Characters have now 0 benefits

R3voxWR · January 2018

Hello Administrators,

I think that having taken the characters's benefits to 0% is unfair.

Okay, nerfing them... I agree, but taking them to 0% it's not correct for who paid those characters.

I bought a thing for its features and now that thing has no more features.

What the hell??

I don't agree with this changement.

I repeat... I agree to nerf them but not to take them down o 0% of benefits.

GalizaCalidade · January 2018

I agree.
I had bought and paid the characters skins to gain some defence.
Now I'm pretty sure many people bought it for the same reason paying money for it and now losing all the characteristics for the which they paid is not fair.
We paid for something and then they took it away.

So either return our money back or return the advantages we paid for.

N0HCH0 · January 2018

R3voxWR

Before when I talked about this you all were laughing.

Now I'm laughing.

You are to blame.

You yourself allowed to change the characteristics.

Admins have the right to change the characteristics ))))

Read small letters in the rules ))))))

N0HCH0 · January 2018

Boomerang always comes back ))))))))

Now where is your applause ?

Sorry for my bad english )))))))))

p0wner1180 · January 2018

I kinda like it this way. Characters should have zero advantages, the thing is they should implement that you have to buy certain parts for some specific characters, which give you some little advantages. But not make them OP like we seen before with the Gina and Sarah characters.

I have to be honest, I bought Gina once because of the big advantage you have against someone who does not have a character, but it doesn't botter me at all anymore, really.

Of course it's some kind of a rip off, because 90% who bought skins did it for the advantages you get, but in order to keep WarRock alive and gain more players, we definitely need this kind of updates. And the majority of the people on the forums agreed with these changes because there were several topics about this matter were it could be discussed. What you will see now is mad people who never read forums and they will complain about this on the forums, when it's too late.

Good update in my opinion, fights get more real right now and more fair IMO. Goodjob Papaya!

p0wner1180 · January 2018

But I can understand it comes as a big shock that most of the characters got 0% advantages immediately after the update with no announcement. Papaya should've communicate better at that point.

N0HCH0 · January 2018

p0wner1180

At the forum 5 or 6 people discussed these benefits.

Why from 5 or 6 people decided for all who spent money???

Where is the compensation or replacement purchased items???

Why is the opinion of the players who paid the money no one cares???

We are not cash bags for admins - we are players who have been with this game since 2006y.

This is a fraud .

The game added other benefits and again for the money.

We already paid Nexon.

Papaya you want us to pay again for what we had?

p0wner1180 · January 2018

@NOHCHO

Since your always negative about anything what happens to the game. Just will never understand why they did this update.

They asked us several times how WE as a COMMUNITY think about the characters and parts. I've never seen a comment where somebody said ''let keep it as it is because we paid for it''. That's a stupid argument really, especially if you see this game dying because of people only using P2W stuff and characters only.

Like I said earlier on, they (Papaya) should've informed us more about this update coming. Neverthless it's a good thing Papaya did it.

Unfortunately there will always be some players like you who blame everyone and anything for being bad ingame, and needing P2W stuff, like you do. Why don't you get the point, WarRock is dying and there need to be some urgent changes or the servers will be empty within a year.

Keep disliking everything, your acting like a real child and obviously don't care about this game. Otherwise you should've understand this update.

Nuffiii · January 2018

I am totally fine with the idea of removing those extra stats from all characters if it is done for balancing reasons.

But
in this case this obviously is not the case since they introduced a
whole new equipment category called "tactical gear". There one can buy
items that provide even more op stuff like autorepair if vehicles are
damaged, auto medic and other not needed stuff that should not exist.

Thus
removing those character stats while introducing a new "you have to pay
for it monthly if you like it"-category is nothing but a new punch in
the customers face from Dream Execution. Removing extra stats with the
sole intention to make /force players to pay again is...

THANK YOU DE FOR ANOTHER SENSELESS UPDATE FULL OF STUFF NOBODY WANTS WHILE IGNORING THE KNOWN PROBLEMS!

And again...

Awesome
how our new publisher continues the Nexonian "communicate with our
customers? *yikes*"-tradition. Must be hard to write a "Hey guys, we
plan to remove this and introduce that instead"-topic when one is buys
with starting countless "Which items do you want / Which balancings do
you hope for / Which improvements do you desire"-threads which will all
need to nothing.

N0HCH0 · January 2018

p0wner1180

The game was destroyed by admins from Nexon with their hackers.

I and other players are not to blame.

We bought for real money items that we liked.

Nobody asked our opinion.

Give a link to this topic.

The game destroyed hackers, overclockers, errors in the game, attitude of the administration to the players, problems with connecting to the server.

Taking away from property ADMINS were obliged to offer something else to choose .

I welcome improvements but I am against fraud with someone else's property.

Do not think that we are stupid and do not understand what is happening.

Previously players could discuss the game and problems in Wasta.

But it was specially closed so that the players were scattered and did not have a common opinion.

Killingtime · January 2018

No need for bonus stats in PVP because thats just pay2win and pay2win has already killed the game enough, now its time to recover the game instead of breaking it more.

But for PVE the bonus stats are totally fine, so they could make them work for PVE only, also introducing more PVE modes would be cool too.

The gear stuff is pay2win too but it doesn't seem as bad, still I don't think thats right, we either need a mode that doesn't allow any pay2win stuff or everything to be purchseable with dinar, also since there is so much stuff to buy f2p players would run out of dinar really fast so people would still pay for things. (not to mention that there are better and more healthy ways of making money than pay2win)

R3voxWR · January 2018

I read all the comments right there.

First thing for @N0HCH0:

What do you mean "yourself allowed to change the characteristics"?

They did a questionary, and my... MY opinion was to nerf them.

As I said I agree to the rebalancement. I agree in nerfing them. But not to take them down to 0%.

Now I don't know what the most of the players have voted, at this point I think that they voted to take them down to 0%.

But the thing that I was poiting out is that... For example:

if you buy a thing on internet and this thing is yellow, you bought it because it's yellow and you like that color. When they receive your order they have no more yellow stuff so they send you a red stuff.

You would like to be refunded because you paid for a thing that was yellow and into the description was written "YELLOW".

Same thing here. I bought a thing that had (for example Surgeon) less SP usage. Now they removed it and that benefits isn't available anymore.

Now I want a refund because it's not what I paid for.

Yeah having a balanced game is a good idea. I agree. But not at these conditions.

They want new/more players into the game, okay... But this thing goes against the old players who paid.

This is the thing I'm try to explain.

For @p0wner1180:

Yeah, they should have informed us before. They should have communicated this.

Another thing, we cannot do anything if Nexon broke the game selling thousand stuffs.

As they nerfed many weapons they should have nerfed the skins too but not totally.

Seeya,

R3vox

R3voxWR · January 2018

Oh I forgot...

They keep the characters to 0 benefits, and then they add parts that gives you HP when you kill enemies.
LOL? #sense?

Seeya,

R3vox

ikPl448 · January 2018

I already knew at the time Nexon was selling permanent characters and weapons the next publisher would change it, one way or the other.

People have bought permanent characters (with free stuff included?) for 5 dollars (!) and think they they're good to go for years to come.

Nexon is at fault much more than Papaya. Get your act together, seriously :s

For years on end this game has been pay2play so it's not a bad thing they are changing it.

N0HCH0 · January 2018

R3voxWR

They removed our items for which we paid money and put up for sale the same but different shapes and colors. XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

P.S.

This month I do not spend 340 euros on the game as in January.

R3voxWR · January 2018

@N0HCH0 you didn't get what I meant.

ikPl448 · January 2018

340 euro's Haha..:-)

N0HCH0 · January 2018

IKPL448

What did they offer us in return for those things that we bought?

They offered to buy the same advantages again for money.

Where is the logic?

Screen for spectacle "HOW MAKE MONEY AGAIN" rebalancement weapons, characters

N0HCH0 · January 2018

IKPL448

If you do not believe the video on my channel with inventory and purchase history.

N0HCH0 · January 2018

R3voxWR

friend of a thing should be by their own names and not be afraid that someone does not like it.

We were deceived and we will not change anything.

But we have the right to say that we are not idiots.

nickrugby · January 2018

I think your same thing...put the benefit of characters to 0% and putting in the shop new objects that are op and make the same things of dresses...a way to make this game more p2w.

Next patch will be a nerf for the weapons retails bought with gamefirst/nexon etc like you've done with the characters?

papatico100 · January 2018

Buf ... where to start.
Let's start here. Because you remove the characteristics of a skin, for which at least me and my clan have paid for them and now you remove them. So I want the skins if they do not give anything, for that I buy other things or I just do not throw the money in a thing that they will edit it.
My opinion is this, if you put an object and sell it from the beginning, do not touch it anymore, since people buy it for that. If there is someone who cries for the characteristics that are held because bother players who pay for players who do not pay, they will take you to resell the Warrock again ... For my part if the skins are not put back to the normality or at least without returning what we have spent on the skins, I will leave the game, and it is a shame after so many years. What I'm not going is to waste my money or my time, to spend money again for new skins that come out, for having removed the previous ones ...

papatico100 · January 2018

Why remove the stats on character skins and don't give back the wrc or something to the player bought only for stats?

Voltad · January 2018

I agree there must had been a better communication from Papaya either be using twich, facebook, forum or website?

We must understand these changes can be altered and maybe they will give bake some buffs.

I don't know if it is true, but I feel some caraters have diferent hit boxes and the way they look influence the way I react and aim.

I didn't like some of the new tactical gear, but loved the PvE ones and that we can get them for free.

The tatical gear that buffs BG and CQC players it's unfair for new players, they shouldn't exist. Please nerf them, sell them for way more WRC and let us buy them with dinar.

You must give us the possibility to play in ESL rooms as there is for creating premium only rooms.

Let me just finish by saying that spending 300 euros in a game is sad and unhealthy. I agree you should have what you paid for, but if there aren't changes like this you will only play with zombies in the future.

N0HCH0 · January 2018

VOLTAD

If the admins want to equalize the players they could give free of charge what they have canceled from us.

They do not want to give free skins for everyone , but they want to cancel what they paid for to sell again.

p0wner1180 · January 2018

@NOHCHO

Spending 340 Euro's a month on this game, lol please don't ever do that again. Money waste bro :P

Now I get it that you are frustrated about this character balance haha.

Mrterr0r · January 2018

You paid for an advantage every game you play and now its been taken away and you all cry! BooHoo

People soon forget they are using theses overpowered items / weapons and get deluded and think its there skill level all the while flaming in F2 chat about how good they are, get rekt kid, your a freekill having stacked teams or rejoined after spending 100s of pounds on the game.

Now to remove fast reload, fast charge, stamina and med stick, bandages and all the other items that can be bought that give a player an in game advantage thanks to a direct debit! Then maybe papaya can start work of the balance side of this game and stop the same people stacking teams, or the same people rejoining every single game! and maybe find away for force players to play across every map rather then continually spam the same map / same side over and over!

Auto teams, Auto map, Auto sides, No rejoining once game started and restart the KD scores!

N0HCH0 · January 2018

p0wner1180

It's not about the money.

It's a matter of contempt and lying .

Today it happened to us and tomorrow will happen to another gamers .

N0HCH0 · January 2018

mrterror

You will understand everything when admins change the characteristics of your mpx autumn.

If you delete this weapon( MPX AUTUMN) I will delete 3 permanent weapons.

I bet you will not go for it )))

Mrterr0r · January 2018

@nohcho

When using the MPX with 1-4 slots and no premium advantage does this make the weapon overpowered? Have had this issue with others in game and they cannot grasp the fact i am using just one main weapon vs there three... 3rd,5th,8th + all the other paid for items that make killing them harder then it should be!

Thats why your crying about losing some stats and I am happy to see the game heading towards a more balanced outlook between players. Its time to end the paid for advantage.

I showed you mine wanna show me yours ;p

Capture1

N0HCH0 · January 2018

mrterror

Let's see who the admins choose.

Me who brings them income or you who does not want to spend anything.

You have the right not to waste, but I have the right to have what I paid for.

Do not say that I cry or you get a video like cheifwahoo )))

Characters have now 0 benefits

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