A Challenge

WesDoobner · October 2017

Just curious how everyone else feels, but when I used to play Uncharted Waters 2 New Horizons on my computer I always got the urge to start over eventually, because I always felt there was something I could do better, or advance faster somehow. Not sure if anyone else even played that game, or felt that way. When I started playing UWO I did have that urge sometimes, but there was just too many disadvantages to totally starting over for me to ever abandon my first main character, so I settled for "starting over" by having a few alts. Now that the whole server is going to be wiped, and we have no choice but to start over totally from scratch (with boosters of course), I think it presents some interesting challenges. Such as:

1. Everyone will be starting over at the same time, so it will be interesting to see if the old guys, 5 to 7 year players, can advance faster than some of us newer guys.

2. I know I can always do better when I start over because I can avoid mistakes I've made before. With everyone able to do that, things may advance pretty quickly.

3. Won't we be starting in the age of industry? No more waiting years for the east asia ports to be added in updates? Still have all the cool new stuff like immigration tickets and rewards for the colonies plus SY3?

4. I've played for less that 2 years, and I think with this wipe I will probably be one of the top players soon and I dare some of the old guys to top me! This is WesDoobner issuing the challenge!

I understand the adventure guys not wanting to have to make a zillion discoveries all over again, but if you start playing and pick up a lot along the way, you may get re-energized. I didn't have as much stuff as some people, but I just got a top tier battleship - AFCV with 1456 dura, 221 crew 8/8 with APN, melee support and improved gunport, plus I had 15 bil and some other nice ships, probably 6 good astro ships and another 5 or 6 tickets for ships, wanderers wear, etc. It blows losing all that stuff, but it's only a game, and I don't need that stuff for now if nobody else has it. In fact I'm a little better off because even though I had good stuff, other people had better than I could ever get. I'm going to make the best of this and enjoy as much as possible while it lasts.

pieratthe · October 2017

what's the challenge? first one to hit maritime battle cap :D

aceman39 · October 2017

I was never good at raising mari or adventure as I did more trading then anything to try and build up my money to buy stuff needed to sew and raise sewing

WesDoobner · October 2017

just hitting the maritime cap would be too easy. The challenge is to be a total all around sailing badass - you'll know when you get there!

aceman39 · October 2017

I was like 37 adv 58 trader and 32 mari before the wipe

pieratthe · October 2017

I'll consider myself a badass soon as i graduate all schools :D i win :D

WesDoobner · October 2017

I think you'll advance even more quickly this time, but you have to get the skills too. It's a complex picture to make up a master ship's captain.

aceman39 · October 2017

I had ballistic and some of the core skills and also swordplay and sword master

WesDoobner · October 2017

Yeah, I was at around 58/69/62 or so, most of my skills were at 8 to 10, sb was at 15, fishing 16. It'll take a while to get back there, but I'm going to really focus this time and not mess around with things that don't help much.

aceman39 · October 2017

My SBer got to R7 fast after I got the sb job and I was r2 when I got the job and jumped to r7 in a day and a half

lefox271 · October 2017

I'd been playing for 12 months, my main was 54/ 56/ 24. And yeah when I started an Alt it was fun going through all those noob stages.

But ... and this is a big BUT. It wasn't like really starting from scratch because my main was there to speed it up. It was fun because it was so quick!

With my main I reckon 30-50% of those 56 trade levels were made with the help of others. I remember when I was about level 15 someone came up to me in London market and gave me 7 mil worth of EA goods. It got me to +20 immediately. My company built a ship with a galley for me, and later one with a workshop. That's how I got to be an artificer so quickly. I got through the event quest thanks to an AoS I was given, and I had to buy one for my Alt. I levelled my Alt's trade with Rubies and later EA goods - all produced by my main.

I think it's easy to overlook how important the ESTABLISHED community is to a game where literally everything you do depends on doing something else first.

So starting again - when everyone is also starting again - is going to be a completely different thing.

seapiratedeluxe · October 2017

When i first started UWO i got lucky and this player hm11 who had very poor english but was able to communicate. Its because of him i thrived in UWO, i took his knowledge and passed it on to others. This hm11 guy taught me EVERYTHING.

Just from his advice alone i was quickly able to learn and start teaching others within weeks of first playing UWO.

This lead to me being recruited by netmarble to become GA.

The effect you can have on your nations success in this game is like no other! It may slow down my own personal progress spending much time helping others learn but the reward is well worth the effort in the long run. HM11 knew this day 1 and planted the seed of knowledge.

Airhaun · October 2017

@WesDoobner

This is my perspective as well.

pieratthe · October 2017

what was a GA?

aceman39 · October 2017

Game Admin that was a player in NM days

theedgedemon · October 2017

@WesDoobner 3. Won't we be starting in the age of industry? No more waiting years for the east asia ports to be added in updates? Still have all the cool new stuff like immigration tickets and rewards for the colonies plus SY3?

I see you are truly young so let me illustrate you:

for you young ones unlocking East Coast of Latin America, SEA, Panama, Suez, and eventually EA only took one Imperial quest each.

but that is only because you stood on the shoulders of giants... namely "us" the old generation, there is a reason there is a message when each of those is unlocked and that is because each imperial quest was originally a long grind of the same imperial quests over and over until your nation got enough points to unlock that permit, and only then did each player of said nation unlock with only one additional Imperial quest.... that was FOR EACH NATION FOR EACH PERMIT.

theedgedemon · October 2017

so you want a challenge take that one, make your country the first to reach EA...

poor Venetians...

SUNDOGG97 · October 2017

So the Challenge is a bad ass?
Here we go with the ultra competitive of this game.
We will be putting in long hours for sure, I know it. That will be the challenge.lol

crazyhunter2003 · October 2017

coffee,plenty of coffee

aceman39 · October 2017

Plenty of soda

crazyhunter2003 · October 2017

caffienne

aceman39 · October 2017

Lots of caffienne

WesDoobner · October 2017

Giant theedgedemon - but wasn't it true that many ports that we are used to were not available for years because the game code had not been added yet? And it is present now?

pieratthe · October 2017

yes the game wasn't as big when it started as it is nows, if memory servers, it went calicut = furthest, then SEA, then EA.

crazyhunter2003 · October 2017

so,basically we do not know exactly what will or will not be in game.we wont know until launch

any talk of content is pure speculation

aceman39 · October 2017

Gives us something to look forward to and maybe they will go beyond our expectations or not we can hope though

crazyhunter2003 · October 2017

hope for the best,but expect the worst,you will never be disappointed

Lerxst · October 2017

@Lefox271 I'm an old-term player (not to be confused with long-time player). My account started the month after UWO hit the NA market and i played for a sold 8 months after that.

I remember the announcements that "Such and such nation discovered India" when I started. Yes... India. Nations had to unlock regions of the globe, as a nation. After your nation accrued the points to unlock them, all a player needed to do was a single quest.

Unlocking those ports took a nation's worth of players, several week and even months. If UWO starts from that level again, all this talk of bad-assery will go right out the window; without all the EA goods to trade, no one will be making millions in minutes or power-leveling Trade in one go.

Even if those ports are available for each nation at the start. it will still take a player having to grind the appropriate quests to personally unlock them. Then, to make a profit off the trip, a player would have to have the skills needed to trade and sail.... safely. Those skills would take time to grind.

People also familiar and used to the "modern" way of grinding in the game will be in for a very rude awakening when they realize that 90% of the specialized gear they bout off a player or were loaned by a company member, won't yet be available since no one would have explored enough to find it, and those that did aren't just going to giving that stuff away in the market. I forget the name of the equipment, but Shipbuilding was one skill that hugely benefited from that equipment, or else, it was a very long and expensive grind.

Which brings us to cost. Skills can be gained naturally in the game, by doing what you can. when you can,. as you can afford to. Few crafting skills actually produce profits for the player, unless they are willing to hold their goods and slowly sell them on the bazaar, which takes time - they then may provide some income, but not large chunks. This leaves forking out millions and millions of ducats to level skills all at once... and there simply won't be enough money yet in the game to support that type of skill grinding.

Depending on how it's revamped, you also have PvP pirates that will actually be the same levels, sailing the same waters as the traders. This will make trading life more of a challenge as the pirates will be there, but they also won't be able to out-spend them via trading billions of ducats worth of goods

So you are right in assuming that this will be a completely different game than most people are used to playing!! And, i said it for years now - this is the only thing that would bring me back to this game!

crazyhunter2003 · October 2017

Lerxst,pray tell,how nations unlocked India,since there are no Imperial Quests for it?

Lerxst · October 2017

@crazyhunter2003 I played this game... 7+ years ago at that stage. Fine, my memory could be wrong and it may have been more along the lines of "Holy shit! You made it to India first?! Congrats!!!" among my 50 or so person Company, but the fact that an event like that was even a reason to celebrate, tells you what the game was like then.

The rest still stands and my point remains, though. This game will be a 180 shift form the game newer (less than 7 years ago) have ever experienced, if the server starts from that phase. And I said, even if that is not the case and all regions are open, the game will still be vastly different.

seapiratedeluxe · October 2017

Before you go out to Calicut make sure you have either 50 beer OR a few
tributes in hand (3 or more to be safe) To unlock SEA go to Calicut and
talk to your Nation's Consult (they are all in the harbor of Calicut).
Take the quest that tells you to go to 'Island of Sumatra Southwest
Coast' and deliver either 50 beer or tributes. (You MUST have these in
hand, so make sure you have them before making your voyage to Calicut.
Sail to 'Sumatra Southwest Coast' and deliver the items. Sail back to
Calicut turn in completed quest. Then sail back to Europe,(Tip: It is
best to go discover Suez while you're on that side, as if you have not,
it will make your trip much longer. Discover Suez if you are able to)
go to your Palace and you'll receive the SEA port permit.

A Challenge

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