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Positive side to the return of piracy!

pieratthepieratthe Posts: 419Member Intermediate
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I always said if piracy returns that i would stay outta merc chat.  Well since my knowledge will be needed i can't quite keep that promise, but i promise i won't be do any trolling or "crying" as it was refered too. :D

....I'll be to busy grinding or plundering :D
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  • aceman39aceman39 Posts: 943Member Intermediate
    Glad I don't use Merch chat for anything other then asking what something cost
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  • crazyhunter2003crazyhunter2003 Posts: 763Member Intermediate
    it all remains to be seen
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  • LaviolLaviol Posts: 193Member Trainee
    Merch chat is seriusly the actual world chat. Seems everyone was on that. That would actually talk anyways.
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  • ZimXeroZimXero Posts: 190Member Trainee
    It should be easy for experienced pirates to plunder everything out of the player base in the early days.  They will be able to predict everyones patterns on the seas as they trade, grind skills, and unlock mandatory stuff.  On top of that... i assume there will be no Fine Tributes laying around.  Pirates without jobs are likely to prioritize Plunder skill higher than a part-time player will prioritize Storage grinding.  If pirates are blessed with the power to strip ships entire inventories in one hit... its gonna be a one-way ticket to the top of the class for any pirate who uses their wealth to resell and command the marketplace. 
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  • ZimXeroZimXero Posts: 190Member Trainee
    On a side note... I hope there is going to be game company protection against auctioning pirated and reseller items offline for cash.  If they just pay lip service to prohibiting it... this will become a game ruled by a mafia type class of foreign gold sellers.
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  • pieratthepieratthe Posts: 419Member Intermediate
    Yea not sure any pirate plunder'd an item, went to a no-name website and tried to sell the stuff they got.  I know i would offer it back to the person at a discount to the normal price for quick payday, if they were too upset or mad to get their stuff back, i stored it til seville.

    You are right thou, i forsee several peeps grinding hard first 2 weeks, then sailing around carib/las palmas just waiting on peeps.  Me i'm more interested in getting the game back on its feet, but being who i am i will have no choice but to excel in maritime to protect myself :D
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  • HeavyWaterHeavyWater Posts: 138Member Trainee
    All chat used to be much better than merchant for questions, until it got toxic due to certain people.
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  • aceman39aceman39 Posts: 943Member Intermediate
    And when you did try to ask questions sometimes they would ignore them
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  • HeavyWaterHeavyWater Posts: 138Member Trainee
    Mm
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  • danhm001danhm001 Posts: 59Member Beginner
    players should not have the chance to lost everything in one plunder........% of lose an item...and maybe u can choose what to give to enemy.....there items of Millions...maybe billions...and lose it in 10 segs that a fight might last....

    no....that would make all players to stay in safe waters....and not developing the world....
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  • HeavyWaterHeavyWater Posts: 138Member Trainee
    I don't care either way about the return of item plunder, but I do strongly hope that pillage orders do not return to what they were.
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  • aceman39aceman39 Posts: 943Member Intermediate
    From what I seen some people want them back
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  • HelloAllHelloAll Posts: 701Member Intermediate
    People wouldn’t stay in safe waters. Pirate encounters are rare.

    Plus people are greedy.

    Let’s remember it’s pixels...we just lost EVERYTHING yet we are returning. One pirate encounter won’t spoil someone’s game.

    Also it seems to be the spice traders and nanban trader that are the most upset by the pirates in game....but they happily sell their goods in a a bazaar for what x200 or something the price they paid?!
    Day light robbery much?
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  • aceman39aceman39 Posts: 943Member Intermediate
    You say people are greedy. They sell the stuff to make ducats. So people are greedy that means pirates also right since they want to rob everyone of their inventory
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  • danhm001danhm001 Posts: 59Member Beginner
    believe me i stayed in safe waters almost 90% of the time in my previous uwo life......and if u only use one char.....or toon or whatever is a very bad move....... (dont tell me the solution its to maker another account....cuz for me thats cheating
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  • aceman39aceman39 Posts: 943Member Intermediate
    I was in safe waters unless I really needed to leave it for something like grinding sewing and I used nanban to sell in market to make money so I could get ships and stuff to grind skills. If that means I am greedy then I guess I am
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  • HelloAllHelloAll Posts: 701Member Intermediate
    I don’t do it for the ducats or the items. I do it for the buzz.
    You earn nothing as a pirate, maybe it will change now, but I’ll prob return most goods.
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  • aceman39aceman39 Posts: 943Member Intermediate
    No offense but I Heard many pirates say that and merchants when they make ducats they can invest in the towns to help them develop
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  • HelloAllHelloAll Posts: 701Member Intermediate
    I don’t understand your point?
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  • aceman39aceman39 Posts: 943Member Intermediate
    The point is if a player makes money then they might as well not play because they have to pay for sailors and supplies and investing in towns and buy ships.
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  • danhm001danhm001 Posts: 59Member Beginner
    if pirate that agressive its coming back...there sould be a rebalance on ship speeds
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  • HelloAllHelloAll Posts: 701Member Intermediate
    That doesn’t make sense aceman.
    could it be that your desire to reply to every post every second of the days means sometimes you don’t actually have anything positive to add?
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  • aceman39aceman39 Posts: 943Member Intermediate
    You made a statement and I replied and I don't answer every post but since you want to be a pirate you believe everyone should have all their stuff taken by pirates and you stated before plunder orders need to return. You and some others act like we should just get robbed by you guys and not enjoy our game and then you all get upset when no one agrees with your view and then wonder why people don't sail to unsafe waters or quit. I was there in Net Marble days and pillage orders was abused as was DB knowing the merchant people could not win and would lose valuable stuff that was in their inventory
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  • HelloAllHelloAll Posts: 701Member Intermediate
    Please repost where I said anything about plunder order!

    Please repost where I have said I want it to be unfair and imbalanced in flavour of pirates!

    Once you look through all of my post and threads and realise that each and every time I have called for a fair balance that favours all....then you can come back on here to apologise to me.

    I don’t care how long someone has played, the dramatic over the top fear of pirates is unnecessary.

    Also this is a pro pirate thread so take that your moans about pirates to another one please.
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  • IdsadarIdsadar Posts: 140Member Trainee
    People...try not to argue every day over the same reason.Each one of you have a point.Every one in this game need a balance so the game can be fun for the pirates,traders,adv.
    The pirates need to think about the needs of other players and viceversa.
    There should be a balance in the game so nobody can abuse anyone,so we can have a healty game for a long time.
    You don t have to fight everyone every day....at the end of the day it all comes to what will Papaya decide to do in this game.
    We can t do anything except trying to live together,play together and work together to bring this game up again.
    No point of making enemies every day because we can t do anything we whould want to this game,we don t own this game,only Papaya does right now. So wait untill the relaunch and we will see what s gonna be.
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  • lefox271lefox271 Posts: 495Member Intermediate
    Piracy is theft.

    You can spin it however you like. Game mechanics; play style; rules. However you look at it, taking stuff from other players is stealing.

    I'm just not cool with that.

    I'm glad the pirates are pleased things might be changing. I respect their right to play whatever role they choose in the game. (Please note my positive comment here which means I'm allowed to post on this thread).

    But just 'cos you can do it - it doesn't make it right.

    One of the first things I'll be doing is working to get back to my R19 Storage Meister. I don't mind pirating up to a point - I'm not really affected by you grinding your notoriety on me. Having you around adds some risk to high sea voyages - and yeah that adds to the fun for me as a trader.

    But if I find my storage skill isn't stacking-up against your plunder skill; or I'm getting beat-up every time I round a cape; or having my stuff stolen is affecting my enjoyment of the game - well then I'll just walk.

    Now you can call this moaning if you like; but if you do you're not really listening to what I'm saying. 'Cos for me this is NOT just about gaming - it's to do with real life and how we treat each other.

    Or you can call me weak for not fighting back. But I reckon there are many ways of being strong.

    There is so much about UWO I love; but if I'm not feeling cool about the piracy situation then this ain't the game for me.

    So yeah, all you pirates out there - please keep me on my toes and hit me occasionally for your noto. I appreciate what you can bring to the game. 

    But remember this WE'RE NOT JUST PIXELS - there's a REAL PERSON on the other end.
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  • pieratthepieratthe Posts: 419Member Intermediate
    Ok heres what ya'll not understanding.  Lets say you do a nanban run.  Your going to make 200m when u get back and bazaar it.  Now it'll prolly be close to 2 hours time.  Let say you get attacked by 2 pirates during the trip.  First time was hostile waters u use tribute, u lose what 1-2m?  Then u hit lawless and a pirate attacks again, he melee's u and get's plunder.  

    My pirate ship has 130 cargo, therefore most of my aide's cargo was full of supplies, leaving me room for like what 500 goods maybe.  If i happen to get that whole 500 goods from u Odd's are ur still sitting on over 2k goods.  So when u get back u'll still make money, the pirate will still make money, and if that pirate got attacked sailing back, the hunter got paid.

    Now the trader in that sit. was the one that lost the most money (or rather you didn't lose anything u just didn't make as much), but also the trader is the one who can make the MOST money anyway.

    So it's kinda spreading the wealth around.  So now u mite be upset cause u think i think traders are supposed to carry the whole economy of the game.  Well not really true.  As a trader u prolly have crafting skills of some sort.  So when ur making and selling items, now who's going to buy ur items?
    Well it's that pirate who got some of ur money from trading, and it's that hunter who got paid killing that pirate.  

    So where-as u think it mite be wrong for a pirate to "steal" ur stuff, without piracy we all know pvp dies.  And on a server with dead pvp, the crafting market dies, and it agains becomes a nanban/adv game, to support the real money spenders.

    So technically everytime ur pirated as a trader, ur just supporting the game economy :D
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  • crazyhunter2003crazyhunter2003 Posts: 763Member Intermediate
    2nd pirate melee'd and got plunder,but you did not say if he got trade goods too.

    and,btw,lots of us never got to where we had over 2k cargo to begin with
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  • pieratthepieratthe Posts: 419Member Intermediate
    oh u don't know that u get an item And trade goods :D  don't think it's a either/or thing i believe it's a both thing :D
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  • lefox271lefox271 Posts: 495Member Intermediate
    Pierat I love that argument mate!

    You are right - it's my civic duty to get robbed.

    In fact I'm gonna cut out the middleman and start robbing myself.

    I'm gonna make my Alt pay. Lol
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