Good-bye

Oberrill · November 2017

I have given it a try, but the wipe wiped out my desire to play the game. I will come back in a few months to collect all my UWC and buy items for players who are my friends. I am glad that most of you have been able to stomach the absolute greed that caused the wipe. Unfortunately, I cannot.
You all have fun.

Katanauwo · November 2017

And the greed goes on and on. Another wipe is sooner or later going to come.

JustToTalk · November 2017

Papaya is really either an inexperienced game publisher, or a game publisher that has a lot of ego. Ego person can't do business well, that's what my father always teaches me. You want to do business, you must put down your face, because the money is what you want to get, not the face.

There is a reason why game publisher refuse to wipe the server data. Papaya doesn't seem to understand.

It is like holding your property. As long as your property is in my hand, I can alter or manage the gameplay to earn profit, and you will not have a saying. Its either you submit, or you continue to play.

I am not trying to teach Papaya to become a bad game publisher such as that, but we all gamers hate those kind of game publishers but we can't do anything about them.

When you wipe the server, you naturally taken away all the properties from the players. So.. in this kind of circumstance, can you ask yourselves one question:

What else did you hold in hand to bargain with them? You have nothing in hand to bargain with them.

Please realize your mistake, the sooner the better, before it is too late. There is only a limit I can help, if only you willing to listen.

Sanaia · November 2017

The game we played, and the publisher we all knew several months ago ... are gone. This is a new publisher and a new UWO. As a new publisher Papaya has decided to start over and wipe the servers new in an effort to rid the server of all of the old clutter and potential malfeasance that might have taken place during the old management of the game. This is done in an effort to get a better handle of their investment and start their ownership anew. Yes it is a game for us, but it is also a business investment for Papaya, after all.

The old UWO and publisher that used to run UWO are gone ... kaput ... out of business. After the old publisher went kaput, the game could have ceased to exist in a NA and we would have no UWO to play at all, ever. Even if you loved UWO and still wanted to play it, that option would have been impossible. You would not have been able to play. It would have been gone forever with all of your prior achievements and all you would have is memories.

Video games go out of business all the time. Such could have been the fate with UWO. The only constant with UWO having ceased to exist and our not choosing to play now is the loss of all of our prior investment in the game before its closing. At least we have one saving grace now in that although we may have lost all of our prior investment in the game, we still have the option to continue playing the game that we love and have been playing for years. Papaya saved the game, and by doing so, have granted us that option. Their taking over the game has given us the opportunity to continue playing a game we love when we otherwise may not have had that option.

For that we should all be forever grateful.

KrisPBacon · November 2017

If another wipe does occur, I will not return after it.... 13 years of playing and thousands of dollars will be removed from their books forever....

papaya play better take note of this....

lefox271 · November 2017

@Sanaia I agree with you.

We are a diverse community because UWO is a game which can be played in diverse ways. No publisher could please everyone.

And at the same time Papaya is a business and has to be able to pay its bills.

I'm just glad I can play the game still, and I thank Papaya for that.

The only area where I think they could have done more is in communicating with the community. For example over the issue of Facebook account transfers. It would not take much effort to keep people informed of progress - people will forgive most things if they just feel listened to. (PP have only recently posted an announcement on the forum)

aldrizneriss2 · December 2017

Von Voyage Oberrill

take JustToTalk with you. if you dont mind

cause JustToTalk is still grieving for his loss. and is blaiming PAPAYA for it...

when all PAPAYA do is:

1. Purchased a license of UWO.and is accommodating veteran gamers. by giving them Founders rewards to somehow compensate for the loss.

2. Even generous enough to throw in UWC monthly for veteran players.

3. gave 200% exp and prof boost to somehow speed it up.

still JustToTalk is not satisfied and throw allegations to PAPAYA when OGP is clearly the one you should confront.

PAPAYA don't deserve to be treated badly by the likes of you.. what you need to do is MOVE ON.. TAKE YOUR WHINING TO OGP they are the ones who FAILED us NOT PAPAYA..

and for the record im not Depending PAPAYA.. they just dont DESERVE to be TREATED THAT WAY

Katanauwo · December 2017

OGP once held my huge collection and my addiction for adding new stuff to this ever growing collection.

Hence i regularly dish out $200 monthly. And i behave myself so that i get to keep my collection.

Now that Papaya has taken everything away, i finally feel free to express what I truely want to say, and refuse to spend on low-quality service. By wiping the server Papaya has zero bargain chip agsinst me now.

I believe that is also why a lot of players do multi x5. They really have nothing to lose.

Papaya digged their own grave when they announced the wipe. It is dead man walking now.

Tsannik · December 2017

UWO changed hands a few times with no wipe. Over and over we had to transfer our accounts, no wipe.

And based on my in game scouting the economy is no different. This did nothing.

PVP rules have changed before, mechanics have changed, and hands have changed.

Not once was there ever a wipe, or was ever a wipe deemed necessary.

This is not a 'normal' thing that happens when games switch hands, UWO's past is proof of that.

Culvern · December 2017

The wipe was an absolute money grab, no doubt.
But since OGP was not making enough to keep the game running how could Papaya start from that same point? They would also not be making enough to run the game. So they wiped all our crap and hope we buy it all back. It's the best way for them to cash in.

SUNDOGG97 · December 2017

What ever reasons, their was a wipe, It was not total wipe any way, I doubt we will ever know the truth exact reasons.

It just took away from players,do not fix any problems at all.

So yes Papaya really has nothing to hold against us now.

I know many continue to play bc of the amount of time effort and money put in through out the years and it was fun.

That has all changed now and no going back.

I do not think they can just depend on new players coming in. This is a long term game.

Since their been a wipe by the host and especially the way it was handled, everything is more unsure now.

This is my opinion, I hope this game survives

Katanauwo · December 2017

Yes, it was quite fun prior to OGP closure. The no dura loss feature really revived BC. I played it every day.

The status quo in Maris is like the taste of dry chicken breast without seasoning, tastless and dull. Everyone is working on grinding or farming. It hardly convinces me that we are about to enter Age of Reasoning...

Maybe we get there eventually after a year, or maybe PPP abandon us after having milked us dry in every dollar.

And by wiping, they lost their best bargaining chip to players.

WesDoobner · December 2017

And yet, there seems to be around 10 times as many people participating in the current ship race, and I know I'm still buying stuff. Rather than dying, the server seems to be flourishing, if you actually spent some time there. You wouldn't know that by the forum though. But that makes sense, since people who have something to complain about spend their time complaining and those who don't spend their time playing the game, not coming on the forum to write posts about how much fun they're having.

JustToTalk · December 2017

I am offering my very best advise to Papaya. If you want to regain your old players, give them one best ship that they owned at OGP before the transfer to Papaya. The ship can be a ticket, and they need to spend to mod it again.

If you are a really wise person, you will know I am standing on their side when I offered this advise. This is the strategy which you throw a handful of rice, you catch back a chicken which will lay eggs for your eternally.

When you do something, don't do it extreme.

When you take something, don't take it all.

The very basic of uwo, everybody needs a ship to sail, in order to play. All you need to do, is just give them a ship, just for them to continue to play. If they play, they will spend.

Some players here as old as 7 years, is it very hard for them to understand their customers' feelings? You take it all 7 years of effort and you told them to restart again?

Stop lying to yourself please, both of you and me know very well this is not true at all, and this is not going to happen?

Before you take any steps to proceed, you must understand their feelings, and take precaution measurements, a way, a solution, to ensure these customers, these players, a reason, something that will make them continue playing, even after you wipe the server?

Do you just wipe the server and never thought about this, and just see what will happen next?

WesDoobner · December 2017

Looks like they're not interested in your advice, and they seem to be doing quite well. I too would like to get an AFCV for free, just like I had on Gama, but it's not going to happen. Quit crying and play, otherwise you won't get anywhere. Or quit if you want to. Just realize that papaya has a plan and has no interest in the vast majority of suggestions from old timers who think they personally have the secret to make everything all better.

Culvern · December 2017

The wipe happened. Not going to change. Move on.

Katanauwo · December 2017

Not if we bring down this tyranny. Once Papaya is broken we will have another publisher hopefully doing things right. Wipe or not then wont matter.

Papaya as the new hope? I do not think so. They run the server no differently to Taiwan server or China server.

Uwo will flourish, but Papaya will be phased out eventually. And here i predict they run out of money in 6 months.

WesDoobner · December 2017

Nobody wants Papaya brought down except assholes like you. The rest of us are supporting papaya and are grateful they kept the game going. If papaya folds the game may not come back. If you don't want to play fine, but nobody wants to hear you constantly talking shit on papaya.

aceman39 · December 2017

Wes that is all he does and then he goes on about it in every post. It gets old if he is not happy why not just leave and stop posting on forums and let us worry about the game

Rhend78 · December 2017

The ones who constantly bitch and continuously add nothing constructive are the ones in the minority.

I'm all for people having the right to voice their criticism, but when it becomes a crusade to try and drag others down with your negative attitude, then the criticism is no longer constructive and is just about being a "negative Nelly".

It's time to move on man. You aren't going to change Papaya with your negativity. All you're accomplishing is making a lot of people angry towards you as an individual. Best thing you can do is to move on and find something else to play in the meantime, and check back regularly to see if the changes that would make you happy are being implemented, or if the publisher has changed.

Right now, with Papaya having the game only like 2 months, if they were to close shop on UWO, it probably wouldn't come back. That's not good for ANYONE.

lefox271 · December 2017

I think you all know my position. I disagree with @Katanauwo about Papaya.

But if you look through the forum he makes a lot of other contributions. Advice. Suggestions. And so on.

He's here. He's playing. He wants UWO to prosper.

@Katanauwo I don't like way you express your view about Papaya at times. But as far as I am concerned you are one of the majority and 'Welcome Here'.

Thecount1111 · December 2017

Don't mind the Papaya stake-holders like WesDoobie, good folks understand that these dudes are moneylickers without a conscience. I am definitely never ever playing stuff like this any longer.

Good-bye

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