How many times did the Japanese server get wiped?

TheAegisTheAegis Posts: 4Member Beginner
HINT: "The answer is not as important as the question."


So Papayaplay want to wipe out all character progress and reset the port development, do they?  Which means all that lovely endgame content in the industrial revolution patches will be mostly inaccessible until players get back to mid/high level again.  Not to mention that all those Atlantis discoveries and attached MA rewards will be unobtainable also(the Atlantis content was time limited).......


Going back to the question in the topic, how much of the new content in the recent updates was intended to be explored by sub level 20 players?  To get access to most of it requires EA permits + region charting.  It should be fairly obvious that KOEI did not design the new content with a periodic erasure of character save data in mind.  There would most certainly be ZERO point in doing adventure if all your progress gets wiped just because there was a change in server management.

Then there are the development ports, Ternate, Ambon, Lima and the Carib colonies.  After leading the charge to get the port development finished in Ambon and Ternate, I'm not prepared to do it a second time around.  Once was enough, thank you very much.

All in all I just don't appreciate having my refined skills blown out the window on a whim, They could double, or triple or even quintuple the founder pack rewards, but it would never be acceptable compensation for the loss of years of progress.  This is a very poorly thought out decision if Papayaplay go ahead with it.
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  • LyonesseJosephLyonesseJoseph Posts: 637Member Intermediate
    Don't you realize that Japanese server will never get wiped because players paid $40 per month for that ? while Gama and Asia servers are totally free. Korean server is totally friendly than Gama server while NM doesn't get desperate like OGP does. Not to mention that all Asia servers beside maybe Taiwanese have more active players than Gama server.

    I would like to see Gama server to get 2nd or even 3rd server with different purposes because Asia servers did do very well with 2-3 servers.
    xibwiz
  • pieratthepieratthe Posts: 419Member Intermediate
    I wondered how long before that name showed up again.  I was hoping to never see it again.  Poor u and ur investments in town.  Some people i do greatly feel for their loss, and wish them the best.  You @TheAegis are one person i hope is serious in not returning.  Plus remember we have plunder and deck back, 2 more reasons you should consider not returning :D
    SqueezeKanzakiKenzanjest11dsmack3crazyhunter2003xibwizGoosioTheAegis
  • WesDoobnerWesDoobner Posts: 761Member Intermediate
    Looks like Aegis will have to return just to spite pierat.
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  • KanzakiKenzanKanzakiKenzan Posts: 42Member Beginner
    o/  I have no problems going Red in this life if Aegis comes back
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  • OberrillOberrill Posts: 133Member Trainee
     Actually Pie, you do NOT know you have plunder and deck battle back. There has been no official word on anything definite except a wipe. I am pretty sure they are still trying to decide what is going to net them the most money.
    jest11dsmack3crazyhunter2003
  • pieratthepieratthe Posts: 419Member Intermediate
    It said plunder and deck will return in some form, which means some way i will be able to plunder and deck people. mite be limited, mite require me to do something special, u never know, but i will be plundering and deckbattleing, that is fact :D
    peloisanbluishredishwhale
  • HeavyWaterHeavyWater Posts: 138Member Trainee
    'an opportunity to revamp many aspects of PvP Battles, including plundered items and Deck Battle frequency' It does not explicitly say 'Item plunder and deck battle will return' it merely says that those aspects will be revamped.
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  • WesDoobnerWesDoobner Posts: 761Member Intermediate
    So it will be revamped by remaining absent?
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  • WatchkeeperWatchkeeper Posts: 36Member Beginner
    Plunder, I understand. Deck battles I have done against NPCs. What do the deck battles have to do with piracy?
  • rangerzfanrangerzfan Posts: 96Member Beginner
    forced deck battle is what some want to go back to. 
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  • WatchkeeperWatchkeeper Posts: 36Member Beginner
    Why? Is that what is necessary to allow plunder of items?
  • crazyhunter2003crazyhunter2003 Posts: 763Member Intermediate
    @ LJ  gamma may lack sufficient population to support 2 or 3 servers
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  • LyonesseJosephLyonesseJoseph Posts: 637Member Intermediate
    @ LJ  gamma may lack sufficient population to support 2 or 3 servers

    Yeah, I know that's suck for us. Voyage Century Online has more players than UWO :(.

    peloisan
  • HelloAllHelloAll Posts: 701Member Intermediate
    Is that game any good lyonnese?
  • NoelashNoelash Posts: 10Member Beginner
    @pierat
    Dunno the Aegis and no clue about your personal feuds, but this kind of attitude does the game no good. It hasn't even relaunched and you're already chasing ppl away. More of this and Gama will close for good in less than 6 months.
    GoosioSqueezeHawthorneBvdree
  • QuietCoolQuietCool Posts: 1Member Beginner
    Japanese server is $16 usd per month not $40. $40 would be the 3 month option.
  • yeestar74yeestar74 Posts: 2Member Beginner
    doing Viking armour MA plunder all over and not to mention Helmet map dungeon....
  • angeloducatiangeloducati Posts: 0Member Beginner
    TheAegis, I'm also disappointed, I was LVL 70-85-81, but all this stimulated me to continue.
  • dsmack3dsmack3 Posts: 42Member Beginner
    Plunder might be by consent only.  It might be only special conditions like lawless zones.  It might only be between PvP flagged (reds vs blues).  It might only be a 3 % chance to happen.  The more interesting thing is they used the word revamped and not returned
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  • GoosioGoosio Posts: 71Member Beginner
    Agreed, TheAegis. Why bother to rebuild something that requires so much work and devotion, if there isn't even a guarantee it won't be reset again in the future? Furthermore, the hemorrhaging of users has been due to how little consideration they have been shown, and how little actual say they've been given in helping to shape and decide the direction UWO will take from this point on. We were not consulted, nor was there any kind of vote/poll for feedback; the decision was made for us, without regard for how it could impact us, or the game.

    In fact, a server reset likely means it'll be months, not only before development levels are reestablished to pre-wipe levels (if even that), but PVP balances are impossible to know due to the lack of levels/skills/ships, meaning players could become used to something, only to have it readjusted later on due to flaws in the system that become more apparent over time. Not to mention that by resetting things so completely, Papaya has effectively 'reset' the emotional and financial investment users have in the game, giving few of them any reason to continue doing so.

    With the age of the game and its relatively niche appeal on the international scene, (and I sincerely love UWO, make no mistake), offending such a significant portion of its user base and alienating them on such a wide scale could prove fatal to UWO's future. It makes it even less palatable for users to continue to invest any more time or money into the game, compared to times past. Even if GAMA is a free server, that does not make this decision any less foolish; perhaps it makes it more so, due to how precarious its continued operation is.
  • WesDoobnerWesDoobner Posts: 761Member Intermediate
    Goosio - that may or may not turn out to be the case, but I want to know if you're coming back to give the new server a try or not. You say you love the game, so do you want to play some more or are you actually burned out on the game?
    jest11
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  • GoosioGoosio Posts: 71Member Beginner
    I've already answered that. And this isn't about a love for the game, or feeling burned out, or giving things a chance. This is about recognizing that those currently managing UWO have made a decision that will hurt the game and the users who supported it for all these years; users who poured their time and money into building a unique, irreplaceable world, operating like a volunteer workforce that helped to run the game, welcomed and taught new players, and even paid for the privilege of being able to 'work' for UWO's hosts.

    So far, Papaya has acted without any apparent regard for our input or opinions, which reveals much of their character from the start. It's one thing to choose to begin a game over from scratch -- it's
    another entirely for someone to make that choice for you, and to do so
    without any consideration of your feelings on the matter. I see no future in any games that they run with such policies, no matter how wonderful the game, or how much its users may love it.
    Watchkeeper
  • OwvinIIOwvinII Posts: 139Member Trainee
    You could see the La Tale forum boards to see how much of your statements are true and how much of your statements are actually false, 
    since La Tale was also server-wiped as well.
    RogerWalters
  • crazyhunter2003crazyhunter2003 Posts: 763Member Intermediate
    "Plunder might be by consent only"

    if so then nobody will get plundered,same as DB being on consent only
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  • dsmack3dsmack3 Posts: 42Member Beginner
    "Plunder might be consent only" was more to illustrate how little we know what 'plunder is being revamped' means.  Everyone is jumping up and down about plunder right now but in truth, we know zilch.

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  • a2b2c2a2b2c2 Posts: 13Member Beginner
    My understanding was that pretty much everyone agreed that LaTale had fatal problems. Therefore a restart made sense. Not true for UWO.
  • KanzakiKenzanKanzakiKenzan Posts: 42Member Beginner
    You must have been playing a different version of the game than the rest of us.
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  • LyonesseJosephLyonesseJoseph Posts: 637Member Intermediate
    Is that game any good lyonnese?

    Unfortunately, VCO ,like UWO, reached at peak ,so they give newbies lv10 ships and bunch of items to catch up veteran players. Apparently, most players are focus on siege battle and land battle ie Golden Tower ,but there are more players than UWO.

    However, I plan to try different servers to see if other servers are different than servers that I took. I think you can create up to 15 toons if all servers are ie create 3 toons per servers. I tried Zhang He (newest) and Magellan while latter are busier.

    As for me, I am still learning even though I got better every time after I forced to delete toon then create new one because of my mishaps. lol

  • theedgedemontheedgedemon Posts: 237Member Trainee

    @LyonesseJoseph "Voyage Century Online has more players than UWO :(.",

    that is not surprising at all, while softer on the lore and missions VCO was a great game with a wide selection of skills to waste your time on, and i for one did enjoy VCO battles quite a lot better.

    being able to fire both broadsides at same time?
    battle zones where enemies keep spawning as long as you keep fighting?
    why the hell we don't have that in UWO,

    heck even its deck battle was SO MUCH BETTER, you had sailor npcs which listened to your orders, and you could break out of deck battle on your own power by breaking the hooks!!!!

    i actually abandoned that game when they added shiny generic korean mmo weapons, and started gifting people ships i had spent months to be able to ride.

    imagine they give a IATS and an Improved excalibur as school reward, but only after you finally got to level 60 yourself.
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  • VictoriasSecretVictoriasSecret Posts: 78Member Beginner
    Watchkeeper - they are not directly linked. Years ago deck battle was conflated with piracy by SaulCaine and some others to help push for removing both deck battle and plunder. The irony being deck battle is one of the best ways to defend against piracy since any trader can wear their battle gear and push a pirate into DB so they have to fight on a more "fair" battlefield. But people being lazy whiny pillow-biters didn't want to level up the skills needed for DB (it took a LONG time to max them) so they advocated to literally have these things coded out of the game.  I hope for this relaunch they will speed up all the skills as well as the deck battle techs.
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