I agree with HelloAll if we want this game to survive then we should work together. Now I am a PVP'er but for the ones who are they should work together and also help ones that want to get better at PVP to become pirates or BH. If the most experienced ones don't want to help then step out of the damn way and let the ones who want to help to help. I and HelloAll might have not agreed on everything but I have to agree with his latest post. Navar you have a whole company that are pirates. Stop crying and work together with others who want to learn and get together as PVP"ers and help revise it and help it grow and not cry about wanting to farm people and move on past that argument
Have you noticed how his original posting has been forgotten? Most of the people responding on this thread haven't even been the people he was talking to. HelloAll I hope you have some success in getting pirates together.
I think one of the reasons why long-term Maritimers aren't interested in the idea is because UWO has developed a bit of a 'vets culture'. Long-term players who are only interested in playing an end-game. And as far as they are concerned a pirate alliance has no part to play in the end-game.
They forget they were yesterday's noobs, and that today's noobs are tomorrow's vets. UWO is a long game. There is a lot of learning to do. New players can be put off by the expectation they can't have any fun until they get to the end game.
And I reckon they get doubly put off by vet attitudes which are arrogant and cliquey.
I'd like to see vets step back a bit and let newer players take a lead. And like others have said support the players with ideas.
Vets can also hold back the development of the game by insisting it has to be just like it was, or has to be some perfect form which supports their end game. UWO has to adapt to a smaller population. It will never be the same as in the past. So vets must stop allowing newer players to develop new ideas.
So all that means maybe it is time to try a pirate alliance.
lefox271"I think one of the reasons why long-term Maritimers aren't interested in the idea is because UWO has developed a bit of a 'vets culture'. Long-term players who are only interested in playing an end-game. And as far as they are concerned a pirate alliance has no part to play in the end-game.
They forget they were yesterday's noobs, and that today's noobs are tomorrow's vets. UWO is a long game. There is a lot of learning to do. New players can be put off by the expectation they can't have any fun until they get to the end game.
And I reckon they get doubly put off by vet attitudes which are arrogant and cliquey.
I'd like to see vets step back a bit and let newer players take a lead. And like others have said support the players with ideas.
Vets can also hold back the development of the game by insisting it has to be just like it was, or has to be some perfect form which supports their end game. UWO has to adapt to a smaller population. It will never be the same as in the past. So vets must stop allowing newer players to develop new ideas."
I agree with lefox271.
I haven't been a pirate (yet) so I come from a different viewpoint, and don't support a "pirate alliance". But the "veterans culture" really does hurt maritime and the game as a whole. It leaves little room for growth.
aceman39, it doesn't really matter if they work together. The problem isn't maritimers getting along. The problem is the traders and adventurers who want to skew the game play in favor of their own, who want maritimers/pirates/privateers to take a back seat to their playstyle. The people who have whined, and cried, and shot down every possible maritimer "buff" (really a partial unnerf) because they don't want to risk having to fight.
I've made solid points in the past, such as greatly reducing the amount of time that has to take place to hit a player again in lawless waters, and you specifically, along with a few others, come along and downvote it, simply because you want things to be safe, all the time.
Now, you're trying to put the reason for maritimers being crotchety, onto the maritimers? Nope. They are upset because the traders were heard much more loudly, and it destroyed their fun. Which caused a lot of them to give up and leave, which removed a lot of the danger, and thereby excitement from the game, which caused a lot of traders to leave.
This game is like Yellowstone after the Wolves were all hunted out (before being reintroduced). Without the Wolves, the Elk bred to huge numbers, they no longer became afraid to always be near rivers, which caused them to kill off the aspen and willow growths, which were the food of the beavers, the beavers left, which caused the river to become shallower, and less healthy for the fish. Or, the other route, it allowed the coyote population to boom, which killed the rodent population, which caused the birds of prey, eagles and such to leave the area.
It's all a cascade effect. The traders who hate maritime cried until they damn near killed this game.
I never wanted your respect nor asked to be paid for playing this game.
I am stating the fact that this game is having right now but just you guys are taking it as 'negative'.
I am referring myself because I have enough of both roles, PvP and Trader experience myself while you skill-less traders don't.
Just like I said your plan for pirates alliance or hunter alliance or whatever is just more of having boredom in maritime community.
We don't want more bs temporary no fun shitty events like CPC.
We want permanent PvP system that we used to have initially before skill-less traders were crying so hard. (Patch : El Oriente)
From the piracy limitations we had, population fell down to ground. I know it because I was managing PvP co and I saw it myself and heard their opinions before they quit.
I still remember I had to recruit again because many of maritimers quit during that time.
Currently only those maritimer wannabe left in UWO that doesnt require any skills and tactics.
Just like I said no skill required in UWO anymore.
You want to revive Maritime community while you refuse to support their voice?
Keep dream on. :))
From Feb I will be busy so will not respond anymore. So good luck with all the bs empty talking. None of maritimers will support you. Try it. o.o
"The more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face." - Donald J. Trump "Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump "The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
You know Naver maybe if you stopped calling people names to make yourself feel like you have power people will listen to you but calling traders skill less is BS traders have to grind skills and raise levels but hey we are once again called names by a fool.You cry about maritime nerfs and blame merchants and adventurers maybe you should look in the mirror. And see it was a lot of the pirates fault and to have a competition between maritime rs is so beneath you.And then you say mari are bored boo hoo keep crying it is getting old
I normally ignore your comments but I will award you once for being a most smartest person among skill-less traders.
"traders skill less is BS traders have to grind skills and raise levels"
OK! then we should call everyone with high level's as professional players.
Yay! I see many high level traders are sitting in Seville, they look very professional and should have no problem with pirates freedom!
"You cry about maritime nerfs and blame merchants and adventurers maybe you should look in the mirror."
My proposal is reviving whole UWO community and we had this platform before. Just you don't know it because you weren't there. Cannot compare the population. Skill-less traders like you were crying so hard during that time. So whats wrong with crying to restore since we are having such a greatest failure with the current system that skill-less traders deserved? You mean skill-less traders can cry but maritimers can't? Wow! You guys are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic and you name it! What a basket of deplorables!
"And see it was a lot of the pirates fault and to have a competition between maritime rs is so beneath you"
Wait, what are pirates' fault? This is like.. everything is Trump's fault...
I lost my job today... It's Trump's fault!!
"And then you say mari are bored boo hoo keep crying it is getting old"
Yes, it is bored. So we need to fixed it before they abandon UWO once again.
Maritimers were the ones that keeping the server open because many of them are paying players. Skill-less traders? They want free stuffs, easy works and never paying a single dime for game company.
"The more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face." - Donald J. Trump "Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump "The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
salmonrun, I've yet to see any MMO that has PvP where there aren't at least some people who name call, who insult, and where there isn't drama. It's a nice thought, but, it just doesn't happen. Even the more softcore games that have PvP, such as WoW, has a lot of drama and name calling, even outside of PvP.
Where there are a lot of people, with a lot of different personalities, and playstyles, there will be drama, and along with that goes name calling and insults.
To be honest, this is pretty mild compared to what I've seen in, lets see, UO, Everquest, Asherons Call, Shadowbane, Star Wars Galaxies, Lineage 1 and 2, Age of Conan, Aion, Archeage, Asherons Call 2, Vanguard, DAoC, Darkfall, D&DO, Eve, FFXI and FFXIV, LotRO, PotBS, RO 1&2, Rift, Silkroad, Tera, and WoW, to name a few that I played and have seen WAY more drama on than here....
this game will never be a PVP game like what all of them ask this game is max 20% pvp so stop criyng and play that all.i know a lot of player that play this game for the trading system or the Adventure 1 or even play the maritime role again npc or ganador but never again PLAYER that why this game is very fun its because everyone can do what they want without having to fight agains P2W player that only play for PVP then cry went he dont have enough 20 sec fight again trading player in a clipper
Hey, little french noob! That's called piracy. You have every methods to escape from pirates regardless of their ships. Traders should and must be afraid of pirates. That's how the game made initially. Just noobs like you, cried so hard and begged to change the original system instead of learning to deal with them.
You want easy method for maximum profit without any risk.
What's the better word than Noob? Skill-less trader? Loser?
Pirates are greedy controller of selfish noob skill-less traders who want to ruin the economy and increase the gap with new players.
I still remember how much you and your boss were sucking my dick while we were French nationality.
With current population, and with that kind of mindset, your company will still remain as alts filled company just like your boss told me few days ago.
Most of France companies are inactive and dead as fuck just like your life.
Even french players are defecting to Venice and joining us.
Should I feel happy? No, I am just worrying about this game's future as a long time UWO lover. Not for my selfish profit.
"The more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face." - Donald J. Trump "Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump "The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
CaptainQC, so, since maritimers, in your opinion, make up maybe 20% of the community, we should have our portion of the game nerfed to hell and back, which is a direct buff to your portion of the game?
Mate, you make no sense.
It's a FACT that after Piracy was nerfed, that a LOT of the pirates left the game, which caused a lot of the maritimers to leave the game, which ultimately caused a lot of traders to leave the game due to the loss of excitement, from the loss of any risk whatsoever. And it just kept cascading, as people saw their friends list dwindle, they themselves left.
Now, we have a large community of the absolute most scared traders this game has ever had. I've been playing since launch, and have only been orange once for a couple days. The rest of the time I mained a trader and then a maritimer to fight pirates, and I'm telling you, you, and those like you, are the most chickensh!t traders this game has ever seen.
@Naver Not all traders hang out at Seville I for one is not in Seville just hanging around neither is a lot of them. But wait you always know it all. You want all the nerfs to be pushed on traders so you can get your fix to attack traders repeatedly and yet you call traders skill less. If you look at your argument you prove you are skill less.You remind me of one of those people that blame everyone buy the ones who is the root of it. But once again you blame traders.
Wow! You guys are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic and you name it! What a basket of deplorables!. The funny part you accuse of being all this stuff you said but if you read how you talk towatds people wjo don't agree with you then you act like all of that. So grow up.
Yeah but yo a** sure was having a fun time participating in the UWO Battle League Sesaon 1 though...that was MY IDEA remember ?? Thats why you were pushing the lie that SaulCaine came up with it because you too prideful, dishonest and IGNORANT to admit A TRADER came up with its kind of like your idol Trump.
Naver:"We wantpermanent PvP system"
GOOD FOR YOU! EVERY OTHER PLAYER also wants a Permanent system for something that they want too welcome to the club. The thing isnt that the thing is until Koei decides to do something what will YOU do in the meantime but ill cover that in your skill less statement.
Naver:"that we used to have initially before skill-less traders were crying so hard. (Patch : El Oriente)
This is where I need to call you out on HUGE HALF TRUTH that youre deliberately avoiding. Yes traders did cry but only because pirate abused the farming mechanic and traders started quitting spooking Koei so take some of the blame for that but thats only PART of it lets touch the REAL truth... Even IF the traders were crying ...who gives the feed back to Koei and who decides what changes should come to GAMA? oh Right!! Your Martime brother Coolwind..last I checked he HATED PLUNDER and hated Land battle too. Isnt it convenient BOTH of those were removed?? Why do you keep glossing over the fact that no matter how much ANY trader complains or whines its up to ONE person to pass on the "wants" of the "server" to Koei to approve...And that ONE man is responsible for any change and most importantly Naver he was a MARITIMERa detail you keep skipping. ANY CHANGE this game goes through starts with the publisher then goes to the Developer. So put that on a maritimer not us so stop kissing maritime a** like youre not responsible as well it wasnt just traders. Papaya wanted Plunder back so they requested it and koei accepted it on OGP "HE" didnt want it and it stopped it. So stop spreading your BS narrative that it was all us. STOP BEING LIKE TRUMP TELL THE WHOLE GOT DAMN TRUTH!
Naver: Just like I said no skill required in UWO anymore.
Haha I love this comment! Us Skill Less Traders...We lack Maritime skill but apparently we DWARF you in all the other skills needed to survive. The skills you lack are adaptability, CREATIVITY because you are incapable of coming up with any ideas to survive while we can, Diplomacy because you cant form alliances and you lack the MOST important skill...Heart. You lack heart because when the going got tough you got quitting and because you cant adapt and create new ideas youre jealousy and envy make you lash out on every one else that can adapt just like Trump envying Obama he never will get that love and respect and he HATES him for it just like you :)
Maybe it is for the best you and spartan cant survive maybe its natural selection the strong adapt and survive and if youre not then you quit... Hello All may not be super skilled in maritime battle but at least he has the INTELLIGENCE to say hey this isnt working let me be more efficient and try a new way and make it work and he isnt held back by your PATHETIC bias against traders and would be open to listening to an idea from one if it could work. Therefore he is SUPERIOR in skill to you and spartan and he'll survive while you old relics and quitters of the past die out be cause you lack the worthwhile skills to survive. Koei wont help us its up to us if thats TOO MUCH for you or your brain cant process that then maybe is best you quit and leave the revival of the game to the Strong not some bias hate mongering QUITTER...
The Pirate Alliance Will work i believe in it. HelloAll if you need any help or direction or suggestion hit me in game.
"Not all traders hang out at Seville I for one is not in Seville just hanging around neither is a lot of them. But wait you always know it all."
Hey, skill-less noob. Are you having some hard time tonight or just generally having difficulties to think properly? My point was on your brainless statement "traders skill less is BS traders have to grind skills and raise levels" Even if you have 80/80/80, I am sorry but you are skill-less noob who wants to take easy way for everything.
If you still dont get what I mean, blame on your brain.
"You want all the nerfs to be pushed on traders so you can get your fix to attack traders repeatedly and yet you call traders skill less."
OK baby, if you don't want to get farmed, learn how to take the safe path and prepare enough tributes before going into lawless/hostile.
Or hire bounty hunters. It's that simple. Ok? Noob.
"If you look at your argument you prove you are skill less"
I am skill-less now so I want more skillful game plays so that I can learn and improve myself to win. I want to see more team works and tactical game plays again unlike you coward retarded.
"You remind me of one of those people that blame everyone buy the ones who is the root of it. But once again you blame traders."
Lol, stop making up the story. No one cares.
You have not much experience to prove any of your statements that you have tried to appear.
Also, I blamed those skill-less traders like you and some of above. Not those skillful traders who know the importance of having old system.
"Wow! You guys are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic and you name it! What a basket of deplorables!. The funny part you accuse of being all this stuff you said but if you read how you talk towatds people wjo don't agree with you then you act like all of that. So grow up."
You don't like it right? I don't like it too. :)
"The more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face." - Donald J. Trump "Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump "The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
For the Sea Battle League, it only worked from the competition we had between PAC, BE and LJP.
We had the competition even with bad PvP systems. Why? Because of the drama. This is not the permanent thing. You cannot entertain every maritimers in the way we enjoyed. This is the reason we fought ourselves with no fresh bloods. Papaya is worst case. Previously, old maritimers had possessions and everything ready for battle. But it has been wiped so they will think again unless there is a strong reason. My 5~6 old members who came back after I convinced, quit recently after grind their battle skills to max everything.So, Papaya will have no fresh bloods nor experienced players both unless they listen to my proposal. Hope this is clear enough for you. This is not just my opinion.
Also, quitting and playing is my choice. My time is worth a lot more than before and not willing to spend for hopeless game again. Why the hell should I take the obligation on those kind of temporary shitty events? Diplomacy? It's useless now. No need company alliance as there are no fears from pirates.
They are the one should make players interested and lead to play again. Not players should take the obligation.
As a long time player with enough of experiences on both trader and maritimer roles, I have been making a proposal for 'every' players not just for pirates or maritimers.
This is the only solution to survive for UWO and regain the population. Period.
"The more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face." - Donald J. Trump "Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump "The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
naver you know nothing about us and you know nothing about nearly every player and you need to learn what respect his am done talking with someone like you
Aceman, I don't like Naver, I don't like the way he says a lot of stuff, I don't care for the way he acts overall.
BUT, you said, "You remind me of one of those people that blame everyone buy the ones who is the root of it. But once again you blame traders.' -Aceman
Sorry, but it was traders that killed piracy, and thereby maritime, and put a hell of a dent in the games population.
Sure, it wasn't ALL traders though. It was just the really, REALLY whiney ones who believe nerfs like the 24 hr hit timer is a good thing.
If you believe that is a good nerf, then you were, and are, part of the problem with this game.
And even if it was OGP, GM's do not have power to make any changes.
All we need to do is push GM's to report our suggestions toward Koei for a possible approval.
"The more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face." - Donald J. Trump "Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump "The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
There are not enough people in this game that want maritime, if it was completely eliminated everyone would be more then happy to sail from point a to to point b with no challenge just printing money. This game was fun and worth to play before but it should die now
Thats a Lie good thing we have a long time player that was actually there to call out your lies :)
The Removal of whites to be farmed and the Level caps so you guys could stop farming low level newbies making them quit was under Netmarble
The Plunder Nerf OGP
Improved Hold 100% OGP
24 hour immunity OGP
Deck battle Removal OGP
Removal of Pillage Orders in PVP(Not Quite Sure I think this was OGP as well so I wont say 100% was OGP)
So most happened under OGP by FAR as I said GM's PUSH the suggestions to Koei. The GM can see an update and reply back hey I dont like that will hurt our money please remove that or alter that PROOF...The forged Cannon removal that occurred under OGP PROOF two How did Papaya know to ADD BACK PLUNDER and UnNerf improved hold and Deck Battle???? The GM pushes to koei. The PUBLISHER sends it to them and they decide
With that said at some point the Plunder Nerf update was on Saulwind THE MARITIMER's Desk and instead of saying oh no that will hurt maritimers Im not pushing for that you know what he did.... go head Koei I hate plunder too Nerf those cucks I dont care what happens to them its all about what I WANT! Hahahaaaaaaa your OWN maritime brother F'ed you all over and thats what makes it sooooooooo much sweeter! lol . Not that it hurt the game because I admit it did but the fact the person who dropped the guillotine on Maritime Neck was a Maritimer himself!! XD Oh the IRONY!! lol.
We cried ofc but a MARITIMER gave the Final OK to Koei to do it and NEVER tried to undo it THATS WHAT REALLY MATTERS. He Never cared about Traders or You Maritimers only himself a Man ONLY only Loyal to himself and "his" interests he did it for himself... reminds me of someone... :P
Oh and if you want an update list I can dig one up I can prove when all the updates came... :)
Once per day attack limitation was BEFORE OGPlanet.
I believe it was Episode 5. Tierra Americana at chapter 3.
Also pirates were losing equipped items and cheques if they have less than their bounty on person at that time.
Nice try to put this big piracy nerf along with other minor patches.
Those patches you have mentioned wasn't even close to piracy nerf.
One thing you misunderstood is we do not care about plunder system.
It applies to everyone. Could be nerf and could be buff depending on player's performance.
And deck removal was actually a buff for pirates if you want to know my fellow skill-less traders.
I think I have said this and explained enough so check my previous explanation.
Kind of tired of your noobness. CPC. :))
"The more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face." - Donald J. Trump "Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump "The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
Even if the 24 hr was Netmarble THE MAIN ONES that caused the exodus was the plunder nerf and improved hold the one that made ALL STEALING for piracy impossible and that was signed off by a maritimer youre trying to put the blame off Coolwind because hes a maritimer how convenient. Hes one of yours you WILL own that shame.. Those Nerfs were the ones that made it completely useless to pirate at all and made it a joke you can cry oh but the traders cant be farmed well...didnt see the mass exodus when that happened if fact YOU were still playing and when OGP came you still played after Coolwind signed off on NO more plunder of cargo or items due to improved hold. Now when the server reboot now all of sudden its simply too much to bare interesting Naver.
Coolwind a maritimer killed Piracy and thats when it died on OGP own it stop making excuses for him Traders never had a GM In power but maritimers did OWN IT.
Lastly there were many notable Deck Pirates
VIKING
Char Aznable
Bliz
Victoria Secret
PieRat_The
The entire PAC roster
Broonx
Treeskull
Terry FArrell
I could go on and on the fact is you call the Deck nerf a buff to priacybecause you suck A** at it and even the noobest of them can whoop yo a**. Funny that Mr.Skillful couldnt learn and overcome it well the ones above did in fact VIKING was probably the most successful Pirate of them all he inspired the most fear out of all of them so youre not as "skillful " as you think.
This guy Naver:
Guy quits game because he cant farm clippers
Cant Deck Battle
Cant Make deals or form alliances
Cant think of events for maritimers despite BEING a maritimer himself
Cant think of a way to overcome any remaining short comings but NEW pirate like HelloAll did
Yet this guy calls us skill less noobs look in the mirror babe you aint that skilled youre more like ...thugs just armed muscle youre not a BOSS . You think with your cannon and not with your head which is why the inevitable below will happen you spartan and rest of your "kind" of maritimer
I think the new age of pirates I think will be more cunning, maifa like , ruthless and resourceful and more effective that you ever could be and can find a way to get it done ...where you and your old relics failed. The Age of the Old Cry baby Quitter waah wahhh I cant farm clippers so I quit pirate is coming to an end and you will be replaced for more EFFICIENT and more importantly SMARTER pirates that can work together to find a way around the obstacles. If he can form a Pirate Alliance and be effective...Then WTF do we need you for? They will succeed where you failed Quitter and you'll be forgotten. Survival of the fittest
First of all Naver calls us noobs cause we don't think like his small mind does. Naver I was around since NM days and I seen people quit because pirates got everything and people rage quit cause of pirates like you. If I was a pirate and learning I would make a pirate alliance with HelloAll because it is a good idea and could work and also to make BC and maritime events to let pirates do maritime contest help people learn how to improve and to learn. But hell Naver wants it like a noob and wants it now and wants it fast instead of working towards a goal
We have been talking about once per attack limitation problem for entire thread and since the proposal I've started. You just brought up the plunder and deck which we weren't that interested.
Bringing deck battle is another NERF for pirates.
A dungeneer in a trade ship with few crew kicks pirates in high crew ship.
Very realistic and fun.
Is deck battle skillful? No, it's adding another pay to win material into PvP system.
This guy Naver:
Guy quits game because he cant farm clippers - I quit whenever I want o.o
Cant Deck Battle - Not interested in another pay to win and a 'skill-less' material
Cant Make deals or form alliances - I am actually the one that have been actively formed alliances between companies. Without freedom of pirates, I realized we do not need diplomacy.
Cant think of events for maritimers despite BEING a maritimer himself - I've organized countless of company mocks with our allies. Here are some videos to throw into your face:
It takes too much time and efforts to organize for such thing in UWO.
And it's going harder and harder as I've mentioned. Maritimers are losing interests from the more of same PvP system we had. Having freedom for pirates are the only solution to fix this problem.
Cant think of a way to overcome any remaining short comings but NEW pirate like HelloAll did
Show me the result. He didn't even started yet.
I see no pirates and no BH's.
Even GM's trying to organize GM participated BC but it was empty just like your brain.
My old maritimers were quitting after grind everything to max again from the same reason.
I am telling you again, none of maritimers will be interested in any of your temporary BS events.
If he can form a Pirate Alliance and be effective...Then WTF do we need you for? They will succeed where you failed Quitter and you'll be forgotten
Why the fuck do we need you? You have been doing nothing but spamming in world chat.
I've quit maritimer already and I do not demand you, skill-less traders to remember me nor do I care. I am just a shipbuilder and been helping many people including my company members. I will be staying UWO as long as RE and maritimer community needs me.
"The more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face." - Donald J. Trump "Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump "The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
CPC, Coolwind was a noob, and a b!tch, and he helped kill Piracy at the BEHEST of the Traders who were whining an absolute TON. Ultimately though, he was a part of the game (publisher), not a player.
Ultimately, he chose to side with what has always been the majority, the traders. Saying that it was maritimers that killed it because one fool heeded the advice of the really vocal and whiney portion of the Trading community is silly, and is a distraction. It's he equivalent of a very ell known current U.S. politician who always says, "Hey, look at what xxx has done!"
And again, I was mainly a Trader back then. I just didn't whine about being sunk, or decked, or pillaged. I recognized it as a part of the game, and a necessary part that kept the game EXCITING.
Well for HelloAll he has taken an idea from a trader to build on something your weakness due to your bias agaisnt traders would make you incapable of doing. He ran into hardship as a pirate and instead of whining and quitting… like you he actually thought of a plan and began to put it into action another thing you're incapable of adaptability. Lastly he's a nice guy people like him and he knows how to talk to people another glaring weakness of yours. Therefore he doesn't have to rely on pure maritime skill but rather his BRAIN and alliances to solve his problems. He recently announced it but even what he did Above is more than you ever could that's why you was hating on him he's everything you can NEVER be.
Naver you're obsolete you can smack talk him/us but there is no evidence supporting it won't work in fact I seen quite a few people in this very thread AGREEING its a good idea in addition to traders being TERRIFIED of the idea and we didn't need Koei to feed us like you need. See your biggest weakness and the reason you quit and now you're washed up as a Maritimer is because you only respect power lol. Power without brains or a means to enforce it is useless and that is why you failed thats why youre inferior and thats why you quit. You dont respect the thinkers and behind the scenes people the things that will make the NEW age succeed where you failed.
As far as deck if its so no skill then why couldn't you easily pick up on it? No interest right I think you're scared PAC did it but you couldn't. Not to mention any pirate with a brain could EASILY overcome a trader with deck specs by either getting deck barrier or the best way… omg pirate in an group and not let the admiral get dragged into deck omg so hard to do that fighting a clipper lollolo. You and no other maritine get no sympathy for being too stupid and anti social to avoid it if you not skilled in it you whining about it just shows again how much skill you lack.
Mocks are events but you didnt COME UP with it I mean like use your CREATIVITY and INNOVATE to think of a new one. PAC did a piracy challenge where they all competed for most kills with other companies, I came up with battle league season 1, Nellemus came up with the catch me win money challenge and his own GM sponsored event, Lodian came up with the Naval blockade of all trade hubs you know do something ORIGINAL but you lack that gift of creativity youre cliche and one dimensional just like I said and you're too lazy to put in the work so you criticize others that can.
Lastly like I said I do nothing but thats to the eye of the beholder you only see maritime and nothing else so to you its just some B****h talking and I dont mind that your mind cant comprehend the intricacies. To someone with a brain they would see a person who is creative that came up ideas for maritime, auctions in game, recently did game shows (Big Hit) ask Caddy about that, all those guides i wrote that taught many to make money and stay with this game… heck even this idea of a pirate Alliance with extortion through pirate protection and selling it as a service was also done by me. So its just like I said you're not a thinker you only see hurrr durrr can I shoot it :P… its that weakness to be unable to think create and put into motion that lead to your obsolescence and ultimately your demise.
If the idea succeeds just know you cant EVER show your face here again because you told him and anyone who would try it they would fail as well. So now its time to sit back and see Quitter if it succeeds and proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that unthinking unadapting power only Pirates(you) are obsolete to a new age of thinking cooperative devious and most important ADAPTING INNOVATIVE Pirates.
Don't think the player population is high enough for anything like this. Maritimers are not the only class losing players. Although they may be the most vocal. The seas are looking like GAMA's last 6 months. Just looks like more players are running the 2nd and 3rd toons more.
@Rhend my dear if you think Coolwind ever gave a damn about us traders you DEFINITELY Don't know him babes lol. He probably hates us just as much as Naver hates us lol. If he did anything TRUST ME it wasn't him saying omg those poor traders let me help them :) … it was for him he holds no loyalty or concern for any traders or any class for that matter. He could care less if you me naver spartan all quit or were banned by him… just being honest but regardless he was still a maritimer
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Have you noticed how his original posting has been forgotten? Most of the people responding on this thread haven't even been the people he was talking to. HelloAll I hope you have some success in getting pirates together.
I think one of the reasons why long-term Maritimers aren't interested in the idea is because UWO has developed a bit of a 'vets culture'. Long-term players who are only interested in playing an end-game. And as far as they are concerned a pirate alliance has no part to play in the end-game.
They forget they were yesterday's noobs, and that today's noobs are tomorrow's vets. UWO is a long game. There is a lot of learning to do. New players can be put off by the expectation they can't have any fun until they get to the end game.
And I reckon they get doubly put off by vet attitudes which are arrogant and cliquey.
I'd like to see vets step back a bit and let newer players take a lead. And like others have said support the players with ideas.
Vets can also hold back the development of the game by insisting it has to be just like it was, or has to be some perfect form which supports their end game. UWO has to adapt to a smaller population. It will never be the same as in the past. So vets must stop allowing newer players to develop new ideas.
So all that means maybe it is time to try a pirate alliance.
They forget they were yesterday's noobs, and that today's noobs are tomorrow's vets. UWO is a long game. There is a lot of learning to do. New players can be put off by the expectation they can't have any fun until they get to the end game.
And I reckon they get doubly put off by vet attitudes which are arrogant and cliquey.
I'd like to see vets step back a bit and let newer players take a lead. And like others have said support the players with ideas.
Vets can also hold back the development of the game by insisting it has to be just like it was, or has to be some perfect form which supports their end game. UWO has to adapt to a smaller population. It will never be the same as in the past. So vets must stop allowing newer players to develop new ideas."
Rhend - Trader
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"The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
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"Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump
"The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
"Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump
"The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
Rhend - Trader
"Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump
"The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
"Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump
"The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
"Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump
"The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
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