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Twitchalot · December 2017

The picture in your posting tells me all I need to know Naver, There is absolutely no reasoning with you, and that I'll do better trying to reason with a rock than try to make you understand my(or anyone's really) perspective on this or probably any other issue. 'Nuff said.

CaptainQC · December 2017

Naver think he is important telling other player they not nothing lol. you know nothing acting like this.this game is not about pvp at all so just stop with your forcing pvp. i play this game since its true beginning on netmarble and i was at top on other server lvl 85 maritime but i still hate PVP but love fightting npc. thats why this game is fun we can play without being force to fight with pay to win player like naver that put a lot of money then cry

NaverUWO · December 2017

"i was at top on other server lvl 85 maritime but i still hate PVP but love fightting npc"

You were grinding entire time to fight with NPC. Typical retards but understandable.

"pay to win"

Pay to win applies for every roles in UWO as I have mentioned. Was that a surprise for you? You cannot blame it to players. You have to blame to the publisher 'Papaya Play' as they decided to earn money in that way.

Traders = investment and Maritime = over powered ships/gears/cannons etc.

"put a lot of money then cry"

My proposal is returning to the old PvP which were not effected by few crying forum warriors.And don't worry, I will not be spending single dollar for this game as I'm spending thousands on several games already.

I spent 3k+ dollar for Black Desert Online and I can confirm it cannot be pay to win with their monetary system unlike UWO.

aceman39 · December 2017

You see here you go just like others their play style is not the same as yours and you lower your self to name calling. Which shows how much a fool you can be. Oh boo hoo lets return to the old PVP ways which on NM caused many others to quit, but hey who cares. Back then it was a lot more players that if some one quit there was another to take that ones place. Now wrap your head around this. We don't have a huge player base for pirates to say oh well he quit 5 more will take his place. Don't you see Navar all the people are telling you in this forum the way you want it to be is not gonna happen cause it wont last as people will rage quit then where would UWO be. The server will be a ghost town. But you don't care as long as you cry enough you might get your way, and these videos you are placing here hurts your case and not help you one bit

NaverUWO · December 2017

@aceman39

At least CPC knows what he/she is talking about but what are you?

Same thing again again again... and never ends just to get high score in your forum posting number?

Again, if you want to know the answer, read my previous replies.

Thanks :)

aceman39 · December 2017

I know what I am talking about. In the NM days I seen people get farmed by pirates and knew many that quit over it....But once again you want to go back to those days. PPP would be stupid to give in your demands or the whole thing I am gonna quit (Which was a lie by you) Then you say I am gonna stay and just offer free SB help cause you want PVP your way that was stated in past post by you and the thinking is that PVP players should have all the freedom and the traders/adv should have no rights to enjoy their game without PVP being pushed down our thoughts and forced to play others like you want it to be

CaptainQC · December 2017

NM has change this because stupid player pirate was abusing of this.ho yeah i tell the truth about this guy now he need to try disgrace me wow men how old are you.i have pay some on this game to help then to survive but making pirate farming white is totaly wrong you know it that some pirate will abuse of this then trader and adv will leave the game. this game is seperate in 3 adv 33% trader 33% and maritime 33% so if maritime is max 33% of this game pvp is max 15% because we can play this game without pvp and its the reason a lot of player are still in game because they dont have to fight with those oversice P2W player

Twitchalot · December 2017

As I said, the pic and now the vid Naver put on his postings says it all: He's as obstinate as the supporters of the person in the pic and vid, totally entrenched in their position. And cannot be swayed by things like common sense and reasoning, or anything really. Give up, you'd do better trying to reason with a rock.

NaverUWO · December 2017

@Twitchalot

HelloAll · December 2017

I’m no big household name in the world of maritime but i understand what naver is saying.

I’m mostly a full time trader, and it’s easy, too easy to make money in this game and there is zero obstacles.

I believe naver had a good point but this convo has become a little aggressive now, and it was more the traders that turned it that way.

And of course aceman has to put his nose in every conversation and try and make himself the centre of it.

So let’s say naver gets his way...how does it affect us traders?

Do we make less money? Yes!
Do we have bigger risks? Yes!

Does it mean the life of a trader is over? No!
Does it mean that traders will be farmed all day and every day? No!

For starters there still would not be that many pirates. But for the sake of argument let’s say there is 100 active pirates around the choke points and Calicut/Carib/EA daily, does that mean that any trader in that area will be attacked or farmed? No! Becauce where ever you see active pirates there will also be active BH. The balance will be restored.

Also if Naver did Get his way with the rules it would encourage interaction between players. Paying BH for protection, paying pirates off.

I believe (as a trader) it would make the game better, more active and more exciting for all involved.

Right now trading is boring and risk free and easily solo’d.

aceman39 · December 2017

I have ti stick my nose in hell yeah when a pirate thinks that we should go back to the way it was in NM days. You have no clue what those days was like. I was there and seen it. It was a huge risk. The pirates would farm the one they attacked over and over till they left that player nothing, Then they would think it was fair to force people to play it their way even though people didn't want to PVP. So don't go telling me it makes the game more exciting. It made it more stressful to have to be hit then hit and hit over and over. I seen many quit back then and there was not enough BH even at the height of all the pirate activity. So unless you seen it don't tell me it makes it more exciting. It doesn't......It makes many say why bother trying and go out there to be farmed. The only thing back then is pirates actually sailed looking for targets. Now they sit at ports and wait for a player to leave port and then hit that player. So if you think the rules should change then why not make a pirate earn it like NM days and sail and look for a target and not sit in front of ports waiting for the merchant to leave. Oh wait that means they have to do some hard work. And if they did give him his way then they should make it that if a pirate is caught and defeated that he should be hung in a public square in EU and left hanging for days as a warming to pirates. Oh wait that means that pirates lose the ability to do what he wants and have not to pay for his/her crimes against others. See people forget this game is not all about PVP. PVP is a small part of the game. There is other aspects of the game that pirates seem to forget that has rights to play their game the way they want to

HelloAll · December 2017

lol Aceman “you weren’t there man, you didn’t see it, you didn’t have to pick you your best friends dead body and carry it back to the boat...you don’t know the things I’ve seen man”

This ain’t a flashback to vietnam you know.

I see in your posts your refer to port camping? Can you please point out where I encouraged that?
Also I haven’t seen any of that at all this server, and that plays in the BH hands because they can just farm the pirates.

Tbh, I think you are a little Irrational and overly scared.

No offence to you, I’m sure your a top guy in game and in real life but I often can’t agree with what you say in these forums.

I think you have the inability to look beyond your comfort zone.

Anyway I’ll leave this now, I’ve given my thoughts on the matter. I may be wrong on it, and if I am I will hold my hands up and admit it like a man.

But I won’t stomp my feet and spam posts like you aceman.

aceman39 · December 2017

I have seen pirates in some areas port camp but it is alright you have a right to say what you feel as do I

CrzyPsycoChick · December 2017

I'm actually glad that we finally had this conversation because it revealed a lot about PVP'ers quote-unquote.

Its not so much that PVP is broken it's so much of the fact that they want easy victories and tears type of PVP. Which is not a problem in itself because yes I do believe trailer versus pirate is PVP I believe any kind of player-versus-player where there is a game of matching your wits against a pirate is still PVP and I don't have an issue with what he said regarding that. The issue that I do have is that this guy is trying to CHERRY-PICK his PVP in other words he ONLY wants to fight Traders and people that he KNOWS he can win against and farm them. Where's the challenge in that?

This is proven because when I offered him the idea that perhaps he should challenge the company that kill a dub is in he immediately tried to find any and every excuse to weasel out of it. When I offered the idea that he should challenge him I didn't mean just in "scheduled conflict" I was referring to something along the lines of killadub you and your entire company can no longer pirate in EA or calicut anymore or you're no longer allowed anywhere that we're pirating we're taking over EA something along those lines that's unscheduled conflict but this is not something he has his mind on he doesn't want to be plundered by maritimers that can fight back. With that said how is PVP broken when there are active challenges there are things you can do as an individual to facilitate Maritime yourself but you refused to take it.

Therefore it isn't that PVP is broken it's the fact that he's broken he's broken in the aspect that he's grown stagnant and too "comfortable" and knowing that he can win his victories against traders as opposed to the uncertainty and danger of facing someone on an equal level. At some point you have to grow some balls you have to face challenges you have to face adversity you can't just say oh if the person can fight back I'm bored you can have preferred maritime yes, but you can't make that the DEFAULT maratime you seek is what I'm saying.

This is why no one is taking the argument and the suggestion seriously because you're not actively seeking equal challenges you only want to fight and farm people that are no challenge. This is proven because what has he done to facilitate his own maritime has he challenged this company has he offered any events has he tried to strong-arm any other company has he organized his Nation against another Nation or declared Hes the best and anyone who thinks differently meet them on the seas? You get what I mean he's just sitting back literally LITERALLY waiting for only whites who can't fight back to challenge him if that's what quote-unquote Maritime is supposed to be according to you and the other companies then I'm sorry thats called being a coward stop sugar coating it .

So you need to stop hiding under the guise that PVP is broken when it is not PVP it's your desire to face a challenge that's broken. I dare you I DARE YOU to tell killadub and his company that they can no longer pirate in the area that they have and you will be taken over and that you're now the top best company I dare you I guarantee you you will not do it because you're afraid and will prove my point. Tell me that won't facilitate Maritime but you won't do it let's see what you do tough guy you talk to these white names tough but let's see you do it to another Maritime let's see everyone watch what he does. Watch him find any excuse to weasel out of facing an opponent on equal footing in UNSCHEDULED combat. Game time will you do it yes or no or is your desire for a PVP challenge only activated when its a white name?

[Waits for Naver's next excuse to back out]

aceman39 · December 2017

Naver has created another post pointing out how to make PVP like another game he plays saying it would make UWO popular. He forgets the other game he is talking about is a PVP game. Wake up Naver UWO is not just a PVP game and that is what you keep missing is that there are other ways this game is played. Like CPC said you only want to hit traders and not other maritimers cause you know they are just as good or better then you and will give you a fight you crave. Traders you know are easy targets so you desire to win easy fights and not any with a challenge. What a fool you are

CrzyPsycoChick · January 2018

Hmmm I wonder where this guy disappeared to

CrzyPsycoChick · January 2018

I asked would he challenge that maritime company and prove he's not just looking to win easy victories against white names and now this guy dropped off the face of the earth… interesting.

I told you all what this whole thing was really about now you see CPC wasn't lying it was never about "reviving" PVP. It was all about winning EASY victories because the thought of facing any real challenge(maritimers) was simply too frightening to endure but instead of admit it we get blamed lol.

Never ever blame white names again your silence after being asked to face them speaks volumes. Maritime isnt dead…just the desire to face a challenge is…

aceman39 · January 2018

lol I agree with you CPC he wants easy fights but boo hoo he cries about PVP being dead. Well shoot with people like him and his company doing PVP I can see why they think it is dead

viennas · January 2018

You have very strange ideas, recipe for an empty server. They have change the rules since too many people have quit the game because of overload of pirate attacks,...I'm sure, maybe you had a lot of fun in the past, but the vast majorit of traders and adventure folks did not. BH was always kinda rare, at least active one, no difference now. Hardly to spot any active BH but many pirates, as always, nothing new. I think exact the opposite, pirates have in this game far, far, to easy life, especially with new very fast adveture/battle ships.

Culvern · January 2018

@Vienna I disagree with your statement about hardly any BHs. I see 3 BHs for every pirate.
As a pirate myself, I would like to ask you to explain your statement that pirates have an easy life?
Playing as a pirate is the hardest most restrictive part of the game (I have play as all parts).
There are many rules restricting how a pirate plays. And Zero restrictions on ANY other class.
I am not complaining about the rules. I accept them as the rules I have chosen to play by.
But it appears that you do not understand the rules of play for the pirate and are just spouting off.

I usually enjoy having the game be harder to play for me, I like the extra challenge. Life as a merchant or adventure class is soooooo easy. There are no worries about anything at all other than having to throw a tribute occasionally.
Or 'oh no the market rate is not incredible'.
Not for me. No challenge.

But that is what makes UWO great. The game has something for everyone. We all play the part we enjoy. So let's not knock everyone else's chosen path especially if you have not experienced it yourself.

viennas · January 2018

@Culvern

''I see 3 BHs for every pirate.''

It's totally exaggerated, the ratio between active pirates and active BH is about 10:1. If there would be really 3 BHs for every pirate, people would never complain in this game about too high amount of piracy, and they often did in the past and now is getting (slowly but surely) the same picture. This game had always problems with high piracy because it's easy to do it, especially with more and more fast galleys and other fast battle ships. Far less people choose to be a BH because it's much harder to do it, there is a difference between sinking clippers, traders without any battle skills,..or sinking battle players with battle ships. A very big difference.

Culvern · January 2018

Of course sinking trade ships is easier.
I just look around seville and see many blue name and only a handful of red.
I also ddont believe that piracy is out of control like everyone is saying, or at least what a few of you are saying. I rarely see another pirate at sea. I do see many BHs, though most do not chase after me for whatever reason.
The game has yet to introduce a fast galley yet and there are MANY fast trade ships already. That will change someday of course.

stoicc11 · January 2018

I agree with OP on implementing a more realistic piracy system. I wonder if OP would agree to following changes that I think are indispensable in ANY piracy system anyone could call "realistic":

1. pirates cannot enter neutral ports. If they attempt to enter, they must pay tribute to the city proportional to their infamy

2. pirates cannot invest in neutral ports. Also, once they turn pirates, any rank they held will be reset to 1 (separate pirate rank may apply to pirates)

3. Related to 2., pirates cannot utilize any bonuses that national ranks provide (e.g. increased vaults, lowered tariffs, etc.)

4. pirates cannot receive quests from neutral ports.

I hope OP is not staging a protest for a system where pirates have all the advantages, and receives literally NO PENALTY. Being chased by BH is NOT a penalty existing within the game's system. It's literally the same mechanics where pirates chase traders. BHs are limiting their blood thirst to only pirates.

I understand that papaya cannot implement any changes that touches on the core system of this game on its own. Be that as it may, I hope this game really introduces a more realistic piracy system which depicts pirates as they were - life on the lam. Pirates should only find refuge in pirate ports, or any ports they managed to capture. At the very least, pirate players should not be allowed to enter capitals such as Sevilla or Lisbon freely. If the game cannot even implement that, I would call any attempt at a more realistic piracy system garbage, and a total fail

Culvern · January 2018

Well you Obviously have never played as a pirate!
Pirates DO have to pay to get into capitals (500k - 1m)
Can't pull quests in ANY city (with +10k noto).
Can't hit anyone more than once in 24 hrs, can get farmed Anywhere by anyone, can't use private mode to hide in search. Lose fame with every hit on same nation.
So you suggest even more rules against pirates?
Try playing as one for a bit, I would guess you would change you view.

Grenian · January 2018

All I really see here is yet another post where Naver is crying. It doesn't matter how much money you spend you aren't going to get everything you want. Stop acting entitled.

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