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NaverUWONaverUWO Posts: 84Member Beginner
Hello, everyone!

I have decided to stay in UWO but I do not have plan for PvP nor supporting PapayaPlay until I see they are willing to accept the proposal I have. Maybe I will be doing some astronomy stuffs with the advantage of free pass from XXXX pirates while helping people with shipbuilding.


If you need any help with shipbuilding plans or want me to build you some ships or just share you R20 shipbuilding skill, always feel free to request in that board above. I am currently r15 + r5 so I will be able to help you without limiting your time.

Also, I will be reclaiming honorary mayorship in Naples from upcoming 25th so grading service will start a bit later.
"The more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face." - Donald J. Trump
"Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump
"The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
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  • PotatoBakePotatoBake Posts: 14Member Beginner
    A hero we need, but never deserved. 
    subaruhing716
  • CrzyPsycoChickCrzyPsycoChick Posts: 667Member Intermediate
    Thanks for doing this. However papaya is definitely not going to give into your demand of letting whites get farmed by Pirates it's just simply too much money to be lost and for them to lose items and repeatedly losing to farming it will cause people to quit and thus make them lose even more money and they definitely aren't aren't going to risk losing money by making exclusive cash items plunderable as nobody would see a need to buy them...

    I remember back on gama black Empire was one of the Premier probably the premier Maritime company at one point and then in a Flash I heard rumors that you just quit and deleted your company just randomly out the blue I found that very strange and then on this server you did the same thing and quit. I just feel like if you're  just done with the game altogether whether it be the grind of the wipe then whatever just say it and just quit you know I wouldn't hold anything against you I mean you gave so much to the server but This quit and back and forth and back and forth and creating a company deleting your company create company delete your company you know you got people in the balance as well that you have to consider. 

    I just think you need to really think long and hard not so much of is papaya going to give in to my demands cuz they're absolutely ridiculous and dont make sense and you played this game with even restrictions than they have now but you need to think more along the lines of are you done with this game in general if you are God bless you and you know I wish you the best but I think you're really trying to make it seem like it's something else besides you're just tired of the game after this wipe that's just my opinion but you know I want to see your company back the more maritimers the better the server will be if that's not going to happen it is what it is take care Naver safe travels.

  • ccsray88ccsray88 Posts: 40Member Beginner
    Welcome back :)
  • NaverUWONaverUWO Posts: 84Member Beginner
    I found out funny thing that people like you CPC, trying to make maritime community look like very small and they are not worth the money to listen for Papaya. Yes, you are correct. It is small. Very small now after all the one sided crying babies cried very hard and put limitations over and over again. Maritime community has been most largest for several years under Netmarble. Maritime ships were worth double or triple more than trading/adventure ships. I still remember that. It just started fell down to ground due to the limitations on piracy. I have been playing since the time where there were no green flags, no blue flags, no tributes and no bullshit limitation on piracy. The population was absolutely largest at that moment and every companies had competition to protect what they love and daily sea activities were common thing. I know because I managed PvP co since the first year with HwangJinee and AreS. You faggots will never understand how important it is for bringing back the energy to the game and the benefits from the impact.

    You wonder the real reason of I am staying? It's because of if I quit, the real maritime community will have no voice from it. Already became very small due to limitation but will be absolutely none if I quit. You do know that most of 'real' maritime players do not check forums. Myself is checking forum because I just felt very disgusted from seeing one sided selfish people ruining the great game we have. 


    "The more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face." - Donald J. Trump
    "Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump
    "The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
  • NaverUWONaverUWO Posts: 84Member Beginner
    Now you want me to make RE as maritime co again? Under this more of the same bullshit PvP system?
    Keep dream on. I only came back and revived the co because I thought they brought back old piracy rules. If I knew it earlier, I wouldn't even return and invest. I will play PvP in world of warship and UWO for just helping people with shipbuilding and chatting with friends.
    "The more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face." - Donald J. Trump
    "Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump
    "The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
  • CrzyPsycoChickCrzyPsycoChick Posts: 667Member Intermediate
    Hey listen calm down I never said maritime is small in fact quite the opposite I believe maritime is basically the life blood of the game, maritimers spend the most money and I also feel yes you are one of the premier maritimers thats why I'd love ❤ for you to stay. I was one of the main people pushing to remove alot of the unfair piracy nerfs ie.100% improved hold, 24 hour cant attack rule, removal of deck and crappy spoil rewards. But this is where I think we have a disconnect....


    I also played when there was no restrictions on piracy and whites were farmed and I saw and knew 3 people in my company alone who quit after being farmed. I also remember HUGE backlash from traders and very shortly after came the very first piracy nerfs...am I lying? With that said Naver why would you want to return the very things that got piracy nerfed in the first place? 
  • CrzyPsycoChickCrzyPsycoChick Posts: 667Member Intermediate
    The problem with alot of maritimers is simply this...alot of you don't think about the business side what I mean by that is this. The reason why piracy got nerfed initially was MONEY The publishers want to milk us for every dollar we have you and I both know this they want as many possible players in the game to spend more money simple.<b> If people are too scared to leave EU because they can't get tribs or afford blue flags or don't earn enough money to become maritimers themselves or simply quits after being farmed...The Publishers LOSE MONEY.</b> Publishers dont like to lose money and its in all our interest they dont or the server closes.

    Maritimers spend the most money FACT however you have to remember the other groups facilitate maritimers. Traders sail to get money to become maritimers one day or invest...pirates chase and catch these players...bounty hunters chase pirates. All the groups are needed for the system to work and farming whites threatens to remove them from the eco system it works both ways too if there's too much restriction on piracy maritimers quit also breaking cycle balance is needed. Papaya seeks to keep the most players all groups to make the most money simple.

    So please reconsider building your maritime company again but look at it from the side of Papaya aka how can we retain the most players all classes and profit the most off of them? Its all about money...
     
  • lefox271lefox271 Posts: 495Member Intermediate
    Naver when you posted your farewell I thought it was a shame. I had some respect for you as a long term player who has really supported the community. 

    You received all the "hero" valedictions. But Papaya didn't notice you going, and the rest of us got on with playing.

    Was that not quite what you were expecting? Did you expect half the UWO population to follow you? I ask this because, that's the way it seems - when you do a 180 and decide to come back.

    And of course you'll be 'Honorary Mayor of Naples' - which suddenly makes your act of opening up the iron paneling look a little bit less altruistic.It tarnishes the image a bit - you bought and paid for the mayoralty, but now I'm thinking there are scores of players out there who put a lot of effort into repeated, boring IQs, to help the world re-build.

    But for me you lose all credibility in the general vitriol of your latest posts, and in particular your use of homophobic name-calling. 
    subaruhing716CaptainQCaceman39
  • CaptainQCCaptainQC Posts: 57Member Beginner
    Naver is back but for how many time its been years he say this he leave the game for good the come back couple week later. i even remember on ogp he erase hi account to be sure not coming back but 1 month later he was back with all ih lvl 60 and more lol naver decide yourself play or leave but we know you now and dont care about you anymore
  • NaverUWONaverUWO Posts: 84Member Beginner
    Hero? Since when did I ask for that title? I never wanted nor asked to be a hero in UWO. 
    I do not need any respects from you guys nor do I care. I am a player and I play to enjoy the game. I hate to see the fact that still many are influenced by me. As a gamer have a right to return to the game to check how things are going especially when they spent tons of time in there for over 7 years. It happened because I like the game itself but the UWO management do not have a clue for success. I wish old maritime players were like me and return occasionally but certainly I do not want to recommend them as the PvP is not yet improved.
    Also, you have mentioned that Naples investment was for mayor. If it was for mayor only, I wouldn't invest 100m per hour for 100 hours and same thing applies for Venice.

    You mentioned hero and seems like you guys like to make some players as hero. It seems good idea. Let's give bounty hunters a chance to have that title. If pirates have power to control seas without limitation. You will see more sea activities like the video below every time. Not just between two companies from the entire server.


    "The more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face." - Donald J. Trump
    "Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump
    "The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
  • aceman39aceman39 Posts: 943Member Intermediate
    Yes but what you are asking is crazy. You want to be in a position to farm whites and still all they have and then when they rage quit we lose another and another and then the game will be just pirates going where are all the merchants and adventures they all left. Then what you have only all pirates to fight. How much fun would it be then?
  • NaverUWONaverUWO Posts: 84Member Beginner
    As you watch the video, we were BH and it's more fun than piracy if there are many strong pirates.
    Only case I will be pirating is when there are no pirates to hunt. To be honest, it's bored as hell with current system. 

    As the growth of pirates, there will be more BH that can deal with them.

    Currently, Bounty Hunters do not have a chance to be 'hero' as every traders just free passing the hostile/lawless waters and certainly they do not need BH to help them.

    Is this GM babysitting kids game? Do we need GM's care every single fucking time?
    Let pirates deal with multi characters and LET bounty hunters deal with pirates.

    This game has been successful in earlier stage because of the original rules.

    I hope you guys are smart enough to figure out the problem by now.
    "The more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face." - Donald J. Trump
    "Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump
    "The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
  • CrzyPsycoChickCrzyPsycoChick Posts: 667Member Intermediate
    So you blame us traders for lack of pirates??  Try blaming pirates for lack of pirates and the lack of never being satisfied. Pirates cried oooo boo hooo plunderable is gone so they restored now they complaining omg tributes are unfair we need to.get rid them now its omg we cant farm whites booo hoo piracy is broken.  Some of you maritimers are some of the MOST Ungrateful players on the server l


    You truly wont be happy or "not bored"  until

    All players can be farmed
    All tributes are removed
    All waters are lawless


    It just seems like nothing is ever good enough Im really starting to think its not us its YOU at this point. 

    Imo maritimers simply arent creative anymore thats why youre bored AND  I can prove it. The Uwo battle league month long tournament was my idea  that tourney was SO fun! And lasted a while  Auctions not typical trading but super fun. Sea legion used to.make naval blockades around calicut to block trading and bounty hunter came and.fought...hell even nellemus had his 10bil Pirates hunt, PAC had a pirate event to sink the most traders.
    The point im making is maritimers need to stop waiting for us traders to entertain you go entertain yourself. Start a company war, start a contest, start set up turfs and dare any other player to go in it ...DO SOMETHING instead of sitting around doing nothing  complaining while waiting on TRADERS to "entertain" you. Killadub going around saying him and his peeps are the BEST PIRATES on the server...DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

  • HelloAllHelloAll Posts: 701Member Intermediate
    maybe you and your company can all go pirate naver.

    Start attacking everyone one and everything in hostile waters...then word will get out people will become BH and people will hire BH.

    There needs to be a spark to start the fire. Go for it :)
  • NaverUWONaverUWO Posts: 84Member Beginner
    All players can be farmed - Only those brainless traders who cannot use 2~3 tribute to escape will not use shipwreck feature either.
    All tributes are removed - Every maritime players have no problem with tributes
    All waters are lawless - All waters except Europe should be controlled by pirates and BH not by GM's

    UWO Battle League wasn't your idea and it was totally different from your shitty rules. I was there so I know. Don't try to take it as your achievement. It was from SaulCaine's and everyone knows it. If you want to know the truth, your idea was with different name and wasn't even populated at all. My co and other co didn't join yours while we joined his instead because it had better scheduling setup with reasonable rules and prize. 

    "Sea legion used to.make naval blockades around calicut to block trading and bounty hunter came and.fought"
    I think you are having some problem. Naval blockades is only possible with no limitation. With tributes, every traders will free pass from it. Lodian and their hardcore members even said they left because they were bored with UWO PvP system and moved to other game very long time ago and offered me to join them in other game before. I rejected at that time but I think they made smart decision. 

    "hell even nellemus had his 10bil Pirates hunt,"
    Who cares about him? He never came out from a port and spamming feather every time?
    Wow! Great event we are very interested! You are joking CPC.

    "PAC had a pirate event to sink the most traders."
    PAC director BowserDaGreat pmed me to rebuild the BE when I dismantled and returned months after and told me how bored UWO is. Simply it's because there were no other maritime activities other than between PAC and RE. We both lost the interests of PvP system long time ago. We continued it because we had responsibility for our companies.

    "The point im making is maritimers need to stop waiting for us traders to entertain you go entertain yourself."
    They don't wait. They left long time ago and still leaving. There is nothing to entertain by themselves from those many restrictions other than friendly mock battle which isn't the solution for balanced platform. Traders will continue to print money by using a tribute and will say 'goodbye damn pirate see you in next month.' Absolutely no negotiation required no diplomacy required because all you need is a tribute. Why need bounty hunters? Pirates are a joke. I'm carrying 200m on person while sailing and basically I feel so safe from anything in this game.

    I already explained enough to you but if you still don't understand my point, it's your problem.
    All common sense. I explained why we need it and why it isn't all about farming white people.
    It is a solution for bringing back maritime players who left the game and bringing back the energy for new players because UWO needs the energy to survive as I've mentioned in other thread.

    All of my points are from my own knowledge from long enough PvP and trading experiences but all of your points are from your shitty one sided view.

    "Killadub going around saying him and his peeps are the BEST PIRATES on the server...DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!"
    That's true. Because there are no professional pirate who can fear the server anymore.
    AreS and HwangJinee was special case. They were known as trash talker but in fact everything was planned to create dramas and to create energies from the madness among people. This certainly doesn't last long. We need a stable and platform which can continuously generate the energy of the madness.

    Again, I will not bother with failed PvP system anymore nor do I have enough energy to slap you with the fresh tuna I just catched. I will just help people with shipbuilding and focus on managing co for now.

    Good news for you is I will have another Canadian navy training in Quebec next summer so you will not see me for long time.
    "The more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face." - Donald J. Trump
    "Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump
    "The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
  • CrzyPsycoChickCrzyPsycoChick Posts: 667Member Intermediate
    UBL originally known as SBL:
    First of UBL WAS my idea when I first announced the event  it and put it on the forum  it was supposed  called the SBL Season 1 saul event commented on the post and said hey thats an interesting idea and if done right could be effective.  Saul Caine oh sorry "coolwind" then came about 1 week later about 3 weeks away from my event as I was still organizing the teams and owners and made a post called   UBL  Season 1 Coming soon it wasnt even finished yet HE EVEN NAMED IT SEASON 1  JUST TO SPITE ME.    Then I made a forum called why are GMs's stealing player ideas and taking the credit saying why did coolwind steal my event and steal Alianore's Scavenger Event idea and ran it without her. GM Waldo his supervisor then came and APOLOGIZED for him doing it. I STILL HAVE THE SCREENSHOTS and you can ask alianore herself a former CA (She wont lie).   So yes everyone knows the truth and I can prove it.   Saul organized his stolen event well no credit lost there but yeah it was my idea  tournament of sea battles that took place over a season MY IDEA not Sauls so nice try. He doesnt have an ounce of originality in his body thats why he was jealous of me and you only took his side despite the evidence because you despise us traders and youre being biased.

    Entertain yourself:
    You sir are missing the point  when I gave references to the other events its not was the event successful or not or if you "approved" of it its the fact  PEOPLE DID SOMETHING about it.  Maritime was stale I (A Trader not a Maritimer) tried to start that Battle League,Nelle started his event, Sea Legion did theirs  whether successful in your eyes or not is irrelevant the point is at least people are Actively Trying are you????  so instead of bashing the people trying to create events and stir up trouble or interest  you should be trying too... if youre not then youre sitting back waiting for systematic change when you should be getting out there and raising some hell laying down the law.

    Tribs:
    As far as tribs there are ways to stop trib use  and I saw someone do it using a fleet of 5 pirates  I first heard about it from pie and confirmed it when the fleet of pirates did it to me  I got away luckily...barely.   Its funny a trader knows about this and not a maritimer...you look down on us just because we dont maritime but we know alot too.  If you dont know about this trick I can teach you if you want or ask Pie about it. In addition multiple pirates can consecutively attack the same trader after green flag is off they also tried that on me too had to use 6 tribs to get away a value of  60mil I had 01left luckily i got back to EU.  

    Killadub:
    KillaDub going around saying he the best in YOUR city isnt maritime falling off thats the heart of maritimers falling off.  If I was a maritimer and he was saying that I would have told him from Gijon down to Las Palmas you and youre company are banned and Id put people  there to guard it to make sure he dont show up.  If you let him walk all over you t that dont reflect badly on the game or traders that reflect badly on you by not doing a damn thing about it.

    KillaDub: " Im the best nobody can F with me hahaha"
    Naver: "... oh woe is me  whites cant be farmed so im just going to stay quiet and LET HIM say and do anything he wants"


    Yeah ok sure  thats definitely the TRADERS fault.   
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  • aceman39aceman39 Posts: 943Member Intermediate
    So let me get this right. Navar sounds like he wants to make UWO into his version of a PVP game where PVP becomes more important then all the other classes. Next thing you know they will want all the seas in UWO to be hostile where they can just sit in front of Seville and wait to a player leaves Seville or sail towards it so they can attack just to get their jollies and ruin every one's fun all because they want to feel they are more important. New Flash Navar. No class is more important then another. And see I was around NM days and the way pirates was back then is why many players left. Cause it was all about PVP and that is the way pirates like it even if not everyone is into PVP but that doesn't matter as long as PVP players got their way
  • NaverUWONaverUWO Posts: 84Member Beginner
    I admit that SaulCaine revived your failed idea to useful one with his scheduling skills and proper preparation. (I don't like SaulCaine but I'm stating the truth)

    Also you will have to admit that entire PvP companies and their leaders demanding original PvP rules.

    RedEmpire formerly known as BlackEmpire demands strong on it.
    PrincessAna&Co./Sea Legion/LuckyJack'sPrivateer/Philippines/Garuda and every other PvP companies(You name it) also demanding it as well. Do they like to use forum? I highly doubt. Only you have mentioned pirates are just those garbage that left out because you have lack of knowledge on PvP.

    Everything can be expected with your fantasy rules of PvP.
    'We are going for war at certain time and I expect our foe will be there to greet us with the expected preparation!'
    As I said if you truly want to see revived PvP, it suppose be unexpected way for the excitement.
    The excitement coming from dramas only since UWO is a game of drama for PvP.
    How do you create the drama? Only pirates can do it unfortunately. People must be feared from pirates when they see at sea. And once there are high demands, thats the time where bounty hunters get motivated to sail out and track them to clear up.(As most of you said, to be a 'hero') However, that's not exist with the current platform. Traders don't need bounty hunters now because they can free pass without having to call friends nor negotiate with pirates.

    You also forgot about most of professional maritime players are trader too. They have better knowledge in trading than most of you brainless traders. They know how to 'not get farmed' and the safest way to do trading. I have been trading with orange name for long time. I had no problem because I know how to deal with certain situations as 'Trader'.

    Trading is very easy. It requires to be improved by giving them more risk at hostile/lawless seas.
    Currently? It's a joke just like you. All you need to do is sailing and printing money. That's everything. Have you even trading before? I don't think so. You are just one of those Seville sitting resellers and spamming in merchant chat in my view.

    "As far as tribs there are ways to stop trib use  and I saw someone do it using a fleet of 5 pirates  I first heard about it from pie and confirmed it when the fleet of pirates did it to me  I got away luckily...barely"

    If you meant jumping into admiral and melee, it's very silly to argue with you.
    Can simply avoid that by having tributes in every alts very easily. There are no possible way to get into melee for all 5 characters as soon as you get attacked unless you are afk sitting for 10 min and put some efforts on setting up. Still impossible to melee for all 5 character at same time.



    I prefer the balance of every roles. That's how game designer.programmer created it.
    "And see I was around NM days and the way pirates was back then is why many players left. "
    Sorry to say but your argument is invalid. As I mentioned earlier, those days were the golden period for every gamers regardless of roles. Traders/Adventurers were way more skillful and they know how to deal with pirates. Pirates and BHs fought every single day for the supremacy of seas from the continuous 'drama'.

    - Tributes are fine
    - 5 min green flag after attacked is okay.
    - Level restriction for newbies are good too.
    - Blue flag is also understandable since publisher needs money too.
    - I don't care about plundering items. It's a different matter of balancing PvP system as it applies to pirates as well.

    All we need to do is allowing pirates for unlimited attempts to white and blue name players so that there will be sea blockade exist which will make bounty hunters a role of interesting position to play with.

    If you are worrying about getting farmed, don't worry. I am in favor of 5 min green flag.
    I like and respect every roles not just PvP. That's part of reason RE has many experts in every roles.

    I am pushing for this proposal because it's the most important thing to do for reviving UWO before too late. If it's too late, there will be ducats flooding and every price of ships/items will jump up just like we had that situation already. While we have short gap with new players, this is the time to implement it.

    Let's not make the same mistake again.
     


    "The more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face." - Donald J. Trump
    "Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump
    "The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
  • aceman39aceman39 Posts: 943Member Intermediate
    Ok you said 5 minute green flags so that means a pirate just follow the trader they hit then when the player docks and resupply the pirate just sits out in front of the dock and wait for them to sail out and hit the same person again and then  after that they let the trader go and follow them again and do the process all over again. How is that truly fair? And don't say it can't happen cause you showed a video of you in your other post where you asked for all this and showed you following the ship you hit into different waters and re attacked them again. So once again how does that help the person you just hit and robbed to get to safe waters if you can just follow him and hit him every 5 minutes and keep robbing him? Don't you think by doing that it will make the person keep playing? No that person would rage quit cause he lost money crew and inventory that he worked and I repeat WORKED hard to get. But hey as long as PVP is the way pirates like it no one else matters is what you are saying
  • HelloAllHelloAll Posts: 701Member Intermediate
    @Naver, I agree with what you are saying. I want more pvp and I am a new pvp player so need more action to improve.

    I also watched a lot of your YouTube vids, and nelle’s and batts. Something to be taken from them all.

    You say traders don’t fear pirates...it’s true, there isn’t enough pirates to cause that fear.

    You say BH have no motivation to be BH because no one to chase...also true.

    But you are a very experienced pvp player, also experienced pirate.

    Why not you and your company force pvp.


    Become a pirate, ally with another comp and maybe then you will have 30 or more pirates in the sea.

    That changes things, traders are nervous, BH now have a reason to BH and also traders will have to hire BH and pay off pirates.


    You have a pvp company and with your knowledge and experience and also contacts, you could force the pvp situation.
    lefox271
  • NaverUWONaverUWO Posts: 84Member Beginner

    You didn't read my post. Read it please. I already answered. Thanks :)

    Traders will not have any fears in any situations as they can escape from pirates by throwing a tribute very easily.

    Alliance, NAP and foe is only possible if there is a fear from pirates.
    Without it, it's just no more than a meaning.

    The thing you want to see is what I deserve to have in UWO.

    Negotiation with strong piracy company and having an agreement to not attack certain trading company for certain period of time or having an allied with strong bounty hunter company to protect their trading route but giving them some protection fee for their efforts etc.

    These things will never happen without the fear from pirates.
    Fear comes from the pirates ability of attacking repeatedly on players without the limitation.

    IF they have ability to create the naval blockade, those pirates names will spread around of the server and it will create the motivation for bounty hunters 'automatically' because once they break the naval blockades, their names will spread around too. Just like you guys want to see a 'hero'. Small battles will become large battles as they brings their allies and friends and co mates.

    This is the concept that UWO has lost for a long time. This was the reason UWO has falling down to grind as a chain effect.

    "The more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face." - Donald J. Trump
    "Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump
    "The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
  • HelloAllHelloAll Posts: 701Member Intermediate
    I understand what u say about tributes naver, but 90% of people don’t use them.

    And even if all traders use tributes, we would still see more BH because people enjoy to BH.

    So it may not be perfect but even on this server if more go pirate more will go BH and we will see better pvp. All be it not the pvp we would prefer.
  • TwitchalotTwitchalot Posts: 263Member Intermediate
    Well, up to you, but, Papaya Play will never let Cash Shop items be plunderable, because, no one will buy them. If you can't see the logic of this, you'll never play again by your thinking. And from the sound of it, that's a good thing, because you sound like the type of bully the game doesn't need, who thinks that pirates are the be all to end all of UWO, and that to you, everyone else is a target to be farmed. And you want to try to "hold your breath till you turn blue" so Papaya Play will give you what you want? Fine. The less players with your immature attitude in the game, the better.
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  • CrzyPsycoChickCrzyPsycoChick Posts: 667Member Intermediate
    Oh I see you backtracked your original fallacious Saul caine story that he didnt steal the idea because you know I kept all the evidence of him stealing both mine and Alianores event and can PROVE it, well at least you admitted it.  You still bias about it you didnt even say it was wrong of him to steal our events you clearly only taking his side because he a maritimer. As far as my " failed" event how is it failed if I never held it? Didn't even schedule all the fights yet and I didnt list the finalized rules or teams yet?  Coolwind forced me to cancel my event 3 weeks before the start of it by him putting the GM event season to start at the same time as mine.  Nope you're not even going to mention his wrong doing in that? Nothing right? By Not condemning him doing that to me and Alianore event just because we not maritime shows you kiss maritime a** and you OVERLOOK any wrongdoing of them just because they fire cannons...SAD.

    The pure disdain and lack of respect you have for the sellers traders and merchants of UWO is sickening like we didn't help build this game too, like the fact you look down on people in Seville yet I saw you there buying and selling tons of times...like we didnt write guides, teach newbies by letting them in our companies when big maritime companies refused them because they dont meet level requirements or weren't strong enough.  Who did that? Oh right so HUMBLE yourself a bit please.  

    This "joke" of player has taught, nurtured and entertained more players in this game than you ever did or could.  Go into World chat right now and ask who here learned how to play this game from CPC(the joke Seville player) go ask if they love auctions?  If it wasn't for me many many people would have quit this game and never became the players they are today including alot of maritimers go talk to Shakari (Maritimer) ask him is this true.


    Maritime is major in this game but so are the other classes too we all work together to help facilitate  the other classes we are NOT here to be your fodder to amuse yourself.  we are ALL important Papaya knows that obviously you don't.   The fear of piracy is there Tributes are selling and so are blue flags if this was true they would'nt sell at all.


    Like I said before but you jumped off the subject you have to make effort too to facilitate maritime yourself aswell  KillaDub making you guys LOOK SOFT you sooooo intent to farm whites and people that cant fight back but the obvious challenge (killadub)   right in front of your face you dont want no parts of him...fascinating. He said he the BEST that means BETTER THAN YOU and you turn the other cheek and go uh uh I rather farm a white with no cannons. Are you afraid of this man??? Are you Nervous? 

    Everyone he want excitement right?  he want fun right?  He want PVP FIRE  back right??  Then why he ducking Killadub then? Lets see what he does...  Dont talk to me about whites needs to be farmed for PVP excitement when this guy has outright challenged ALL of you but you got your eyes set on farming white names. Keep chasing the white names though  Im sure thats VERY CHALLENGING..


    Say what you want about me but uhhhh When I was Duel champ nobody came to Seville and said they were best without leaving with bullet holes to the chest...but thats none of my business....
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  • aceman39aceman39 Posts: 943Member Intermediate
    See people that think being a pirate means yes we can attack people who can't fight back and hopefully win but like you said KillaDub is openingly laying down a challenge. Oh wait he can fight back so I am not going to attack him. Let me be a bully like I was in school so no one picks on me. That is what some of the pirates like Navar is like not saying all but the ones like Navar think they can get away with anything cause they want to bully people
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  • CaptainQCCaptainQC Posts: 57Member Beginner
    PVP mean player VS player that both want to fight. forcing trader and ADV to fight or get farm by pirate will not help the PVP situation since those player dont want to fight.
    this game is seperate in 3 ADV ,TRADE,MARITIME, that mean the game is not alll about PVP that why this game is fun is you want to make PVP go play World of tank this is 100% pvp here pvp is max 20%
  • aceman39aceman39 Posts: 943Member Intermediate
    Or go play Blackshot which is full PVP, There are many aspects of this game for traders and adv to do. Not just forcing us to PVP, but the ones who like PVP thinks UWO should all like PVP no matter who doesn't want to do it.......But pirates act like we don't matter it is their way or the highway. Reality check without the non PVP'ers the game would be dead and then what will the pirates do. Look at each other and wonder where the traders and adv are
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  • lefox271lefox271 Posts: 495Member Intermediate
    CPC and HelloAll have both suggested there is a lot more maritimers could do to organise worthwhile and meaningful PvP.

    For pirates to want fight with traders and adventurers who have been grinding a whole bunch of non-maritime skills is just not either a worthwhile or a meaningful fight. It is not what you would call PvP. It doesn't require any skill. You are always going to be beat them. You just sail up to them, board and plunder.

    Is that what you really want Naver? 

    Do you want meaningful PvP? Or do you just want to plunder players who have no way of defending themselves?

    I've read what you have to say, but I just don't believe you really understand what balance means.
  • NaverUWONaverUWO Posts: 84Member Beginner
    Asking same questions thousands more please.
    I already answered everything and my points are valid for UWO balance.

    Since you guys don't like to read, I will keep it simple.

    1. Current piracy system is a joke and traders don't need bounty hunters. = No diplomacy/competition exists in UWO
    2. Always scheduled and predictable PvP(CPC's fantasy rules) between players = No excitements nor it is permanent enjoyment.
    3. Nothing can stop trader's printing ducats especially for multi user = The gap between new player and old player will be crazy due to the massive inflation which will bring negative effect to new players.
    4. Trading/Maritime, both side have no skills with current platform. = UWO cannot have professional players.
    5. None of you have enough experiences in both roles to argue with me

    Without those improvement, most likely none of those PvP companies that I have mentioned will participate for any kind of PvP including RedEmpire. 
    Maritime players stayed UWO because they had possessions but Maris server is in different case.
    They will leave easily once it's more of the same usual thing.

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  • aceman39aceman39 Posts: 943Member Intermediate
    How can you sit here and tell us that we have no experience in both roles. The traders who been around a long time has experience in trading,  and as far as maritime goes if you force a trader or a adventurer to PVP that they have no desire to do if that means we have no experience in PVP you got that right cause we are not pirates or BH's we do trading things. But people who PVP forget that. Remember traders are also a big part of UWO. If it wasn't for traders they game would be a dead game cause it will be pirates and BH's alone and if traders was gone then adventurers would be gone. Then where would that leave all the pirates......Hunting each other till they realize the world is dead due to everyone else quit because they has hunted and hounded by pirates wanting to take everything they worked hard for and then you mention multis. They are a part of this game also. Next thing I know people will say pirates want to be policing of multis. How does anything you are fighting for make any sense. If you read every one else who posted here they are telling you what you want to happen will never happen as much as you ask and think it should happen. This is crazy
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