You have no rights! Read the TOS you gave up any rights when you agreed to them. Now post up your transaction history... You still have the customizable character skin which can be used in game so what is your issue? Are you complaining about your paid for advantage by way of increased stats over other players who have not purchased these character skins?
Wow, you guys are now butthurt about the characters only being visual and not giving a clear P2W advantage? Papaya did a great job to bite the bullet and remove the stats. Nexon was the one who introduced this system, you decided to invest in it and destroyed the game together with the publisher. Papaya is not to blame and surely shouldn't give any refund or compensation (just like the T&C says).
As I wrote in another thread, there will always be people angry about changes because they feel like they have the 'right' to have something. Get off your high horse and use your brain cells to think about the greater good, which is keeping the game alive.
What I don't understand is why NOHCHO is not banned from the forums yet, every self-respecting forum moderator would have done that a long time ago.
I would have prefered to see the Skins nerfed. Like everything can be 5% Max or somth. But to remove the stats completely is ok too in my opinion. I see that everyone "paid" because of the stats and now everyone lost what they paid for but hey xD Guys the Stats arent as OP and Needed as you think (check the Link) . So Chill.
I am sure you all remember that we held a poll not long ago regarding a possible Character Balance.
After looking at the results, we noticed that a majority wanted characters' stats to be set to 0 - yes, we even checked and many users who have characters voted this too.
I bet you guys will understand this and we hope that this will change the game for better. You probably agree with me that many characters had a lot of stats, and this was eliminating some of the competitive gaming.
This is a very good change [HGM]Cheerful , Wr is all about skills. Next step: nerfting the aw50 like they did on korean warrock, this way we'll get rid of campers on mountains and buildings outside the map.
If you remove / reduce character stats to balance the game... not nice from a certain point of view since the players paid for it, but ok.
You guys removed those stats users paid for and introduced a whole new item catagory granting new not balanced adavntages. Sole difference: The new items are all 30days / purchase.
Basically you simply replaced the bonus stats that will not generate any further income with a new bonus stats system that generates new income every 30 days.
So please do not take your players for fools by telling us it was done for game balancing reasons. We are not dumb.
Nocho, there are tons of posts and topics which quote that the game needs some serious balancing. And of course the character skins were mentioned there multiple times. Either to be nerfed or removed. Yes, there has been a poll some time ago but the only one i remember was a poll about an update. But this was one started by a normal user thus nothing to be recognized as anything like "official".
But finally it does not matter if there was a poll or not since its result would not have any binding value at all. So don't try to force them to show you any evidence that they informed or asked us before. They neither need to show it since there is no rule that requires them to communicate changes like that before. Actually the ToS state that they can change anything whenever they like without any further notice or compensation and all of us accepted that by joining Papapya.
There is no "no information before" and "they took something from us" since it is covered by the ToS.
As stated before, this change was based on the survey we conducted a while back. The vast majority of the players have chosen for it to be this way.
Furthermore, not ALL stats are lost. Characters parts such as Duffle Bag, the muffler, iron mask, gloves, and the WRC purchased ones still give your character a little bonus.
And Nuffiii dont wrote that money was stolen. Read carefully. I have see many players in this last years in the forums of the publishers. You be one of the Top 10 of my private Honk list Natcho!
Surely you are against any change of the game. You have bought yourself for real money advantages you now sorely miss. Almost every post from you is this Mimimi: I bought this for the values and they have to stay, otherwise I don't spend any more money! No matter how nonsense these extra values were. Being a heavy trooper in the bikini costume is better than being filed against hits than in the standard costume for me as a player is a horror since the beta. And you have your signature stating that you are a beta player and write here that you have something against changes? The game now has absolutely nothing to do with Warrock what I got to know and love in the beta. At that time you could only access weapons which you could unlock by level and there were no EXP events. Honestly? You are a player who started playing at the time of Nexon and was fascinated by all these flashing weapons and accessories. You never played the K2 version. Someone who would buy himself an Antikick item because he is constantly kicked because no one wants him in the team can somehow not be normal.
Just my opinion, Papaya is basically stating to the players of warrock that the 50 or so who comment in forums speak for every single player this isn't the fact, secondly in any business if someone pays for a product thats advertised and then later this product changes a refund or compensation should be given this is basic right if not then this is fraud. SO MY VIEW IS THAT STOP SPENDING MONEY ON WARROCK U BUY TODAY THEY COULD CHANGE 2MORROW, IF A COMPANY IS HAPPY TO FRAUD ITS CUSTOMERS ONCE THEY WILL DO IT AGAIN!
anything u buy can be taken away this is what papaya is doing. They say to make fair gameplay, but then release pay monthly for p2w no compensation for players who bought skins, whats to stop them doing this to everything u buy? papaya to take the opinions of 50 players in forums over 500-1000 players (being nice) in game is stupid its fraud at the very least unless they offer wrc back.
They take stats from characters legit players have paid for with no warning or compensation, but do nothing about clockers who are killing the game. NICE JOB PAPAYA!!!! (SARCASM) u have countless unlegit players xbloodx commando etc etc who clock every day with no bann and community is so bad now nobody kicks the clockers cause theres that many.STOP TAKING MONEY AND DOING NOTHING FOR IT!!
I completely support Free2Play gaming so I am OK with removing the stats of cash characters. I bought them for good looking so its not that bad for me.
However I think it is a little bit sad situation because people spent real money for these items which you removed.
I wish all the best for WarRock.
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They plain and simple lied about balancing the game. All they did is removing the bonus stats that do not create any further income and replaced them by new pay every month anew bonus stats called "tactical gear".
Chain Earring – all classes Defend your head and gain HP +10%
P2W - Paying again for protection.
- thats not 100% Right. It doesnt Protect yourselfe.It cooperates with the HS defense Stats from Characters. If you got an HS defense --> You will get 10% HP.
Smart Sensor – 3rd slot for Heavy Trooper Enemy’s vehicle EXP shown when crosshair is located on it
P2W- Lame... just like the death cam, red dot and gps.
- Thats not as OP as you think. Its works like Scoping with Javelin or with Stinger. Just without Lock on. You just see the Location.
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Now post up your transaction history... You still have the customizable character skin which can be used in game so what is your issue? Are you complaining about your paid for advantage by way of increased stats over other players who have not purchased these character skins?
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http://forum.papayaplay.com/index.php?p=/discussion/355925/explanation-how-does-the-character-stats-work
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Next step: nerfting the aw50 like they did on korean warrock, this way we'll get rid of campers on mountains and buildings outside the map.
You guys removed those stats users paid for and introduced a whole new item catagory granting new not balanced adavntages.
Sole difference: The new items are all 30days / purchase.
Basically you simply replaced the bonus stats that will not generate any further income with a new bonus stats system that generates new income every 30 days.
So please do not take your players for fools by telling us it was done for game balancing reasons. We are not dumb.
since korean ver 2005y
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFvaKyOXvxWCtuWJAKmchQA/videos?view_as=subscriber
there are tons of posts and topics which quote that the game needs some serious balancing. And of course the character skins were mentioned there multiple times. Either to be nerfed or removed.
Yes, there has been a poll some time ago but the only one i remember was a poll about an update. But this was one started by a normal user thus nothing to be recognized as anything like "official".
But finally it does not matter if there was a poll or not since its result would not have any binding value at all. So don't try to force them to show you any evidence that they informed or asked us before. They neither need to show it since there is no rule that requires them to communicate changes like that before. Actually the ToS state that they can change anything whenever they like without any further notice or compensation and all of us accepted that by joining Papapya.
There is no "no information before" and "they took something from us" since it is covered by the ToS.
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I really angry with you papaya.... Here have another 100
Nocho, you made my day. Granting those who from your point of view stole you something another 100€ while telling them this is the last time...
PRICELESS! xD
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Read carefully.
I have see many players in this last years in the forums of the publishers.
You be one of the Top 10 of my private Honk list Natcho!
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFvaKyOXvxWCtuWJAKmchQA/videos?view_as=subscriber
You have bought yourself for real money advantages you now sorely miss.
Almost every post from you is this Mimimi:
I bought this for the values and they have to stay, otherwise I don't spend any more money!
No matter how nonsense these extra values were.
Being a heavy trooper in the bikini costume is better than being filed against hits than in the standard costume for me as a player is a horror since the beta.
And you have your signature stating that you are a beta player and write here that you have something against changes?
The game now has absolutely nothing to do with Warrock what I got to know and love in the beta.
At that time you could only access weapons which you could unlock by level and there were no EXP events.
Honestly? You are a player who started playing at the time of Nexon and was fascinated by all these flashing weapons and accessories.
You never played the K2 version.
Someone who would buy himself an Antikick item because he is constantly kicked because no one wants him in the team can somehow not be normal.
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFvaKyOXvxWCtuWJAKmchQA/videos?view_as=subscriber
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They plain and simple lied about balancing the game. All they did is removing the bonus stats that do not create any further income and replaced them by new pay every month anew bonus stats called "tactical gear".
Veteran Divination – all classes
Increases the Attack of your secondary weapon by 15% if your HP is lover than 30%
P2W - A veteran should not need a stats boost coz hes low on health. Thats what happens when you get shot!
Survival Earring – all classes
Gain EXP+50 when killing 50 mad men
Dont effect me
Chain Earring – all classes
Defend your head and gain HP +10%
P2W - Paying again for protection.
Squad Member Earring – all classes
Gain EXP 30% when breaking the assist record
Dont effect me
Emergency Repair Set – all classes
Recover your vehicle’s HP by 5% every 3 seconds when it sinks to 40% or less
P2W > already bad enough with rocket spammers in the sky now they can fix even faster! While firing 20 rockets that all miss!
Blood Necklace – all classes
Increases your attack by 2% every time 50 madmen are killed
Dont effect me... AI
Armor Necklace – all classes
Increases your Defence by 10% when killing 100 mad men
Dont effect me... AI
Special Ring – all classes
Removes the explosion effect on your screen
P2W - Removing in game effects is lame again offering people who pay an advantage!
Engineer Ring – all classes
Receive EXP when repairing a broken vehicle
Dont effect me
Smart Sensor – 3rd slot for Heavy Trooper
Enemy’s vehicle EXP shown when crosshair is located on it
P2W- Lame... just like the death cam, red dot and gps.
Heavy Fire – 4th slot for Heavy Trooper
Gain +100 Dinar when destroying enemy’s vehicle with a heavy weapon
Dont effect me
Small Oxygen Tank – all classes
Increases your swimming speed by +1.4 times and removes oxygen gauge limit.
Should be in game for all to use. Would make moving around water maps easier. Though does not really effect me. But still P2W .
Triple Hunter – 5th slot for Assault
Recovers HP +20% immediately when triple/hexa killing
P2W- Just killed 3 people why do they need a HP boost?
Revenge Earring – all classes
Killing the enemy that killed you recovers your EXP by +15%
Dont effect me
Fast Ladder Ring – all classes
Increases your ladder climbing speed by +1.4 times
Dont effect me
Blood Bag – all classes
Increases attack towards mad men by +6%
Dont effect me
Survival Training Book – all classes
Receive EXP +10 when rolling
Dont effect me
Army Extinguisher – all classes
Prevents vehicles from catching fire
P2W- Its part of the game that vehicles catch fire again removing effects to allow ppl who pay to remove it.
Heavy Fire - 4th slot for Heavy Trooper
Rewards you with 100 Dinar when destroying your enemy's vehicle
Dont effect me
Compensation Back - all classes
Compensates you with +20 Dinar when dying
Dont effect me
Defend your head and gain HP +10%
P2W - Paying again for protection.
- thats not 100% Right. It doesnt Protect yourselfe.It cooperates with the HS defense Stats from Characters. If you got an HS defense --> You will get 10% HP.
Smart Sensor – 3rd slot for Heavy Trooper
Enemy’s vehicle EXP shown when crosshair is located on it
P2W- Lame... just like the death cam, red dot and gps.
- Thats not as OP as you think. Its works like Scoping with Javelin or with Stinger. Just without Lock on. You just see the Location.
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