Our Sense of Community

BlueLilyBlueLily Posts: 50Member Beginner
Hello fellow Sailors!

Like many of you, I have played UWO since day one (with a few leaves of absences in between). I have always loved UWO and the Community's potential. I say potential because while for the most part we are a good community, there has always been more than enough room for improvement in more than one areas.

I know many are very upset about about the server wipe. Personally I find it disappointing too. I mean, it's no easy matter to see years and countless hours of work just erased. But you know, the way I see it is this: The server wipe WILL happen, it is a fact. I don't see that I can do anything to change that fact. So that leaves me with three options: 1) Quit. 2) Complain about it, hate it, whine, play the game for a couple of weeks then rage quit. 3) Look at this as an opportunity and hope for the best.

I myself have always been one to face a situation with as positive an outlook as possible. Now, this doesn't mean I'm blind to the very real possibility that I may be witnessing the end of UWO. I'm fully aware that this is a very feasible future. But again, I'd prefer to look at this as an opportunity. 

Papaya doesn't seem to be in our community's best opinion... far from it in many cases. But I don't know Papaya and therefor I can't and won't judge them. At least, not without giving them a chance. We all need time to get to know each other, to learn from each other. We (uwo community) tend to be a VERY  social community and expect our publisher (Papaya) to be involved with our community. We are used to having some form of communication coming from our game's publisher. 

Papaya on the other hand, maybe isn't too well acquainted with the UWO Community. Or perhaps it is, I don't know. Maybe they are busy trying to get everything ready for us. Maybe they are not used to being so involved with a game's community as far as communication goes. There are many possibilities here. What I do know, is that it will take tame for both sides to get to know each other.

Also, let's keep in mind that Papaya is the one that is making it possible for us to continue playing the game we all have come to like so much. Yes, with some major setbacks, but at least the game is still around. Of course, there are those of you who may think it better that UWO wasn't around at all instead of seeing a server wipe. I do understand that point of view and sympathize with it.

Now, the reason I see this as an opportunity is because, while it's heartbreaking to see all our work deleted, I also see a chance to improve as a community. Yes, Papaya will delete all our hard work, but really it's mostly up to us to make this work. To ensure not only that UWO is an enjoyable experience, but that it stays around for years to come. If the majority of us just complains and quits... well UWO's continued future is at risk. Now, if we work through this, bare through the loss and push forward with determination and hope then UWO can become something very enjoyable. I know because I've seen it happen, UWO has been around for quite a while now and in that time I saw the community swell, grow, work together and diminish over the years only to work its way back up again. The community this past couple of years was not nearly as big or as lively as it was four+ years ago, but that potential has always been there!

There used to be a time when the whole UWO community would get involved with SF's and Port investments. The French used to be hated... mostly by the Portuguese because they always bloody took our ports! And annoying as that was, it was also a lot of fun! We'd get together as nations, trying to improve our nations' standing be it through sea feuds or port investments and so much more! I know there are plenty of you that still remember those days! Player politics was a fascinating thing to witness. And this is coming from someone that happens to hate politics in general. Yet I found myself so entangled in game politics all for the glory of our nation (uwo nation, I'm talking game here! IRL politics SUCK!). 

We will unfortunately lose many of our veteran players. I understand why they are leaving. Sometimes, a loss is too great and starting over is just not an option. That's understandable, and I respect their choice. For the rest of us staying, let's make this work! We'll be starting from zero but you know, we'll get through it. We'll make new characters, chose our starting nations, build companies, develop colonies, fight each other, make friends, make enemies. Yell at bloody pirates and even admire some of them. It's a game people, it's OUR game. UWO will be what WE make of it. WE can make it fun again, even if we bloody have to start from the ground up again! Along the way, we will bring in new players, some of them will stay and make UWO the better for it (Yes, I'm choosing not to mention the long list of super annoying players that every game is cursed with!).

UWO has a lot to offer, even if we have to grind our skills to hell and back again. Our community is this game's best asset. Well, to be fair, player community is every mmo's best asset! But you know what I mean. It's up to us, the community to make this game an enjoyable experience. We have a chance to start over, and maybe even avoid some of the mistakes our community made in the past. Though to be honest... there will always be trolls. It can't be helped, it's an unavoidable reality. We should move forward as best as we can. The best we can do, is try! 

With that in mind, I very much look forward to seeing all of you, my fellow sailors in UWO! 

P.S. You know what I dread the most? Going through all 3 schools AGAIN! Just thinking about it makes my skin crawl! But go through it again I must!
catalinabonillaseapiratedeluxeSqueezeMaeryn6951crash941crazyhunter2003AdelinaKazKanzakiKenzanDanielFreedomHuntersPhoenix1492and 2 others.
IGN: Evelyn

Comments

  • seapiratedeluxeseapiratedeluxe Posts: 140Member Trainee
    Well thought out statement BlueLilly, i couldnt agree more.  If everyone had your attitude this game will never die!  

    I do remember how much fun it was to put the pressure on as a French sailor to get those damn portuguese out of the mediterrenean. It took alot of planning to get everyone focused on a target/goal which was the most fun ive had in any game i ever played!

    I can also remember waking up the day after investment bond were released and having lost almost every port we worked so hard to control.  I was devastated and just couldnt find that emotional attachment anymore.  Hard work and co-ordination was no longer needed, only a big spender who could use real money.

    We can do better this time around with papaya, assuming they are listening.  The things that killed UWO are all mentioned on this forum multiple times. If they truly want to fix the game all they need to do is ask us the players!
    BlueLilycrazyhunter2003DanielFreedomHunters
  • crash941crash941 Posts: 32Member Beginner
    THOSE ARE THE BEST TWO STATEMENTS I HAVE READ ON THIS WHOLE FORUM WELL SAID GENTLEMEN AND I HOPE TO SEE YOU BOTH ON THE WATER SOON( caps were to prove my point)
    ign Crash94
    BlueLilycrazyhunter2003DanielFreedomHunters
  • LyonesseJosephLyonesseJoseph Posts: 637Member Intermediate
    Schools are no big deal ,but you can skip school if you want to. IIRC, you need 500 fame before you can start to take quests at GM. It will fun to play straight to fight NPC fleets or do dungeon from beginning of game with just 50k lol.
  • crazyhunter2003crazyhunter2003 Posts: 763Member Intermediate
    only possible issue I have with Papaya is that their style of manging games seem to point to periodic server wipes.this will devastated this game,a game that takes years to cover all the massive content.If,for example they chose to wipe after say 2 yrs ,I can guarantee the game will be DEAD

    you can not wipe a game to prevent anyone from reaching high end content,especially if that is what you use to "sell the game"

    I would like to see some kind of promise or guarantee from Papaya ,that they will not do another wipe
    IGN:JackO'Neil
  • ZimXeroZimXero Posts: 190Member Trainee
    There were a great deal of players who also played other games on the side.  They continued playing UWO because of the end-game content which took them many years to get to, or because they loved the community.  Life is short.  There are windows of opportunity between major life events.  If you become very busy in real life, then UWO time is decreased or ends.  A player base is a fragile thing.  If we were all immortal... then the reset would be a minor thing.  Because resetting a game that takes at least 10,000 hours to do everything, is generally never done on purpose, and because much money was also invested by the community... a reset is nothing more than stunning.  I believe that the younger crowd that has not played for as long as others tends to be the larger supporters of the reset.  Keep in mind, that most of the players not coming back... have not even bothered posting.  Maybe they'll come around again one day. 

        Only an idiot builds a house in a flood zone without insurance.  What insurance is available that this will not happen again?... cause UWO is a proven flood zone now.
    crazyhunter2003Squeeze
  • LerxstLerxst Posts: 111Member Trainee
    You know....

    I play Space Station 13. And it's a "unique" game in every aspect. It's not a first person shooter, it's not an open-world survival, like ARK. It's *almost* an MMO with a smaller population... but.... the major difference is that the server in that game gets wiped after every round. 1-2 hours of work gets wiped. Hence the term, "rounds" when you play the game.

    It's not 1 - 2 years, but it's still not a game like a first person shooter, that you can just go into and blast people away in. It takes time to learn the game, learn your job, play your character, etc. So it's unique that a game with that level of role-playing occurring each round has everything wiped after an hour or so and then restarts. 

    I also used to ply Travian, back in the day. And that browser based game also had "rounds" that could last weeks on end, depending on how long you survived.

    I think there's something to be said for a semi-infrequent wipe to an MMO. One year, two years, whichever it is. It allows players to go a "different route" try new things, try out a different order of skills, items, etc. It frees a person up to play around more with the game when they know that in x number of months/years, the game will be reset and they will then have that much time to re-grow themselves into a new role.
  • LyonesseJosephLyonesseJoseph Posts: 637Member Intermediate
    I would like to see some kind of promise or guarantee from Papaya ,that they will not do another wipe

    I doubt they'd want to reset it because it's such suicide move for them. If UWO once reaches at peak again, I can image they will ship UWO to different publisher company then players can hope new host won't wipe server like Papaya did.

    With current contents we have, I'd say it will take 7 or 8 years before UWO finally reaches at peak whereas OGP's UWO was.
    peloisan
  • HeavyWaterHeavyWater Posts: 138Member Trainee
    @Lerxst I play SS13 too, it's an extremely unique and brilliant game, but cannot be compared with this situation.

    In SS13, knowledge and skill are probably your most important allies, once you know how to mix some chems and hack doors you will always know how to mix those chems and hack those doors within minutes of the round starting.

    Alternatively, in UWO, you can have the knowledge, and the skill, but you can't apply it without months to years of time.
    It's alright, Ma, I'm only bored.
  • crazyhunter2003crazyhunter2003 Posts: 763Member Intermediate
    after 7+ years ,what percentage of our players were in so called end gam having all dicoveries etc and what percentage had quite a way still to go???wipe at any point means nobody gets to do any high end quests etc.wipe disallows some parts of game .if you're gonna wipe,why bother adding more content that no-one will get to do????
    KanzakiKenzanCrismac
    IGN:JackO'Neil
  • HeavyWaterHeavyWater Posts: 138Member Trainee
    Precisely @crazyhunter2003
    It's alright, Ma, I'm only bored.
  • KubriusKubrius Posts: 0Member Beginner
    School will be easy and fast!

    #15/20
    Kubrius
  • BlueLilyBlueLily Posts: 50Member Beginner
    Holy cow! I wrote a bloody book! Lol I hadn't realized until now just how long that post ended up being! Whoops, sorry!

    Aww, yes I remember investment bonds being introduced. It did really ruin that whole aspect of the game. It was awful. I guess we'll just have to wait and see this time around. :) 
    IGN: Evelyn
  • FilburFilbur Posts: 0Member Beginner
    the previous uwo community was cancer.  they don't know it, they are ignorant of that fact.  but compared to other mmos, they were cancer.  and so much item shop and inflation.

    one major example of how cancerous the previous community was how the community moderators would oppress and mute any discussion that didn't favor their personal ideals of community. it did happen.

    i really hope papaya doesn't do what ogplanet did.
  • BlueLilyBlueLily Posts: 50Member Beginner
    @crash947

    Thank you! I am however, a Lady, not a Gentleman, but thanks for the sentiment! It was very polite of you! :)
    IGN: Evelyn
  • BlueLilyBlueLily Posts: 50Member Beginner
    @LyonesseJoseph

    No, schools aren't that bad, they aren't even as long as it used to be during the first couple of years. But school still remains one of the better ways to gain xp and all that at the very start at first. Though, as you said, it is not the only way. :)
    IGN: Evelyn
  • AliBayanAliBayan Posts: 2Member Beginner
    I gotta thank BlueLilly too, as among all the screaming any attempt at reason and fairness has to be appreciated.

    I do very much understand the outrage. I very well see how the situation managed to get an emotional response from otherwise very calm, reasonable and collected people.
    Papaya's silence probably doesn't help either, or the statements it is interlaced with. Such as: "Due to OGPlanet's discontinuation [...] all Uncharted Waters data on their servers has been lost". I'm not sure how they expect anyone to buy this being the reason, when there's already was one smooth transition from NM to OGP.

    Though I thought about it for a while, and also decided to stick around give it a chance.
    I remember the moment, when the Steam players joined. The School chat was full, and a bunch of new players was joining the World chat to get advice. It was kinda cute and heart-warming to see all the "old" players' efforts to guide and help them out.
    If that's any indication of what the UWO community can be in the time of need, the next months may be not as horrid as one could imagine.
  • WesDoobnerWesDoobner Posts: 761Member Intermediate
    Things look to be getting better lately. Some of the sour pickles in the barrel seem to have sweetened up a bit. Probably because of the palliative effects of the relaunch getting nearer.
    May the winds blow you well
  • crazyhunter2003crazyhunter2003 Posts: 763Member Intermediate
    @ Filbur communiy was cancer? need I remind you that each and every one of us was part of that community? Are you saying that we are all a cancer???
    IGN:JackO'Neil
  • aceman39aceman39 Posts: 943Member Intermediate
    Sounds like what he was saying about us. So if we was cancer then why do we even try?
  • seapiratedeluxeseapiratedeluxe Posts: 140Member Trainee
    My prediction of many old player returning has certainly come to pass!  The UWO is lit up on the fan pages with many old names!

    We are going to have a blast!
  • HelloAllHelloAll Posts: 701Member Intermediate
    So all these oldies returning it seems.

    I suppose we should expect to have to take a time out mid battle for the nurse to come and turn them over so they don’t get bed sores :p
  • aceman39aceman39 Posts: 943Member Intermediate
    HEY :p
  • crazyhunter2003crazyhunter2003 Posts: 763Member Intermediate
    WTF?@ HelloAll
    HelloAll
    IGN:JackO'Neil
  • silikryksilikryk Posts: 0Member Beginner
    Schools also do give ships when graduating that are better than the ones we will be able to build by that time. Also it will be nice to help the new people who will join once the server will open
  • b15h09b15h09 Posts: 56Member Beginner
    @BlueLily

    "The server wipe WILL happen, it is a fact."

    We're the ones that pay the bills on this game.  Not some mythical "new player influx" that's unlikely to materialize for a 13 year old game.  Us. The server wipe WILL happen if we acquiesce to it.

    Of your 3 options, 2 is the most reasonable, though not with a foregone mindset of defeat.  Complain, and maybe see a reversal.  If not, 1 remains viable.  Wiping out years of invested time and money makes 3 seem a bit naive.  Only idiots would be burned twice, and I don't think there are enough idiots to make the game financially viable long term.

    Besides, if the game goes under again, maybe we'll get someone with the NA rights who'll release the updated PS4 version.  That'd totally be worth the wipe.
  • idefikskeidefikske Posts: 4Member Beginner
    I stopped playing about 2years ago...had reasonable levels and enjoyed the game.
    Two months ago, had an accident and i got out of the hospital.
    First thing i did was check OGplanet to see if i could start playing again.
    When i discovered the game had been removed i was sad....i loved to play.
    So this evening i got a mail saying it was going to start again.

    This was the best mail in weeks. 
    I am looking forward to start again.
    See you guys ingame...

    Sir_Idefix
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