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Since Papaya never explain what they did change PVP and plunders.

LyonesseJosephLyonesseJoseph Posts: 637Member Intermediate
General Discussion
I noticed NPC fleet plundered my equipped Dragon figurehead ,so I think they need to revise some area that need to exclude from plunder list.

1. UWC items exclude buy-able or can get such as POs since the players spend on real money.

2. One time items such as Memorial Albums, some maps, and rewards (?).

3. Equipped for God's sake since I am pretty sure you don't want to get naked in rl.

That's what NM and OGP did.

What else did you change PVP and plunder ?.
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Comments

  • theedgedemontheedgedemon Posts: 237Member Trainee
    I noticed NPC fleet plundered my equipped Dragon figurehead
    that is normal behavior even with OGP players couldn't plunder you but NPC could.

    UWC items exclude buy-able or can get such as POs since the players spend on real money.
    if anyone wants to pay for them in the normal store its better for all of us, but those could be put on captain bag.

    One time items such as Memorial Albums, some maps, and rewards (?).
    those are supposedly excluded but i would also like confirmation.

    Equipped for God's sake since I am pretty sure you don't want to get naked in rl.
    those where the main reason for OGP plunder nerf so i believe its unlikely they will exclude them unless they fall in the scond category.




    Desire spawns madness, madness collapses into disaster.
    mankind never learns...
  • JeanPaulDupleixJeanPaulDupleix Posts: 21Member Beginner
    I fully support Lyonesse Joseph - items you paid real money for, one time items you cant get again and equipped items should be exemt from plundering.

    One time items can be items you got as Memorial Album reward or as Quest report. I think about the Patissier Recipe book as an example as you cant repeat the quest which gives you the recipe book as a reward. Without the book you cant make Poupeline trees which come up as company contributions at time. In an extreme case the loss of the book through plunder could cause a company to lose its rank, its shop and company house. That would be way over the top.

    Also, I think that items that require long quest chains should not be plunderable.
    We have enough work on hand rebuilding/redeveloping the world of UWO. We dont need that substantially slowed by excessive plundering.
    Idsadar
  • THawk420THawk420 Posts: 210Member Trainee
    if you worked hard to find an item just think how long n hard a pirate that may not have access to the quests for that item will need to hunt for it. being a pirate ain't the holiday its made out to be ya don't get much handed over without workin for it (asides from the odd stack of cash) its not like ya can look into a quest chain figure its to hard n skip the quests n just go pirate the items off someone. wish it worked like that
  • CulvernCulvern Posts: 646Member Intermediate
    Very true. Being a pirate is the hardest part of the game. You have to catch people, then win against them. You are hunted Everywhere. You have to pay 1M everytime you port at a city. You can take quests once you have 10k noto. And everyone complains about you the whole time.
    THawk420
  • KainDeKuriKainDeKuri Posts: 0Member Beginner
    I also think equipped items/parts should be safe (or at least less prone to be plundered). But well, in general, if you have a good Storage rank you should (hypothetically) be safe.
    Seperallis
  • OwvinIIOwvinII Posts: 139Member Trainee
    @Culvern who said that, quote "Very true. Being a pirate is the hardest part of the game. You have to catch people, then win against them. You are hunted Everywhere. You have to pay 1M everytime you port at a city. You can take quests once you have 10k noto. And everyone complains about you the whole time.", enquote.

    I don't mind having to pay 1M ducats to enter Nassau or Jolo just to obtain their discovery cards.  
    </coming_from_a_non-βeta_non-ßeta_player>
    :Ppb6Þþ

  • TwitchalotTwitchalot Posts: 263Member Intermediate
    As far as I know, everything can be plundered. That sort of ties in to the "pirate players control this server", theory, doesn't it?
    IGN: Henrique_dePortugal, formerly CullumStraun - aka O Tigro Branco(The White Tiger)
    - Director of new_world_company
    Alt: Christopher_de_Haro, formerly William_Adams - temporary Deputy Director of new_world_company

    Pay It Forward - It's what we do
  • CyrusSpitamaCyrusSpitama Posts: 12Member Beginner
    Some of us here still remember the results of the NM era item plunder testing that took place. Results were anything can be plundered. Some things just seemed less likely to be...
    A certain group of players think we have forgotten about those tests. Also, many of you assume the code can be so easily manipulated to say, plunder this but not that. I am sure the code can be written (see cheques), but this would require concern on the part of the publisher for the players of the game and work done by Koei.
    What are the chances?

    -Lug
  • theedgedemontheedgedemon Posts: 237Member Trainee
    @CyrusSpitama in fact i would bet CPC panties its a single field in the poorly maintained database of the game (with how old this game is it may as well be access!!!).
    Desire spawns madness, madness collapses into disaster.
    mankind never learns...
  • CrzyPsycoChickCrzyPsycoChick Posts: 667Member Intermediate

    Excuse me when did I ever said its a single field database entry but before that I work in IT and actually took over 10 database classes in college I'm 1000% sure my credentials in this field far exceed and in fact dwarf yours.  You don't even know the difference between the words hundreds and hundreths so let's not even go there when it comes to info tech credentials.  You focus on learning your decimal placement before moving on to something more complex such as trying to call me out on databases ok

    Source 1:

    Theedgedemon: "Second was the plunder of cash items, and cash improved equipment, which led to people filling complains by the hundredths since they had paid real money for that stuff"

    Source 2:

    Theedgedemon:  "to be fair i am not so sure this one is true, there were too many re-sellers in game along with some heavy weight NC/UWC buyers selling stuff by the hundredths on a daily basis."

     

    I'm well aware it may be convoluted and complicated to make individual items plunderable or not however it is NOT our problem to worry about the details its our job as players to provide what we want and the devs have to make it happen if they deem it feasible and necessary. They evidently know how to make items plunderable or unplunderable so we can definitely  assume they have working knowledge of programming the mechanic complicated or not.  With that said what is necessary is simply knowing if all items are plunderable or if some are.  Even a simple statement of "some items are plunderable some aren't but treat all as plunderable" would be fine to know from Papaya in statement.  If the knowledge is there its better for all but knowing nothing will place blame on the publisher that's all I ever said. 

    Stop mentioning every post you make if you like me just say Jen I like your passion I want to get to know you better that's all you have to say I'd respect that more but all this name dropping me all the time hoping I talk to you is cringe-worthy just grow some balls and just shot your shot with me like a man.  Damn
    Twitchalot
  • Donny71Donny71 Posts: 45Member Beginner
    @CPC i think i love you <3  happy now :D  
  • CrzyPsycoChickCrzyPsycoChick Posts: 667Member Intermediate
    Lol I appreciate the declaration of love I do respect your courage unlike that other guy above. 
  • TwitchalotTwitchalot Posts: 263Member Intermediate
    I've made a posting in "Suggestions" asking Papaya Play to post in the Forums a list of which items can be taken from another player using the skill Plunder or it's associated Oxford skills, or, a list of what can NOT be taken by another player that way. Or both. However, I did also say that the pirates would probably object to that list being posted, so...........
    IGN: Henrique_dePortugal, formerly CullumStraun - aka O Tigro Branco(The White Tiger)
    - Director of new_world_company
    Alt: Christopher_de_Haro, formerly William_Adams - temporary Deputy Director of new_world_company

    Pay It Forward - It's what we do
  • LyonesseJosephLyonesseJoseph Posts: 637Member Intermediate
    Tbh, they did mention that UWC items, one time items, and rare items are excluded from plunder list ,but they might forget to include NPC fleets that's why you may have seen some players complaint that NPCs plundered their UWC items especially sails.
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