Opinions on the state of the game?

quitms · December 2017

I've noticed the game has been going inactive.

Is there any reason as to why you think this is happening, do you guys have any personal experiences regarding the decline?

I really want to know the reasons as to why the game is declining in player base, or why many players are becoming locked up in progression.

bone16 · December 2017

ye it does seem why the player base has declined rapidly the past week and honestly theres only one reason i could see why. Cause there isn't alot of things to do once you did your dailies. theres litterly no Zones or outdoor areas that has a good experience income or Ely.

also the fact that we dont have alot of people buying Pet Herbs which means we can't revive our pets unless someone purchase them every month.

other then that the Experience potions are in such a limited supply. and they are super expensive to buy from people.. a 888x Potion cost from 35-50mil which is a 4th of possible daily >Ely income based on 3 dungeons and equipment.

honestly thats why i think its so inactive. and the game is to focused on p2w elements. and i do feel like Latale is on its Edge of shutting down. we are prob going to see somewhere in 2018 a shutdown notice. cause theres less then 100 players online a day now. even the guild i am in litterly has no one online anymore.

babybaka · December 2017

There's two things that are making people not play anymore, which is what I think anyway : pet herbs and high ltc rate. There's no flow of pet herbs anywhere besides the fashion shop and trees. When LTC rate is like 250k~350k , they are gonna cost you 40m or higher for each pet. They could lower the price on pet herbs to 40-50 ltc or include them in gamble boxes.. As for LTC rate, its up for the community to lower prices ;p . When less and less people are playing the game , do you think people are gonna still wanna buy items at a ridiculous price point(goes for anything you try to sell). That's all I wanted to say.

VoltStar · December 2017

I think its definitely due to the lack of Pet Herb and EXP potion availability.

With EXP pots coming mostly from the Loot Crates (that are ridiculously overpriced for what little you get), the market price even for primes can be a turn off for some.

As for Pet Herbs, they are next to non existent on this server. At least back on OGP they were in Loot Crates, so the price saw an all time low of 2 million each. Here at Papaya they start at 40 million.   And the LTC price is insane.

I have 10 pets that require recharging. If I were to buy the 30 day herbs every month for them it would cost me 1620 LTC a month, thats $20 worth of LTC (not exactly, but thats how much LTC I would need to purchase to get the 1620).   Thats basically a subscription fee.

When my pets die, I'm going to have to quit or cut back what I do in La Tale because I am NOT paying that much every moth just so I can have my pets. And I dont want to buy them with Ely because, again, they are over priced. I would rather spend my Ely on progressing my characters.

Lower the price of Pet Herbs, or put them in the Loot Crates and either lower the price on Loot Crates or give them better rates. And make EXP pots more available.

Rikanei · December 2017

There are a multitude of issues contributing to the currently-abysmal retention rate. As others have pointed out one of the biggest is just how costly it is to keep your power.

This wasn't an issue during the early years of LaTale. What sort of upkeep was around 5+ years ago? Even the highest profile players only had five or six pets(excluding a few PvP pets for the handful who took PvP serious enough to keep those going as well) because pet buff stacking was extremely limited with the way many overwrote each other. Statted fashion beyond the Gab/Luci sets were almost all permanent as were the overpowered rings. That's... really all there was. You kept a small number of pets going and maybe a Warp Crystal if you wanted that luxury.

Now? It costs more than the monthly fee in a subscription MMO just to keep your compass, card, etc. active and these are all pretty major contributions to your stats. Pets cost significantly more due to how many of them you can stack. Newer dungeons are designed around an absurd expectation of strength and result in dozens of res potions lost per run if you're not among the elite. Ely becomes more and more devalued with every passing day due to the absurd amount of ely gain rate which can be obtained and the sheer volume of currency being pumped into circulation, making it more and more time-consuming for any newcomers to reach a point where they can do anything other than buy leeches.

This list goes on.

Aegelweard · December 2017

Personally, I see two reasons: high per-month cost and the community itself.

1) What do you associate this logo above with? Especially after recent scandals and controversy around Battlefront II and UFC 3? To me personally it is greed, nothing more. I do not five a flying !@#$ about all this "We are closely following KLT and this is why things are as they are" crap. Papaya is sticking to a greedy and shameful practice of milking people. Items in Fashion Shop are super expensive. But to add insult to the injury they put the best stuff in their goddman loot boxes! $100 for 100 loot boxes with no guarantee of getting the top prize?! Are you insane?!

I know what you are doing, Papaya.You are throttling people's progression speed so that they spend more time in game. And the more they spend - the higher are the odds of them buying LTC to get boosts and speeds up. [strong Destiny 2 reference here] Then you trick them into buying loot boxes (because the best stuff is in there) making times more profit of poor misguided souls. One does not have to hold phd in economics to understand that any kind of a loot box triples or even quadruples the actual value of the item in question.

As @VoltStar mentioned above the overall cost of maintaining a set of 10 pets + compass/stone will cost 25 USD. What if I have more pets? What if I need crafting hat or runes or mastercraft mask or experience boosters? 50 USD, please. Oh, for !@#$ sake!

You know, I have this game - Idle Poring - on my mobile. I recently payed 17 USD for a 3 MONTHS PREMIUM!!! I am getting 15% exp boost for the main character and pets too, crafting points, coins to exchange for fashion items, more daily boss raids... FOR 90 DAYS, CARL!!! I recon this many benefits on Papaya would cost me 170 USD.

I am strongly considering not charging LTC anymore because of these reasons.

2) Community. It simply does not exist! I told you this back in June and there you have it: clique elitist parties, damage gods that regularly showoff on youtube and peasants. And, of course, soulless merchants trying to rip you off every step of the way. History repeats itself again. Server shutdown is imminent.

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