You guys really think they are giving something to anyone?? The founders Reward its just crap - plain simple crap. Whats the use of Expanded Ship holds or any FS parts... since there is no shipbuilders???
And by experience... there wont be any for the next... 2 - 3 months? (SB20 ofc). Not even gonna talk about 7 Nations SB... that will take even longer...
So... they fck the community... throw in a HUGE pile of crap... and expect "Veterans" to start all over???
The endless hours grinding SB... Maritime skills... Row....
FU PAPAYA, you can all shuve ur founders reward where the sun doesnt shine....
Guys...let s have some pacience for a bit..i have a feeling that maybe the game won t be reset completely to 0. It s just a feeling.
Like you said,many of this rewards are useless for months if they reset all to 0....so i m thinking that not everyone in that company are ”gone with the wind” and maybe they allready tought that without the old,experienced players the game can t go further and they can t get any money if the game dies 2 weeks after the relaunch.
So..i think that they will do something to ashure that the game will have a chance to live for some time.
People told you to grind skills because that is what matters, no one had any idea what was about to happen with the relaunch by papaya. This just goes to show how much papaya really understands the game....they should have had another reward on skills. Such as if you has 1 skill max.. or 3 skills max.. or 5. Or 10. And had a certain for each. They dont understand the content or time spent in it.
Maybe they don t know the game....but if they don t know the game why make changes? They should be really stupid to do some changes in the game without knewing it wery well.
So i think that maybe they have in their team someone from OGP...or someone who really knows the game..just maybe.
But that whould be a god thing.Because if they have someone with exp,than they will know what to do to balance the game,to make it attractive for the old and new players and they will do something to keep as much player they can in the game if they want to make some money and the game to be online for a long time.
So...the first step was allready made with this prizez...even if for some players is not enough because they lost way more than this prizes can cover.
But i still hope they have someone in there with exp.You don t invest money in some game to ruin him even before you relaunch him.
That s why i think we may have a surprize when the game start.And maybe some others who still dream at a total reset :)
@idsasar I will use an analogy for you. I am papayaplay and i take old cars and rebuild them, i have rebuilt 3-4 old american cars (chev, ford,dodge)so i feel like i know what i am doing so then a Japanese car gets put on the market for sale, and i think sweet, i will just do exactly the same things i did with my other cars and it will turn out great!
PapayaPlay has reset 2 of their games now and i am not 100%sure on there status but they are still open so i will say they had success but reseting a rpgmmo and reseting UWO are 2 very different things.. a typical rpg you go back and grind levels and buy better gear. The end. UWO being much more in depth with so many aspects is unlike any other mmo out there and that is why you all keep playing it. A complete server wipe will take us back to day 1 8 years ago. 0 investments 0 development. Most of the players dont ubderstand that.. when most started development in europe was already maxxed. We were developing the carrib and india when most started.
You said you will be nanbaning withing a week. How do you plan to do this, because you will need to raise fame enough to unlock port permits before you can even attempt to go there. Then you will need to open canals which i believe require development. And your sail time to SEA or EA will be hours.. not minutes like before.. i would love to see you tactic for this if you really believe 1 week to gst to nanban
You said you will be nanbaning withing a week. How do you plan to do this, because you will need to raise fame enough to unlock port permits before you can even attempt to go there. Then you will need to open canals which i believe require development. And your sail time to SEA or EA will be hours.. not minutes like before.. i would love to see you tactic for this if you really believe 1 week to gst to nanban
It's not hard to unlock Nanban within a week or so since you can do BR to get 30k fame or so with fame boost. However, I admit that it's impossible for players to do Nanban trading because many players don't have large size cargo ships atm. Unless you're lucky to win UWC ships, I think Caribbean, India, or SEA is better choice for trading atm.
As for me, I can complete all Beginner schools and Intermediate adv school with 2 hours or so then I will able to do BR with Memorial Cruise Sloop.
I hope I can take East Coast of Latin America then SEA quest on 2nd day.
Then taking West Coast of Latin America on 3rd day because it's require you to unlock Panama and Portobelo for Panama Canal quest ,so I will have to sail back after I report to a leader @ Palace for WCLA permit. Then take Panama Canal quest @ Santiago.
Finally, I will able to take Suez Canal quest then East Asia quest since Suez Canal won't take long to complete.
IIRC, SF is last permit that you need to talk to Mercator twice to get West Coast of North America permit then have charting Ligurian Sea.before you can take SF quest at Marseilles Adv GM.
before you can unlock SEA and west/east coast Latin America your entire nation will have to do enough IQs to unlock it. not just you doing 1 IQ and its open. this is the issue.
I will be focusing on EU ports in particular Mediterranean so we can use them effectively. Game Progress > Personal Progression
No they shouldn't of wiped the server but I got a feeling Gama is out there somwhere don't give up that easy. I mite come back to UWO but my frequency of playng won't be that often. I'm still making phone calls im getting my charecters if i have to store them on my 52 Gigabite USB disk. Im getting my charecters somehow
@krazy That's the spirit. If you succeed, let me know; I'd love to keep my characters around in a personal storage device too!
Somebody mentioned Atlantis. The steps to reach it required a fully developed game server. You had to:
1. Graduate Intermediate School 2. Begin World Atlas and chart North Sea 3. Discover Knossos Palace (R6 Recognition, R8 Archaeology, R4 Theology) 4. Open Port Permits up through East Asia (remember, total reset of player progress = Imperial Quests need to be done to reopen the world, starting in E.Coast of LATAM and moving on from there) 5. Begin Land Charting from Oxford (West Candia/Inner Crete required)
That was just to get started. The Atlantis chains to reach it took one all over the world; Adventure could not be completed without first finding Xanadu (60+ quests as I recall, many of which needed high discovery skill levels), Trade needed EA access, Battle required ship battles, though at least some of them you could lose and the game would still advance.
Then you had to do weekly quests like Imperial Quests which built up access/benefits to Atlantis. And there's really not much there if you don't have high battle levels and good equipment to deal with the enemies running around in the dungeons, other than the mysterious research items (which also were hard to get good rewards from unless you did a lot of things that called for high levels).
Still, Atlantis was removed from the game as of the Age of Revolution, and it's only supposed to return for one month at a time, at unknown/random intervals. Had the server not been closed down and we kept following Asian server models, it would've returned this month... who knows if or when it'll show up again in a Papaya run server, though.
@shelleyl, My IGN for the toon that was in your company was Vester Vanderbeek. I was removed from the company due to lack of attendance. My wife wanted to play some other games, so I was not in the game for a few months. After I came back, I did not join a company. I will try to get on the same server as you two. Maybe we will see each other some time. Best wishes.
Looks like I'll get level 4 rewards on my main account and level 3 on my other. Not too shabby. It won't make up for what I lost by far, but it's good head start to get a character going, plus all the school bonuses and boosters. We should be able to get leveled up pretty quick.
You will not lvl up pretty quick... let me make a quick draw of events.... We all finish schools... we all get low lvl ships that are plain crap... and then u try to lvl up enough... and u shout in WC... Need an SB for a SY shipbuild... and you shout... and shout... and shout... then you realize... there are NO SB's ON THE FCKING SERVER.... and if there is any... be prepared to pay... 200 - 300M per ships..... low lvl ships...
Gratz to papaya for killing a reasonable game before it even launches...
I plan to grind sb and build my own ships asap, until then the memorial ships you get from school, plus all the boosters you get for going to school will be sufficient. It's a reduced game, so we have to adapt to it until it grows to what it was before, if that ever happens.
We don't really need ppl to build ships right out the gate tbh school ships are basically better all the way up until TLG BTC levels.
My prediction nobody will have an Uber OP ship as nobody will be around to mod it even if they sell cash ships. If they do offer cash ships people will sell in game.
Basically what's I'm saying is you don't "need" high level mods as no one else has high level mods lol.
Although there are some... Loopholes to getting cool skills on ships and stats using fusion even with low levels a G3 FS built light and medium ship don't cost a lot at all to fuse and don't require high levels of SB . Don't sleep on these ships as they will be the ships of choice next to school ships.
Do you REALLY need a G6 Victory when we all in xebecs and school ships lol. The wipe is bad but this we can't find SBers issue is not that bad at least not at first.
Shoot I WISH they were paying me lol. Nah I was a R20 sber I probably cried and moaned the most about the grind than anyone else lol
I know shipbuilding that's why I say it's not that bad not at first when we do get back to heavy ships I think SBers will be R20 by then I think. The problem I don't look forward to is rebuilding the colony and finding techs now THAT will suck the most.
Either way as long as we got the knowledge we can overcome. I know you mad and if you done I can't blame you but for every challenge Papaya and OGP put in our way I already know how to get around it due to experience.
Knowledge is power baby not ships and money. You make the player not the material items.
There is no Knowledge... wanna know why? cause the Old dinossaurs then know how things work and are done... wont be playing... So... where's the knowledge? on the new player Papaya is trying to get here?? GL on that...
Also read caddy poll forum a lot more people said they are returning to the game than leaving something like 75% of ppl saying they returning 25% not( I was shocked by these results ) ... Also Walker said she has all guides we wrote on OGP and posted the link.
It's one CRAPPY situation but if we pull together we can get through even if I have to hold your hand and guide you myself kicking and screaming we will get through it lol
UWO players can grind SBing for 7months...to say we're resilient is an understatement.
be fair. it is 49% returning. 25% unsure 25% not. The poll is also skewed to the players returning because they are still here waiting. Many that have moved on have not even found this forum. Several of my company members were affected by the Hurricanes just before the shut down and have no idea of where the game went.
One suggestion for papaya might be to buy the old web addresses of OGP and re-direct the traffic here or to the game site. If you google UWO it still lists OGP at the top of the lists...
That's a total of 147 people. Let's take out the undecided because they don't know yet so that makes the total now 126
98 Returning out of 126 is 77.6%
THAT'S DAMN GOOD.
Also I feel why even do a poll if we are just going to dismiss the results right? We have to take it for what it is... If it's the latter then we shouldn't do any polls at all right? lol
before you can unlock SEA and west/east coast Latin America your entire nation will have to do enough IQs to unlock it. not just you doing 1 IQ and its open. this is the issue.
No, this will be fine because I did with new toons before OGP shut down. Oh wait I did have MBTC with me ,but i think I will manage to unlock Nanban with a week anyway. However, I think it will take 2 days to complete WCLA then Panama Canal because I will have to sail back to Europe to unlock WCLA then sail back to WCLA to unlock Panama then sail to Santiago for Panama Canal quest.
So how is 126 players going to carry the server?? That is less than OGP had and they didn't survive. If Papaya only gets 200 consistent players, they failed unless those 200 are big money. I would not be happy with only 126 returning, because there will likely be those who are just checking it out or a month or so.
Yes you are correct. I was reading the poll from when there were only 108 replies.
108 replies to the poll, interesting results. I do appreciate you guys for taking the time to vote.
Positives (49.6%):
"I will definitely rejoin UWO. I want this change so bad!" - 10 votes
"I will definitely rejoin UWO. I'm hardcore, man!" - 34 votes
"I will probably rejoin UWO. ughhhh..." - 15 votes
Neutrals (29.4%):
"I am undecided at this point" - 18 votes
"I will rejoin UWO, but damned if they're getting a cent from me" - 17 votes
Negatives (21.0%):
"I will not rejoin. Good luck guys, it's been fun!" - 21 votes
"I will not rejoin. The game is dead. Burn it to the ground!" - 4 votes
After that, the Founder's rewards were posted and a lot more players were swayed
to playing. +38 playing, +3 Not playing.
I have been moved from the Not playing to the undecided camp.
I connected to UWO from Steam and have had no reply from Papaya yet as to whether they will address this issue and we (I) will also get the Founder's starting pack.
It's not that 126 people are only returning its the % of people polled. 77.6 % of people polled are returning using this data we can make A Fair guesstimate of how much of the Entire server will return or not based on these results.
For example let's say GAMA has 1k players 77.6% returning would equal 776 players returning out of "decided" players. And 22.4% are calling it quits that equates to 224 decided players are leaving roughly 1/4 THAT'S ALOT but not more than 77.6 almost 3/4 returning.
Now let's factor in undecided...they can go either way so let's add them to both results and see what we get
If the undecided all vote return that's 80.9% returning... good
If the undecided all vote no thats 33% Not returning and 66 Returning... 1/3 leaving is bad but retain almost 70% is still decent
MOST LIKELY: If the undecided split yes and no
73% will return and 27% will leave about 1/4th leaving still bad but the retention is good.
Now I know there is a margin for error but those results above pretty much tell how it will go in the end... Survey says in the end UWO WILL retain ALOT more players than it loses. I rather not lose any but it is what it is not enough players will leave to collapse the server men lie women lie... Numbers don't lie
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Your sending them to the UK?
Great I’ll have yours then :D
People told you to grind skills because that is what matters, no one had any idea what was about to happen with the relaunch by papaya. This just goes to show how much papaya really understands the game....they should have had another reward on skills. Such as if you has 1 skill max.. or 3 skills max.. or 5. Or 10. And had a certain for each. They dont understand the content or time spent in it.
Company: FUBB
Nation: Ottoman
Levels - 67 Adventure 87 Trade 78 Maritime
7Nation SBer / Grader
I will use an analogy for you.
I am papayaplay and i take old cars and rebuild them, i have rebuilt 3-4 old american cars (chev, ford,dodge)so i feel like i know what i am doing so then a Japanese car gets put on the market for sale, and i think sweet, i will just do exactly the same things i did with my other cars and it will turn out great!
PapayaPlay has reset 2 of their games now and i am not 100%sure on there status but they are still open so i will say they had success but reseting a rpgmmo and reseting UWO are 2 very different things.. a typical rpg you go back and grind levels and buy better gear. The end.
UWO being much more in depth with so many aspects is unlike any other mmo out there and that is why you all keep playing it. A complete server wipe will take us back to day 1 8 years ago. 0 investments 0 development. Most of the players dont ubderstand that.. when most started development in europe was already maxxed. We were developing the carrib and india when most started.
@LJ
You said you will be nanbaning withing a week.
How do you plan to do this, because you will need to raise fame enough to unlock port permits before you can even attempt to go there. Then you will need to open canals which i believe require development. And your sail time to SEA or EA will be hours.. not minutes like before.. i would love to see you tactic for this if you really believe 1 week to gst to nanban
Company: FUBB
Nation: Ottoman
Levels - 67 Adventure 87 Trade 78 Maritime
7Nation SBer / Grader
How do you plan to do this, because you will need to raise fame enough to unlock port permits before you can even attempt to go there. Then you will need to open canals which i believe require development. And your sail time to SEA or EA will be hours.. not minutes like before.. i would love to see you tactic for this if you really believe 1 week to gst to nanban
before you can unlock SEA and west/east coast Latin America your entire nation will have to do enough IQs to unlock it. not just you doing 1 IQ and its open. this is the issue.
I will be focusing on EU ports in particular Mediterranean so we can use them effectively.
Game Progress > Personal Progression
Company: FUBB
Nation: Ottoman
Levels - 67 Adventure 87 Trade 78 Maritime
7Nation SBer / Grader
Somebody mentioned Atlantis. The steps to reach it required a fully developed game server. You had to:
1. Graduate Intermediate School
2. Begin World Atlas and chart North Sea
3. Discover Knossos Palace (R6 Recognition, R8 Archaeology, R4 Theology)
4. Open Port Permits up through East Asia (remember, total reset of player progress = Imperial Quests need to be done to reopen the world, starting in E.Coast of LATAM and moving on from there)
5. Begin Land Charting from Oxford (West Candia/Inner Crete required)
That was just to get started. The Atlantis chains to reach it took one all over the world; Adventure could not be completed without first finding Xanadu (60+ quests as I recall, many of which needed high discovery skill levels), Trade needed EA access, Battle required ship battles, though at least some of them you could lose and the game would still advance.
Then you had to do weekly quests like Imperial Quests which built up access/benefits to Atlantis. And there's really not much there if you don't have high battle levels and good equipment to deal with the enemies running around in the dungeons, other than the mysterious research items (which also were hard to get good rewards from unless you did a lot of things that called for high levels).
Still, Atlantis was removed from the game as of the Age of Revolution, and it's only supposed to return for one month at a time, at unknown/random intervals. Had the server not been closed down and we kept following Asian server models, it would've returned this month... who knows if or when it'll show up again in a Papaya run server, though.
My IGN for the toon that was in your company was Vester Vanderbeek. I was removed from the company due to lack of attendance. My wife wanted to play some other games, so I was not in the game for a few months. After I came back, I did not join a company.
I will try to get on the same server as you two. Maybe we will see each other some time. Best wishes.
before you can unlock SEA and west/east coast Latin America your entire nation will have to do enough IQs to unlock it. not just you doing 1 IQ and its open. this is the issue.
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