep it to themselves.

xibwiz · October 2017

I dunno, but the life of the game will depend on what they going to sell in cash shop, if they are going to sell same kind of stuff like ships and overpowered items like OGP then will be directly going to sunk. But if is more going on stuff like asian servers then probably may survive for a bit more.

fields1234 · October 2017

Thing is where would the money come from to invest in all the towns and cities, some take hundreads of thousands to invest to unlock goods/items and then there others that require certain development and investment.

All I can really see is

1st hour, 100people fishing to grind cooking and storage skills and fishing ofcourse
5th hour, 80 people fishing,

3 months server killed off, no new host, gama/papayaland (Which ever you want to refer to it now) Will cease to exist

NiccoloDeConti · October 2017

Mamacat's predictions seem pretty spot on to me. Unless these "Legacy Packages" include some ulimited x2 SP and Fame rate charms + a few hundred million duccats, several hundred SSIPs and maybe enough papaya bucks or w/e they are called to buy a hundred or so sailor bottles, I really don't see too many people sticking around.

And I'm sorry to say Centex, but a hundred new players in a four week period is a serious stretch, might get that many in a year at the rate Koei advertises this game. Even if that number was accurate, of those hundred maybe a dozen or two would actually enjoy the game and not think it was dated beyond belief to actually keep playing. Of those dozen how many would actually invest money and time knowing full well that they could have all of their virtual items and progress deleted at the drop of a hat? And who is going to teach them how to play anyways? The learning curve of this game is INSANE compared to just about all other games out there. You just can't read a few "how to" guides and have a clue what to do...

yaj7381 · October 2017

Well hello uwo world chat friends ..... as far as i know and would asses this situation. it would be just about the business side of things .... maybe ogp enjoyed uwo but i think papaya offered uwo a new style ... bring back the plunder , new style of combat, new shipbuild, new style of money making, new style of drinking and eating in barkeep .... he he he.... you know guys just sit back and relax ... i played uncharted waters 1 on ninetendo super NES and it was simple 1995 ..... 1996 i played uncharted waters 2 also on snes... it was improved ... better play and the storylines are all characters you can shooe meet up in all their storylines.... i missed those games.... then technology came and internet arrived in the philippines 1998 or 99 ... and i saw in the year 2000's there was uncharted waters later games but in japanese...... /// then i saw this game uwo .... wow i was ecstatic and i thank all for helping me ... calicaddy perciles masterbuilder mamacat panghe benjok flame rhiyu vloods my friends.... thanks for all and i am assuming ogp and papaya uwo will be a little different and i am excited.... see you on the seas oct or november guys ... thanks for all the ogp memories.....

Centex3kgt · October 2017

@NiccoloDeConti

"Of those dozen how many would actually invest money and time knowing full well that they could have all of their virtual items and prgress deleted at the drop of a hat?"

Are you serious? There was a reset ONCE, with a new host. Where do you get your idea that they are interested or even willing to reset over and over? Your base premise is flawed.

crazyhunter2003 · October 2017

@ fields1234 we get founders rewards there are 100m ducat checks in it ,there is plenty of start up investment ducats to get us off to a good start

pieratthe · October 2017

LOLOLOLOLOLO....

LOLOLOLOLOLOL....

"alot of the players that asked for a wipe" LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL....

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Do you actually think what a player said/posted during the end days of OGP had ANY EFFECT what-so-ever on Papaya's decision to wipe the server?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOL.

When has a game company actually listened to players? This is what caused the decision imo. They looked back at the login/server history, and prolly found a time, where the mass exodus of players starting happening, then they checked company logs to see what changes occured prior to this mass exodus. And what they seen, was the Player GM Coolwind, has just forced changes onto the server reguarding plunder/deck. So someone was smart enuff to see that, that caused many players to leave, and the slow dimiss of the entire server. So they decided to redo those changes. Nothing that I or anyone else said in the public channels inside the game towards the end of server was prolly even seen by papaya. So No the changes aren't cause of players asking for it, it's cause the new host papaya wants those changes.

So maybe just maybe some of you are incorrect about things, and when i said this sever needs piracy i was correct. Cause apparently someone who works for a game company, thinks like i do. Incase u havn't been keeping up with all the information flowing around on facebook, forums and other site's. There's a good number of OLD players who are going to return and give it a try, since PvP, and piracy mite be fixed.

Also i know LOTS of maritimers and OLD maritimers who have no problem supporting the game. Don't think ur few dollars spent as a trader/adv is anywhere near what a maritimer will spend.

WendyWindblows · October 2017

i may pop in for a half hour per day , just to watch the game slowley die. i will not participate in schools , quests or trad/adv. . just look at how many players are in the major towns , that wil give me an idea od server population . i suspect many will return just untill the free stuff is usefull , then stop playinf , as they will not want to buy anything from this disgracefull company that wiped 7 years progress and god knows how much money was spent by players. just because players spen tin the past does not mean they will spend pend pend to recoop what they had , they feel anger , real anger

HelloAll · October 2017

So what’s the point of coming on Wendy?

Seems like your hoping to gloat at other people trying to enjoy it but failing.

I’d much prefer you to just come on and try and enjoy it like the rest of us.

aceman39 · October 2017

I have to say I agree with you helloall

dsmack3 · October 2017

Take a look at the other forums here ...papaya has reset their own games before to fix them. I honestly can't see them doing that but I couldn't see them deciding to wipe and blame it on ogp in the first place. If things aren't as dire as Im worried about and I do stay the only things I would ever buy is maybe storage and I probably wouldn't for at least a year

Byrdman

bossykathy · October 2017

'There's a good number of OLD players who are going to return and give it a try, since PvP, and piracy mite be fixed. '

So then your prediction is that after a few weeks or months the only people left on the server will be pirates, pirating each other?

Oh and not forgetting the server wipe enthusiasts still sitting in Seville because they are too afraid to leave, but are now onto singing 'If I had a Hammer'

bossykathy · October 2017

Well Wendy I will give you a wave if I see you, or that rather rude looking rousing encouragement action I like so much :).

Or well..Vindy and kat will.

dsmack3 · October 2017

There seems like a small core of really dedicated and gung-ho players here. But most of the players who want to come back and resurrect the game are already here. People who quit aren't checking here and people who aren't committed aren't posting (it's so freaking hard to) and will be checking in to see if you've saved the game yet. People like me who say we're quitting but still hang around here really expect to quit but are hoping for a miracle.

You guys can do it but people like pierat are gonna make it harder for you. Every paying dollar the pirates chase off the server will have to be replaced out of their own and your own wallet. Every time they chases some one who would have invested in India is an extra investment you're gonna a have to make.

When the game first started there were a couple of thousand players working .. now maybe 200 plus all those pirates pierat is promising. You can do it but damn it's gonna be hard

Byrdman

WesDoobner · October 2017

If you really liked UWO in the past, you owe it to yourself to give the new game a shot, if for no other reason than to just burn up the boosters and free cash they gave you. Give them away if you don't want to play but at least log in and check things out. If you end up really enjoying do you want to come in from the start, or 3 months from now?

Lerxst · October 2017

Based on feedback from 100+ players on a certain Steam review I wrote (both in comments and PMs), there are 100+ players all looking, wanting and waiting to get back into this game. They were all fed up with it, over cash ship items, inflation and general abuse stacking the deck against everyone who wasn't a 7+ year vet.

The first few months, if you follow Steam Charts, shows this game as having over 1,000 players, which then dropped to a few hundred in a few months. This is corroborated by feedback I also received that stated how futile people felt it was to continue in the game world after they discovered how much of a disadvantage hey were at. Within the first few months on Steam, several people looked at the game, loaded it up, played it for a few weeks and then left after the reality of the game state struck them.

This is why I'm for the restart of this game with a server wipe, as long as Papaya does its homework and tries to market it to an audience. If it receives 0 marketing when they relaunch it, then it will be difficult for new players to find the game, or any of the old players to realize it was relaunched. if they DO get the word out, then everything you say in your post will be quite the opposite.

HanukkahHarry · October 2017

How about no I do not. I want the game to finally die as it would be better than to prolong something like this.

dsmack3 · October 2017

WesDoobner. I kinda get what you're saying. But using up the boosters and spending the cash (which we have no idea how much 10 papaya seeds or whatever will get us) is like kinda like catching your boss having an affair with his nanny and he fires you and makes you sign a severance package where you get a 5 dollar gift card at burger king. It's kinda insulting, and using the gift card kinda implies you are ok with it. (i don't wanna talk about it)

Byrdman

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