Battle Reports Nerf ? Blessing or Curse ?

Madcatz0543 · October 2017

UWO
is a awesome game , very in depth , full of history .. OGP messed up
the game with Astro ships and Battle Reports .. Battle reports is bad
because it nerfs you .. yes you get high levels but your skills suffer
and dont go up as fast so you pretty much become a "High Level Noob "
with less skills ... I saw a friend who was around my level Level 40 or
so .. beat the crap out of a lvl 80 somthing maritime in a turtle ..
THAT is what Battle reports does ,, it increases your Maritime Levels
but without skill leveling you end up screwing yourself in PVP and other
things..

aceman39 · October 2017

OK that might be the point. Now my question is to you. What would you suggest to raise skills and battle level?

Gilligan8567 · October 2017

I can attest to Madcat - I was grinding BRs like crazy to level my maritime in order to use my modded CRF and was attacked by a skilled pirate in the carib. No matter how much damage I caused him, he was fully repaired in seconds and I was barely able to keep up, my skill levels were not terrible, but compared to his I was no match and was even using my Mod Heavy Galleass.

Madcatz0543 · October 2017

Well Level skills the old Fashoned way , by Grinding Mobs .. its slow , time consuming but in the long run youll be thankful that your time and effort paid off .. My friend whos a BH in my company says "He Loves BR Pirates .. B/c its easy honor points " just sayin

Laviol · October 2017

The trick is to do both in Moderation, do BRs till you get the battle level you require to use the ship you want to use. then start grinding skills in that new fancy ship. don't keep doing BRs because this is the issue. both skills and Ships make a great Maritimer, you can't be great in a great ship alone, and you can't be great in a Barca alone. So if you fail in grinding skills, you will fail as a Maritimer. if you fail in grinding BRs then you will also fail as a maritimer.

Cheers.

aceman39 · October 2017

Ok cause I always found BR boring alone and always gave up about 30 ships in :D

Madcatz0543 · October 2017

so the idea is .. to do both in moderation , hmmm ?

aceman39 · October 2017

Yea cause battle quest does not help much

Laviol · October 2017

I can see a lot of players quitting or getting really frustrated IF it goes back to netmarble days.

The GRIND will defeat people now adays. UWO was never and should never be, 3 clicks and WHAHOOO!! lvl 85. a bit of an exaggeration I know but that what people expect now adays.

Madcatz0543 · October 2017

Kids these days want instant Gratification , quick quick quick .. well UWO was NEVER quick .. you work hard to gain your levels , hard to earn your skills ... its not for everyone .. but those of us loyal followers of the game love it ..

HelloAll · October 2017

I saw keep BR and if people want to gain quick but hollow levels then let them get caught of for the sheep in wolves clothing that they are :)

But BR brings good money and fame.

And BR if done correctly is a great tool.

I did a load with my pirate and only took on the bigger mobs and melee’d each of them. So I trained skills and gained lvls fame and money.

If people use AoS and go for the smallest quickest mobs each time then they are cheating themselves.

Laviol · October 2017

@Madcatz0543
I say moderation because you should be switching every now and then, I will grind BRs till I hit a certain maritime lvl, then I will go grind so skills in Carrib, then I will smash all my cannons so I will need to go back and remake cannons, and then I will be a bit tired of the grind, so I will do 2-3 more BRs, (full 200) then hopefully hit my next lvl requirement I had, back to skills grind. etc.

for the ones that Grind Cannon skills from R1 to R15, then Refine and do it all over, I tip my hat to you, you are the true grinders. and yes this is possible if you prepare properly with cannons. Having 2 Pcs would actually greatly help, cause once you spawn the fight in Carrib and get to the boundary where you park, you just start tapping the space bar to fire.. so on another PC you could be trading or crafting on alts.

LyonesseJoseph · October 2017

IMO, battle reports are all about level up and fame. Ships would be 2nd reasons why they need to do BR. IIRC, BR added during Ancient Glory patch because there were new ships that need high levels ie Victory.

On the other hand, BR does have high difficult ie Black Sea and Newfoundland that's where many players would grind skills against those NPCs. Grinding skills are super effective against high level NPC fleets just like you will need stronger foes to get techs or prof for weapons in land battle.

Then don't take low difficult BR if you plan to grind skills. Oh, I remember one player did take BR at Stockholm ,but he received far less reward than low level players included myself because he's extreme high level maritimer.

Anyway, BR meant to help players for various of reasons ie hate maritime, need fame, ship, or etc.

LyonesseJoseph · October 2017

Oh since Papaya reset UWO, I would say BR is blessing for most players including myself. I plan to take BR at Marseilles for fame that's only reason. Beside Marseilles BR can get me to lv20 by doing BR twice after I complete Intermediate adventure school.

Ah I remember BR has several handicaps.

1. Spend on ship parts ie cannons, figurehead, etc especially if you plan to do high level difficult BR.

2. Need Vig Foods and MCCT/LCCT

3. Equipment depend on BR

4. Fame could be stuck till you level up battle like I did because OGP gave players 100% fame/exp/skill boost for their mishap during maintenance that I got 51k fame with 50% fame boost from PKC for Caribbean BR. I was stuck at 100k fame lol.

Since UWO reset, I don't see players will take Black Sea or even Newfoundland BR for long time unless they're lucky to get UWC ships maybe.

Laviol · October 2017

Skill Prof is not based off enemy ships besides Arms.
Reloading is rounds fired.
Accuracy is rounds fired.
Ballistics is rounds fired.
Gunnery might be a combination of both.
Penetration needs a certain damage compared to skill Rank for Skill Prof.

Accuracy/Ballistics/ Gunnery all rank up relatively the same.
Reloading a bit slower.
Penetration is the slowest besides ARMS.

ZimXero · October 2017

If you go to college for 90 years, you wont make as much money or get as good of a job. Therefore, college should be nerfed. Is this your argument?

Laviol · October 2017

Grinding skills vs completing BRs are 2 totally different things,

Grinding skills you literally sit on the edge and fire over and over and over. maximize shots out using Rapid fire cannons, to maximize Skill prof.

you dont' grind skills while BRing, this is just normal Skill Prof from fighting that will be Very much slower then Grinding it specifically. considering you sit and grind cannon skills for 11 minutes straight, no stopping fire. as soon as they are reloaded, your firing, where as a BR your looking for crits. totally different

danhm001 · October 2017

BR are so useful for people like me....i was like 35/60/15 until i discovered BR and got maritme to 35.....

but in a new server it must be nerfed........or well see OP maritimes in no time.....

Madcatz0543 · October 2017

No .. its simple .. BRs can be misused .. and often are .. people gain high levels .. but skills are low ,, There is a joke in my company about BR Maritimers .who are high leveled but can be owned by people half their level with refined skills

crazyhunter2003 · October 2017

BR has 3 lvl limit per

Jazzmin · October 2017

I disagree with the original poster. When I did a bunch of Battle Reports, my skill ranks got to 15 by the time I reached the desired level goal. It doesn't nerf it. But it makes grinding so much less boring.

LyonesseJoseph · October 2017

Madcatz,

Laviol already made point about grinding vs. br ,so your company members went with BR because they probably need to build ships or fame.If you want them to grind their skills, they should take Wipe out Caribbean quest then grinding evasion, surgery, repair, firefighting, and other skills or take on ghost for grinding melee. Take on NPC fleets that have high durability to grind gunnery skills with 5 RFs. Those should solve your problem to deal with noob issues.

Yes, players will get 3 levels by report their BR quest ,but they probably will level up several times during BR depend on difficult quests.

Laviol · October 2017

Then Jazzmin, you were actually fighting the harder ships. not everyone does, they go for the weak 1 shot ones. which wouldn't grind your skills at all.

pieratthe · October 2017

It's a balance. If ur like me or most of us vets we had max skills long before the level caps started getting raised. You trying grinding from 80-85 battle without a battle report. So yes if ur crazy enuff to sit and spam battle reports and not level ur skills so u can get into a different ship, then that's ur fault. If u decide to grind ur skills, maintain a decent level and only be able to sail a lesser ship, then that's ur fault. I for one will do a combination of both. Skills are more important than levels by far, but levels are also important in melee/deckbattle aspects. Kinda why those that spam levels stay in a astro turtle. But spamming battle reports is no worse/better than spam selling ur nanban goods to level ur trade level, or spam charting the seas/lands to level ur adventure. It's apart of the game stop fussing lol. Play ur game, then everyone else play there's. If u have a problem with someone just wait and catch them in hostile waters and instruct them on the error of their ways then, not here in the forums' or in public chats. With the return of item plunder u'll either see peeps handle it in the seas or u can add them to ur block list for sitting in town all day everyday running mouth :D

won't be anymore "meet me outside seville" it'll be, i'll see u at las palmas :D

Jazzmin · October 2017

That is a good point Laviol.

Madcatz0543 · October 2017

Jazzmim thats what IM saying , I guess I should have worded it better .. BRs can be a nerf if people dont do it right .. its a proper balance .. unfortunately lots of people take advantage of easy wins in BR and end up paying the price for it .. just sayin ... /mike drop

HelloAll · October 2017

Does it matter if the rank easy lvls tho?

As stated they will still be weak at battle so it should bother those of us that lvl skills

clemsonfan · October 2017

personally i used battle reports to level my skills i had maxed my cannon skills doing ea battle reports east and west at same time. refined them at black sea. all the while i see people AOS farming these reports. BR can be a great tool for grinding skills. you can use while working oxfords too to get some of those skills unlocked

HelloAll · October 2017

Man this predictive text is destroying any point i try to make....can they nerf my keypad xD

Jazzmin · October 2017

Once I get the max skills, I don't care how easy it is. I want the exp lol. :p

Madcatz0543 · October 2017

Well IM gonna work on my skills first ... just sayin

Battle Reports Nerf ? Blessing or Curse ?

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