Poll: Coming back? Not coming back? Undecided? Post here!

FearTheWicketFearTheWicket Posts: 30Member Beginner
Hi folks,

 It's been a tough few days, but I hope you're all doing well. I wanted to take a few minutes to post a poll regarding the status of veteran players. Completely voluntary, so don't feel like this is a representative sample, as I know the vast majority of those who have left are already out the door.

Feel free to complete the poll with or without your name, and feel free to make use of the comments section at the bottom. This might serve to help each of us know what veterans are coming back, which ones we should give proper sendoffs to, etc.

The link to the poll is as follows:


As  for myself, I'm still undecided at this point. While I think it could be fun to rebuild, particularly if PP holds true to the statement about rebooting PvP/piracy/etc., the cost just might be too high for me, particularly given the game's longterm prognosis. So maybe getting some data and seeing what other folks are doing will help sway me. 

Cheers to you all, no matter what you decide it's been a pleasure, and to those who are departing, may the wind be at your back, always. o7

Caddy
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  • clemsonfanclemsonfan Posts: 142Member Trainee
    caddy i am not sure mate   the thought of losing all  that i have worked for is upseting. not to mention this troll faffnir  or whatever is pissing off lots of players   not sure why. i just dont know.   starting over   why should i

  • SUNDOGG97SUNDOGG97 Posts: 135Member Trainee
    So far, this company is still not talking to the community as far as I can see.

    I am looking at other games.

    It just the whole process from the way it was done, being done.

    They are not upfront with the information and they are not addressing the problems felt in the community already.

    This feels like they will never will listen to us.

    They have not make one statement here in the forum, I am willing to bet that some of the people at OG  are here Papaya

    Play the game or not, as the server wipers say.

    No one can say this is a good start.



    ConcernedTravelerGoosio
  • FearTheWicketFearTheWicket Posts: 30Member Beginner
    I feel the exact same, mates. I mean, the game is going to be literally broken for several months, even after it comes back, as we won't be able to use 90% of the content for a LONG TIME. Here's the major problems I see us encountering so far:

    Lack of port development
    Lack of capital to develop those ports or do fusion
    Lack of skilled persons (can't make gear, ships, etc.)
    Lack of EA goods to develop trade levels
    Lack of Shipbuilders and sb supplies
    Reduction to an already decimated playerbase
    Aging game with long grind period
    PvP will take a long time to develop
    Lack of NC ships (will we have them at all?)

    This is such a low blow, and I just don't know if I can start over again. I lost 700b worth of ships/cash/investments, but the worst thing about it is losing my maxed maritimer (complete with 90% of all land battle techs), my r20 alchemist, and my r20 SB/crafter. I'd rather lose all my stuff than have to grind that stuff over again, yet here we are. I just don't know if I have the drive to do it over again. 

    I suppose I will wait to see what they do with PvP and then make a decision. If they do truly reset that to NM-era rules, I could possibly get on board. If not, I just don't see the reason and don't see us lasting more than 6 months past relaunch (although I hope to be wrong about that).
    HUIBRO1jest11Mici92Goosiob15h09xibwizcrash941
  • HUIBRO1HUIBRO1 Posts: 23Member Beginner
    @FearTheWicket

    Hi, Caddy! I'm SBer and i wanted to say thank you for your SB guide! It was very helpful!
    And...i know right. I was R20 SBer 7N like many others.
    The grind was painful but i managed to be R20 (plundering SSB was painful as well XD)
    But server reset means 0 development for all towns and as you said there won't be skilled production masters that could make FS parts. And because players will be poor ship prices will collapse.
    The truth is you need to plunder SSB or get astro item to be R20, and to grind basic rank to R16 you will need patience and MONEY (even if we all are gonna be poor XD). Yeah, and rare item plunder needs oxford research, aide skill (grinding aide battle rank is pain as well) and of course good ship (barca sounds very good XDDDD) ect. BTW doing 7 nations again isn't so attractive for me because of aides and grind ect.

    So, shipbuilders will be very recognized job but veryveryvery hard job at the same time.

    P.S. you need tactics 7 for shipbuilder quest XD
    Mici92xibwizNourno
  • MoochiecatMoochiecat Posts: 18Member Beginner
    one question keeps me from playing.  What is going to stop another reset in a few years if things arentgoing right in the game?  If they can not right code to fix the economy and keep the game intact then how can they write it with a wipe?  same code is needed to fix the economy of the game with or without a wipe  OOPS 2 questions. 
    GoosioLeaFontaineOberrill
  • LyonesseJosephLyonesseJoseph Posts: 637Member Intermediate
    Caddy, I am completely agreed with you. It will take 4 or maybe 5 years before UWO will reach peak that's where OGP was. Yeah, PVP probably won't happen till few years before the players get better ships and mod their ship.

    Don't forget that many players won't able to get job quest or quests to unlock land area unless they develop Capital of SA ie needs archive maps. Of course, they will need to grind adv skills for long time ie Philosopher's Stone r13 appraisal that needs for Alchemist quest.
    Goosioxibwiz
  • IdsadarIdsadar Posts: 140Member Trainee
    Don t worry everyone....UWO don t need any of you.It s enough if FrozenRuby is gonna be there and everything will be allright :))
    Goosiob15h09xibwizSeperallis
  • aceman39aceman39 Posts: 943Member Intermediate
    Frozen with all her alts will make up the community of UWO we are just visiting in her eyes
    Goosiob15h09Idsadarxibwizcrash941Oberrill
  • InfamousKillaInfamousKilla Posts: 165Member Beginner
    KillaDub and his Infamous band of pirates will be back with a vengeance!!

    Look out!!!!'
    crash941Madcatz0543silentHbomb
  • ZodRauZodRau Posts: 44Member Beginner
    In lieu of a sticky function, or really much function all on this forum

    *bump*
  • alphamage777alphamage777 Posts: 5Member Beginner
    Totally done. Not even logging in for the "trinkets." And to all the mouthy gits saying "good riddance" etc, don't worry, I'm glad to see the backs of you aswell.
    Goosio
  • crash941crash941 Posts: 32Member Beginner
    well i dont think what they have done is right, but im already missing the game, i do feel sorry for all the people that spent real money and so many more years on the game than me, but i will be back, and when we do school at least we dont have to read it all. hope to see you all on the water asap
    peloisan
  • crash941crash941 Posts: 32Member Beginner
    well i dont think what they have done is right, but im already missing the game, i do feel sorry for all the people that spent real money and so many more years on the game than me, but i will be back, and when we do school at least we dont have to read it all. hope to see you all on the water asap
    peloisan
  • LaviolLaviol Posts: 193Member Trainee
    Wanted to thank you Caddy for your efforts for the past 8ish years and the help recently.
    I will be back pushing an underdog nation to rise up, Venice will be great.

    *Republic of Venice* look for it if you come back.
    IGN: Lavi
    Company: FUBB
    Nation: Ottoman
    Levels - 67 Adventure 87 Trade 78 Maritime
    7Nation SBer / Grader

  • HelloAllHelloAll Posts: 701Member Intermediate
    The first person to lose school chat is going to be a lonely soul in world chat xD

    There is no other games that appeal to me tho, it was this or nothing.

    I’m not in to all the shooting, spell casting type of games.

    But I enjoyed this one.

    Think I’ll give it a go, grind away, Get casting and make some cannons to kit out my grad ship and run BR’s

    At least it will feel quick to us compared to the newer ones :)

  • LyonesseJosephLyonesseJoseph Posts: 637Member Intermediate

    The polls are mixed ,but I think some players will change their miind to quit or join later which will depend on outcome of relaunch.

  • crazyhunter2003crazyhunter2003 Posts: 763Member Intermediate
    @HelloAll,unless WC goes back to pay to use,we will be able to use it long before losing school chat
    IGN:JackO'Neil
  • LeaFontaineLeaFontaine Posts: 10Member Beginner
    I have to say I am not yet decided.
    Since starting playing UWO in April 2013 I have never been away from it for more than a week and probably not more than 40 days  in total in those 4 1/2 years. I just loved the game and the community.

    At the moment I just feel very sad about the loss of all that I have been working for over such a long time and the loss of so many good and helpful people that made UWO such a nice community.

    Starting back from square 1 is very hard when you had 2 toons with maxed (=refined to meister) crafting skills. (Btw do we know yet whether we will be confined to 1 character or whether we can have 2 or 3 toons active same time? )
    Even harder when you consider that the world is not nearly as developed as i knew it. Harder yet when you have no idea how many of my friends might be back.
    Even harder  considering that Papaya may just drop the game after a year or 2 when they see they dont finde enough players spending real money in the game (due to the huge loss of trust caused by the server wipe).
    I just dont know yet whether i will have the heart to start again at square 1 when I have no idea whether it will all be lost again in a year or 2..

    Whatever OGP may have done wrong or not good enough in the past. When they started to host UWO they took it over from Netmarble as it was and didnt wipe the server. I have to say my trust in Papaya is very low atm.

    IGN: Jean_Dupleix
    GoosioMadcatz0543
  • CrzyPsycoChickCrzyPsycoChick Posts: 667Member Intermediate
    According to Caddy Poll Way more people will rejoin UWO after wipe see I told you guys. The vets of the game treat uwo like their baby they will never ever let it die.

    Come back guys we can't just quit because things didn't go the way we wanted it to. UWO needs us and we can do it the right way this time. Anyone can play uwo when it's easy but can you play when it's a challenge after the wipe.
    Madcatz0543BlueLily
  • crazyhunter2003crazyhunter2003 Posts: 763Member Intermediate
    @cpc,returning to play and returning to support $$$ are 2 different things
    Goosiojest11
    IGN:JackO'Neil
  • crazyhunter2003crazyhunter2003 Posts: 763Member Intermediate
    trust has been lost here
    Goosiojest11
    IGN:JackO'Neil
  • CrzyPsycoChickCrzyPsycoChick Posts: 667Member Intermediate
    @crazy I hear you they will just be considered free players that's fine.  As long as they are in the game rebuilding and interacting that's all that's really needed the money will follow from others and  especially maritimers who will return now that the game is balanced UWO is NOT dead!
    TheRealFaffnirMadcatz0543
  • GoosioGoosio Posts: 71Member Beginner
    Jean_Dupleix: Many of us feel exactly the same. Even some of those saying they'll stick around to see how the server relaunch goes, have also admitted to not being sure they'll stick around.

    If it helps, I've seen some of the people who are leaving on Facebook at the UWO fan group run by WalkerDePlank and others. If you ask to join it, even if it was just for a bit, you might be able to reconnect with and say hi to some of the friends you've made. I'm sure the friends you made are missing you, too.
  • shelleylshelleyl Posts: 90Member Beginner
    Thing is the only people that will see this poll are already registered here. I see less than 50 coming back for sure as it stands. You can't run a game like this with 50 people. After seeing the founders rewards, the tiers by level and the blatant lie that reveals, plus the open hostility towards us by some people here, Lug and I don't see a future here as it stands.
  • LyonesseJosephLyonesseJoseph Posts: 637Member Intermediate
    Thing is the only people that will see this poll are already registered here. I see less than 50 coming back for sure as it stands. You can't run a game like this with 50 people. After seeing the founders rewards, the tiers by level and the blatant lie that reveals, plus the open hostility towards us by some people here, Lug and I don't see a future here as it stands.

    Err I don't see anyone except FrozenRuby and pro-wipe ass players acts hostile toward you or Lugu. Anyway, I noticed there were a lot of players to sign up to join. I did see BWPanda and others ,but idk what are their plans, though.

    Are you talking about they blamed on OGP for loss database ?. yeah, they did give contradicted explanations about reset ,but I realized it was them because they mentioned technical difficult.
    krazybastid
  • SUNDOGG97SUNDOGG97 Posts: 135Member Trainee
    Those founder rewards change my view on it,which is why I voted other in the poll because things can change,I feel sad though for my avatar.

    I will probably play bc I hate giving up on a hard game. Still things I want to do.

    Still not the 18th yet.

    It would be bit of mad house for the next few months doing stuff all over again.



     
  • FearTheWicketFearTheWicket Posts: 30Member Beginner
    108 replies to the poll, interesting results. I do appreciate you guys for taking the time to vote.

    I intentionally let people pick more than one response, and I've scored those responses as positive, neutral, and negative as follows:

    Positives (49.6%):
    "I will definitely rejoin UWO. I want this change so bad!" - 10 votes
    "I will definitely rejoin UWO. I'm hardcore, man!" - 34 votes
    "I will probably rejoin UWO. ughhhh..." - 15 votes

    Neutrals (29.4%):
    "I am undecided at this point" - 18 votes
    "I will rejoin UWO, but damned if they're getting a cent from me" - 17 votes

    Negatives (21.0%):
    "I will not rejoin. Good luck guys, it's been fun!" - 21 votes 
    "I will not rejoin. The game is dead. Burn it to the ground!" - 4 votes

    It's important to note that this poll is likely very skewed in the positive direction, as many who have already left are likely not around to vote. And as such, the poll is unfortunately not a representative sample of how many players we have lost. But it can give a good impression of player attitudes about this change.

    For me, I am still uncertain. I love this game and want to see it do well, but the intangibles and adversities it will face are just so daunting that I don't know if I can do it again. Yeah, the astro package is nice, but regardless of how many astro items they give us, it will never be enough. 

    I think the trust is lost between game and it's players, and that is hard to restore, even with time. Where's the explanation of what happened to the character data? Who will spend money on a game that may well be undergoing the same process in 6 months? How do we know that Papaya has player interests in mind when making decisions that affect the game? What reassurances do we have that our progress won't just get wiped again, when Papaya decides people are too advanced and not spending enough money? These are some of the questions I have, and I'm sure many other players feel the same way. 
  • LaviolLaviol Posts: 193Member Trainee
    @FearTheWicket
    AKA Caddy

    I know you will make your own decision and I will respect that, but I know the Player base will need someone like you to guide them, even if your doing the exact same trade runs as a new player and they don't really know who you are, they will need you to guide them. this is daunting the tasks we will have in front of us, heck I am choosing to start Venetian.. because I know not many will and we need those ports developed.

    So Caddy, I am challenging you to come back, not only lurk but be that voice you have been before so that those who still love the game can get it back to where it was hopefully in record time. I know 7N RR20 SBer was a daunting task. and this go around it will be even more daunting because where will you start, which nation will be the strongest. the weakest. when will you have enough fame to change.
    Or will you not become a SBer this go around and focus on other jobs. What would Caddy do?


    Also I haven't seen Buffet. Is he/she kicking around here, buffet was a investing guru and I hope returns so we can get this development underway.
    IGN: Lavi
    Company: FUBB
    Nation: Ottoman
    Levels - 67 Adventure 87 Trade 78 Maritime
    7Nation SBer / Grader

  • CrzyPsycoChickCrzyPsycoChick Posts: 667Member Intermediate
    @Caddy all valid questions but you have to return you saying you will come back will encourage many others to as well. Also you haven't chosen and trained apprentice to continue on your style of shipbuilding you should at least stay to do that before you go. 

    Thing is I don't trust game comps either and they all screwed us at some point but we don't play for the provider we play for us. The way I feel now is we all we got at this point... Each other.  We know they screwed us but as long as you guys are here I'll be back until real life prevents it. 

    Don't leave because of the providers stay for the community and the game 

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