Fang upgrade success rate and Papaya communication in general

northeastazunortheastazu Posts: 222Approved Member Trainee

The issue of the current failure rate of Karon's Fang
upgrade has prompted me to raise the subject of Papaya’s communication. Players
have either spent days in game grinding or an incredible amount of real money
trying to get this item to the top level and the lack of success has resulted
in a level of player discontent I haven’t seen in all my time with this game (since
the days of 2moons).

It is simply wrong to expect a player base to give so much
without reward for time and money spent. The item has a success rate so low some
suspect it to be bugged but despite these concerns, there has been no comment
from Papaya. Because of this players are leaving and there is a real possibility
more will stop paying and playing. Surely Papaya wants to do something to address
this before it’s too late? The current situation is unsustainable and I don’t
think players will put up with it much longer.

A while back, Gismo started the ‘Free to Play’ open topic to
ask what players’ thoughts were in an attempt to increase players enjoyment of
the game but even though it was a decent idea and some good suggestions made, the
whole thing seems to be dead in the water, again due to the lack of any
response.

In another thread, someone on the player side with extensive
experience in managing games and GM, DEV and player interaction has offered to
act as a 'player communications liaison' and provide updates advice to Papaya. This
seems a good idea to me and would help address the current communication gap,
but it needs someone on the game's team willing to listen, respond and actually
have the ability to do something about it, not just passing it to a Dev team.
Even if this is not taken forward, at the very least, the players need
communication of some sort through the forums, perhaps a Q&A section with
an active GM.?

Over to you Papaya…

MytsosdannydritzMondiVG

Comments

  • ColdSteelColdSteel Posts: 21Approved Member Beginner
    +1
    Mytsos
  • iknowyouiknowyou Posts: 69Member Beginner
    what you're talking about is a small problem...
    People can get +10 easily with 100% tali and deux easily

  • iknowyouiknowyou Posts: 69Member Beginner
    what you're talking about is a small problem...
    People can get +10 with 100% tali and deux easily
  • northeastazunortheastazu Posts: 222Approved Member Trainee
    I didn't know you could use '100% tali and deux' to get +10 on Fang. 

    My post is mainly about the very poor success rate on Fang and lack of communication by Papaya
    Mytsos
  • dannydritzdannydritz Posts: 49Member Beginner
    +1 @northeastazu 
    I stopped logging into game since i spent 12b and over 22 tries on trying to max my fking Mitera bright TEAR, talk about fang ... thats a far off dream for me sooo yeah.

    Papaya, stop butchering the playerbase and community and do something costructive for us you greedy asians ... (totaly worth the bann)

    Nothing to do in game ... stop it with the Dshop and the freaking SEEDS FARMING events cuz we are soooooo sick of it, id rather cut my dik and listen to a Jehova Witness than farm another seed... listen to your freaking costumers or lose your money hoes.
    Mytsos
  • MytsosMytsos Posts: 28Member Beginner
    +1
  • jrharbortjrharbort Posts: 54Approved Member Beginner
    Also +1 here. I agree with the 2Moons statement, since I'm also from that era, having played BOTS from Acclaim Games back in October 2006, and then 2Moons when it hit open beta.

    It's not a good image for the company and the game when negativity is the only thing new players will see when they check out what the community has to say.

    It's time to fix it before it's too late. This game still has plenty of potential.


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  • viperxxxviperxxx Posts: 23Approved Member Beginner
    i threw in 250USD on Dshop to try and make this fang, also spent 40b just to make it from shiny to Bright fang. This is one of the very reasons why Dekaron is losing so many players. p2w players spend a ton amount of money to make things in this game, imagine for those who actually try and play for free by farming, id say you would need to put in 8 hours a day for a whole month to even have the chance i got to upgrade this Bright fang
  • ShadowAlokenLVShadowAlokenLV Posts: 200Approved Member Trainee
    @viperxxx

    Most of items i have farmed anyways, only few things i have spent money on all my chars since 2007. Perm Pet egg awaken, costumes & wing pack, stash pages, extrea inv, runes, exp talis, coupld times upgrade talis 18% years ago. Quite few early platinum boxes years ago and thats it. Rest i farmed good old fashion way. Im not supporting random bs in general since i prefer solid deals that give 100%.

    When it comes about fang, took me 23 fails just to make shiny and 10x fails and still trying to make Bright Karon fang.
  • MondiVGMondiVG Posts: 214Approved Member Trainee
    northeastazu your English is good better then mine :) You have ex playing it well to them I lost £50 pound I thought I will make my ring because I don't like farming and I don't have time I was on lalaland when I found out people have tried 150 times and fail I was like papaya why do you do this to me or to others ? are you UFO ? because if you are ? help players arrive-rs like this new guy UFO he need help lonely like to enjoy the game you are killing players!
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  • jrharbortjrharbort Posts: 54Approved Member Beginner
    Well, so far that's 10 tries down for Bright Fang, all fails. 3,000 pieces are needed for that many tries. Is Papaya even aware how much time is needed to even farm 3,000 pieces, or save up enough dil to even buy that much, just for them all to fail? Absolutely ridiculous.

    If you're going to host an event like this, there has to be a FAIR chance for participating players to achieve the final item within the time frame of the event. The point of having an item event is OBTAINING that item. If you're going to deny 99% of the players that played hard, and fair for it, then you're completely out of touch with how to run a game anymore.

    The fail rate wouldn't be so bad if it didn't require 100, 200 and 300 pieces per try.on the fang. Half that would have been much more tolerable.


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  • jrharbortjrharbort Posts: 54Approved Member Beginner
    Make that 30, 150 and 300... Sorry for the typo on quantities.


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  • PauliokaszPauliokasz Posts: 58Approved Member Beginner
    Such things should be farmable like perp end of story
  • northeastazunortheastazu Posts: 222Approved Member Trainee
    I'll be interested to see what communication we get from Papaya regarding the GM Shop situation. Surely they can't just ignore this and do nothing.
    Mytsos
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