realistic expectations

clemsonfan · October 2017

i want to see what people think of how soon we will see these things return to uwo or how fast we can accomplish certain things.

how long to open port permits and gain access to all ports? for me i think it will take about 2 weeks as i personally wont be on everyday

how long until we have our first r20 sb? considering the need for rare item plunder for the SSB+1 book/

how long until 7 nation r20? i think minimum month to month and half.

how long to develop caribbean colony ports - ambon -run spice islands?

how long til we see first skill refinements. 2 weeks

alchemy- how long til we see FAB back and ex items return??? i say here 2 months easy

piracy how long til we see first acts? for this i say maybe week or 2 depending on players

All these things depend on player cooperation in nation development and rebuilding. some players will focus on rebuilding themselves some will focus on rebuilding their nation. some will focus on the entire population.

the main idea i am geting at is that we do need to work together SB will need maritimers to plunder book in order for r20- not to mention plunder of improved rope processed lumber book and the casting secrets books to make 100 atk weapons. adventurers are gonna be needed to dig up precious gears. crafters are gonna be needed to produce cannons sails and equipments. food and the like. cooperation will be needed her as well

in my opinion realistically it will take some time to even get a fraction of content back to where we were. i dont foresee anyone going to boston and riding the train for a month easy maybe 2 new content how long til you expect to see people getting to that point

aceman39 · October 2017

I can have sewing ranked and refined in a bout a week it is the opening of St Petersburg that might take the time And as I work on sewing I can work on SB as soon as I get it. But that takes a lot of time and money to rank. I agree with you on opening the ports, Well it is how fast people start going to Hostile waters for pirates to act. I agree we all need to work together I am gonna work on SB and sewing in London and go from there and invest money as I can since we don't have the flow of money we was getting before.

clemsonfan · October 2017

i see folks posting about getting things done fast and it is possible but i think we need to have honest expectations. this will not be easy and with fewer players than we had before and no clue on how many new player we can get or even keep. things to think about

aceman39 · October 2017

I agree and we can hope for new players to join and we can help them learn so they stay in the game and help them grow and prosper so they can enjoy them selves

crazyhunter2003 · October 2017

if the lvl 30 total & lvls 50 limitation on piracy is still in effect players can still gain all port permits and still be safe ,I've done it a few times

aceman39 · October 2017

I have also but when you trading in spice and nanban you can lose that protection fast

Laviol · October 2017

@Clemsonfan

month and a half for 7N R20 SBer. that's high hopes. I am sure someone will attempt it but remember there are minimal ESBRs and to actually get the ships you need to build from R9+ we need to develop ports outside EU. If development remains then this may be possible, issue with development is it would have to be extremely coordinated amongst the SB's and the nations to only focus 1 specific town till we reached development numbers for the Sambuk.
yes they can grind other ships but its not optimal.

I see some planning on speed grinding there way up. some say they will pirate after the first week.. that's gonna be hard getting around when everyone is basically the same level while your orange trying to level themselves.

I was gonna Power my way through it, but I changed my tune.

First thing I will Focus in Venice is my Feather Plucking to Fame + fishing -> cooking/storage + Oxfords(what if we have to develop London for this again)

don't forget for a lot of this process to happen we are gonna need food.. stamina is gonna be the killer early on I think.

once I find myself with enough fame for all the Port Permits depending how fast that is going, I will change focus to more cooking, I want to get fishing and cooking up before I even start thinking about other parts of game. then storage so pirates will have a hard time plundering me :)

MTF

lefox271 · October 2017

@aceman39 "I can have sewing ranked and refined in about a week"

Ace you were already my sewing hero when you said you maxxed it. Twice. And enjoyed it! I think you're already more famous than all the fame points you're gonna need to get the quest to get the port permit to get out to India to do it. Twice.

If you can do sewing even once in the first week - I'll eat my bamboo broom*.

Well - what I mean is, when I get the fame to get the port permit for Eastern Europe, and get to Benghazi with my Search R4 (which I'd have already got) and manage to dig one up.

*Bamboo broom - it's a sewers thing!!

aceman39 · October 2017

I should be able to max it again in a week maybe in a week in a half just working my butt off with or without a broom and charm

lefox271 · October 2017

@Laviol

My plan's similar to yours. Fishing, cooking and storage at first. And some collecting and crafting to break it up. I can do all that without worrying about port permits.

I'm gonna try and enjoy it rather than grind it. Maybe do some collecting/ procurement in places I don't visit much. Set some different targets so it doesn't feel like I'm just doing the same thing again.

I reckon I'm gonna be in and around Europe for 2-3 months.

Laviol · October 2017

@aceman39
Your also forgetting.
Lv 1 fabric trading
Lv 1 textile trading
No items boosts + sewing
No crafting books...
No PO3s
No food for stamina
POSSIBLY NO MASS CRAFT BUTTON- i realize some have not played during this dark time but you literally haf to click the button to craft each time... there was no 100 craft button
All that will take time. Also development maybe be required prior.

If you focus solely on sewing i say you reach Rank 9 before hitting a plateau. I need to confirm if silk thread needs development in india.

crazyhunter2003 · October 2017

can get vigor food from clerks in tavern

lefox271 · October 2017

You can collect raw silk in land area NE Bengal Bay - I've got a vague memory of trying it. But otherwise I think that's it. Take a lot of collecting when you consider all the silk thread/ embroidery thread/ wool you need. Not a viable option if the towns aren't open.

Laviol · October 2017

@Crazyhunter2003
yes until you fill up.. or become drunk, then it loses 50% benefit.
there will be no stomach meds or sober to use or buy.

FYI- when you drink and eat from the Tavern it Doubles your stamina regained.

I will also use the Tavern as it will be the only way to recoup stamina in the beginning but I can see a lot of port hopping with unprocessed goods to we reach higher levels or begin producing food.

crazyhunter2003 · October 2017

not barkeep,clerk.you buy vigor food to take with you

HelloAll · October 2017

If I have to click 100 times to multi-produce then I defo ain’t grinding management again.
I’ll play till the ships start getting mod’s then I’ll quit.

They have taken too much from us to then decide to make it even harder

Laviol · October 2017

like I said Helloall, that is how it used to be, then once you became meister I believe they gave you that auto button, also aides can have casting assistance, where they grind it for you while on ships. IIRC.

been a while since I used either one since I would just MASS PRODUCE with 3 click.

lefox271 · October 2017

I've got recent memories of having to do all my mats processing in a tavern.

I discovered if you only fill up about 30-50% of your vig bar each time you buy food, then process then repeat - most of the time you can avoid getting the full/ drunk message.

It's slower 'cos you have to keep going back for more food - but quicker than port-hopping.

HelloAll · October 2017

If it has stayed that way I could deal with it laviol.
But the fact that only last month I spent hours sailing and casting and smelting to max my management.....I don’t want to do it again an even harder way.

They really screwed us over wit this reset.

crazyhunter2003 · October 2017

iirc,before we had the 100x multiproduction you coukd run mass production ,it made 1 at a time but you did not need to click for each pice.it would run until vigor ran out

aceman39 · October 2017

I will be doing more of my grind between Edinburgh London Ams and Oslo Bergen area

lefox271 · October 2017

I'll see you there Ace. I'll be smoking herings between Edinburgh and Bergen :)

crazyhunter2003 · October 2017

what papers do you roll them in or do you put them in your pipe?lol

Gumobrush · October 2017

Koxinga Papers of course, the zig zags of uncharted waters.

aceman39 · October 2017

Yes it seems like grinding there feels like a second home then when doing sewing in India feels like a life time there also :)

ZimXero · October 2017

Personally I will not be in a race... but gonna set strong set of sequence priorities for me.

1	adv school
2	merch school
3	mar school
4	oxford open
5	Imperial Unlocks
8	invest 1m in every port
6	Maritime Grind to L30
7	Chart Seas
9	grind spice
10	grind cast
11	grind SB (grinds other skills too)
12	Adventure/chart lands
13	Maritime Grind to L60
14	7nations investments
15	unlock nanban
16	invest 5m in every port
17	select ports for control
18	build final ships
19	grind alchemy
20	clue quests
21	shipwrecks
22	PvP/pirating/BH

aceman39 · October 2017

Alchemy is a hard skill to grind

ZimXero · October 2017

I would not waste the time till the end-game, when you have some source materials collected, know what you actually want to improve or sell, and have the trade skills to craft what you need.

LeonoraJoseph · October 2017

how long to open port permits and gain access to all ports? for me i think it will take about 2 weeks as i personally wont be on everyday

I definitely can get all permits within one week or so ,but I am not sure how long can I unlock all ports that include Port Royale like 196 or so.

I checked Japan wikia that anyone can start to do spice trading at Ambon and Ternate without need to investment. However, spice trader job quest may be required to consume time before you can take quest like I mean you will need Alcohol then Luxury before you can get Perfume then Spice trading.

bossykathy · October 2017

I have 12 hour duties so not much time now, but have been researching Ivyro as I think getting myself vig is important now and have made a play plan that should get me cooking seafood pizza lvl 10 within a days play.

CrazeeBlue · October 2017

Realistically, it will be more logical to expect that player population in this server will be reduced. Allow me to put this in numbers. If there are 10 people in the room and 1 person leaves, the end result is that there are less people than before. The number and proportion stated here is arbitrary and random. With that being said, if there are no new initiatives by papaya play to bring in new players, we can expect that it will be harder for the server in the long run to reach its original state in many aspects. Nations will need to rally players to work together and hopefully players do respond.

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