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Ban totally unfair!

airjubxairjubx Posts: 0Member Beginner
General Discussion
The my accounts and my neighbor's was banned 3 days ago. I didn't anything against the TOS, and at the moment of ban, our accounts was offline. I gave 2 accounts to him since OGP times. And we play at differents IPs too. 

What happened was a great fake report about us, and the GM not made the fair investigation.

Play in a 4 fleet not violate the TOS! Work together in game not violate the TOS!

We want our accounts unbanned. We are losing ducats, fame, xp, daily login for rewards...everything. 

I hope this be solved as soon as possible!
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  • CaptainQCCaptainQC Posts: 57Member Beginner
    thats True its Happen to both of my compagny player that was playing together both are ban for the same reason multibox. GM plz chek this fast you have made some mistake
  • purplepiratepurplepirate Posts: 994Member Intermediate
    so what's going on then? are we no longer able to use 5 ship fleets (different players/ips)? Everyone is getting banned for just playing with other people?
    IGN: Samantha99
  • reyes07reyes07 Posts: 2Member Beginner
    lol bye....
  • KatanauwoKatanauwo Posts: 309Member Intermediate
    Use 3ship fleet! You can multi x10 in 3 ship fleets and there will be no problems.

    You people never read my suggestions. I told you Papaya is going to ruthlessly ban any suspicious multi of 5 fleet, even it means a few innocent ppl were wrongly shot.

    Do not stand in the cross fire of the battle between Papaya and true multi of 5.
  • purplepiratepurplepirate Posts: 994Member Intermediate
    so i wonder what's gonna happen when we ESF? XD

    IGN: Samantha99
  • KatanauwoKatanauwo Posts: 309Member Intermediate
    Esf has its own problem. Multis form farming parties so one group keeps losing then disbanding. Sometimes you would see a surprising mvp with 500+ score from a non pvper name...

    But geniunely speaking there is no incentive to multi in esf other than ticket farming.
    HelloAll
  • purplepiratepurplepirate Posts: 994Member Intermediate
    i can just see it now "World anouncement: ESF event closed due to all players being banned!" XD
    IGN: Samantha99
  • CaptainQCCaptainQC Posts: 57Member Beginner
    Tx PPP your are making mistake by wrongfully ban player and 4 day later you are not responce to any ticket or in forum GM will kill the game by bannig good player for no reason
  • KatanauwoKatanauwo Posts: 309Member Intermediate
    I think the game is truly dying this time. Esf will soon become gold sellers’ farming place for event tickets which produces forged cannonsmith tools. Because there are not enough geniune players left.

    It is a falling wall now.
  • kat1234567kat1234567 Posts: 0Member Beginner
    Same for me and a company member , if we can't play in fleet with company members , limit the fleet at 3 , not 5,
  • deislermilandeislermilan Posts: 1Member Beginner
    It just happened to my 2 in-game friends yesterday, who have had exactly the same circumstances as OP's. I play with them every day so I know they didn't do anything wrong.

    The way I see this is that, while it is totally fair for people to report suspicious fleets with 4-5 players, GM should consider scenarios where real-life friends may always play together and they may sometimes log in their accounts at each other's places.

    If this continues, it will create a toxic environment in the game that stops people from fleeting together due to fear of being banned. And I certainly will think twice before fleeting other people for EA runs (as I always do to help slow ships for EA runs).
  • airjubxairjubx Posts: 0Member Beginner
    When unban our acoounts, we'll continue working together. We lost BILLIONS of ducats, discoveries, daily logins for rewards....this is a great shame!

    If Papaya Play won't 4 character fleet in game, so make a new rule: "Fleet only 3 characters". Of course that is will be a lot wrong. The game was designed for 5 character fleet. 

    As we said before, we don't commited anything against the TOS. Who must be banned is who reported us. It's funny who reports not happen anything, even if the report was a FAKE report, preventing all our game...
  • purplepiratepurplepirate Posts: 994Member Intermediate
    So as a BH, if a fleet of 3-4 traders (different players playing together) that need my help to protect them and i fleet with them to defend against pirates am i gonna be banned to (even though i only use one acc)???

    :(
    IGN: Samantha99
  • HanukkahHarryHanukkahHarry Posts: 67Member Beginner
    Anyone got some popcorn as I am really enjoying reading this thread. Looks like the new GM is also like the old GM Pissypants.
  • rangerzfanrangerzfan Posts: 96Member Beginner
    Poor management rears its head again and again. PPP is going to kill off what is left of community. 
    ign: RangerB
    Director
    DutchCourage - Amsterdam
  • WalkerDePlank1WalkerDePlank1 Posts: 215Member Trainee
    I was in Boston with my Alt JackDancer and JonSnow with his 2 alts and had someone yelling at us for being a multi. I think people are too quick to single others out. Some multis are easy to spot like some I have seen with names like XXX1 , XXX2, XXX3. XXX4, XXX5

    Complaining in the forum is not going to help...you need to contact support and have them look at the logs.

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  • purplepiratepurplepirate Posts: 994Member Intermediate
    @WalkerDePlank1 Complaining in the forum is not going to help...you need to contact support and have them look at the logs.

    I would hope they would check the logs! Just with some of these stories that people are telling i'm wondering if that's true :/
    IGN: Samantha99
  • CaptainQCCaptainQC Posts: 57Member Beginner
    Gm benya responce to me went i as in a ticket why you ban player for no reson answerd is:If you are playing with your friend,please avoid playing in the same fleet
  • HelloAllHelloAll Posts: 701Member Intermediate
    Wow so we can’t fleet with friends? honestly what’s worse seeing multi’s or not being able to fleet with friends?

    MMORPG that you have to seclude yourself in? Crazy.

    People are the problem.

    I was on my storage alt a few weeks ago trying to sell stuff I did a pc on some items after I got the pc I tried to sell them in bulk at a lower price NAPOLEON seemed to feel my price was too high even tho I want under the pc and he began to troll me in merch chat.

    I challenged him and said I went under the pc so what is the problem.

    He then In merch chat said to me “multi’s like you disgust me, I’m watching you, i got others I’ll get you”

    I have 3 toons. One that never leaves sev. A trader and a pirate.

    I have fleeted these once or twice when I’ve had ships modded, never done quests or any trading as a fleet.


    So it’s people like Napoleon that are the problem, think they run the server cos they’ve been around a while.

  • paulineannebppaulineannebp Posts: 0Member Beginner
    You may log in to a maximum of 3 accounts from the same location forget the IP address.
  • carssmancarssman Posts: 70Member Beginner
    Don’t believe these coward Multi cheaters. They got banned for good reason and are whining to get their accounts lifted.

    It’s A hole multies that destroy the game and I’m happy to report you and will continue doing so.

    Probably the same guys farming the ea goods in San Fran with 5 toons I reported and two days later same 5 toons nanban I gotta.

    salmonrun
  • HelloAllHelloAll Posts: 701Member Intermediate
    Well in that case African bully needs banning because I see him everyday in the same fleet of 5.

    Ok at times we fleet but the same people every day? Very suspicious
  • salmonrunsalmonrun Posts: 28Member Beginner
    The multi's are the cause of all the EA goods being sold in Seville 24/7 and the cause of inflation driving UP the prices of everything in the game, ships especially. It gives the multi's an unfair advantage, and I support the GMs 100% for banning them. Seen the story so many times "but they are a friend of mine". Well then prove it, otherwise accept your ban for being a greedy rule-breaker.
  • CaptainQCCaptainQC Posts: 57Member Beginner
    YES GM have made big mistake by wrongfully ban some player but even biggest mistake by give those BAN ID adreess. In my compagny 2 player lost some account by ban 1 have lost one account and other have lost two account but the biggest mistake is wen ask in ticket they have give the ID of all 3 account and now both have the ID of account they have never ever know from which player it is. so PLZ Gm look at what you do now some player have the ID adress of someone he never know in game
  • CrzyPsycoChickCrzyPsycoChick Posts: 667Member Intermediate
    Multis are not the cause of any prices going up. If anything the more stuff they bring the cheaper it will be  as they flood the market.  Supply and demand if supply is limited prices go up. The only prices that are dropping is the stuff in boxes from Boston since its flooding the market. Ie. Fine tributes,  food,  PO's everything else is going up

    Here is the proof Papaya has been cracking down HARD on multis since the server opened so please explain… 



    WHY HAVEN'T ANY OTHER PRICES DROPPED YET? 



    You guys diss people who sell in Seville well I think certain people need to spend MORE time in Seville to learn how economics ACTUALLY work. I stand by my claim no multis have EVER not even once affected my ability to buy or sell… 
    bassist5520
  • carssmancarssman Posts: 70Member Beginner
    I too have nearly reported africangrandpa as well but coudnt get a good enough screen shot.

    Let’s rid ourselves of these cheaters once and for all,, really, three toons running GF or clermonts isn’t enough!! Think about the poor newbs that have to wait half day for nanban rates to normalize because these anus’s
  • salmonrunsalmonrun Posts: 28Member Beginner
    Psycho you're entitled to your opinion even though you think you know Everything about Everything. Of course people should spend time at Seville just like people spend time at the mall, to shop, set up a bazaar, and get a feel for the current prices. That's the go-to place for shops. 

    But It's to the point you can't even get to the market keeper in Seville for all the people with EA goods set up in their bazaar. The seas are virtually empty, pointing directly to the multi-boxers, and multi's run EA dungeons too. There are some who have reached their trade level cap, but that's an exception.

    It's also a matter of choice. Some people think that the best way to win or play is to try to beat the system, and for them it's all about ducats and levels as fast as they can. I personally refuse to buy EA goods from a bazaar, it's like I'm cheating or something.Ducats gets you exp and fame, with no actual gameplay when you buy your EA goods from a bazaar. It's all personal choice, and whatever floats your boat. 
  • CulvernCulvern Posts: 646Member Intermediate
    @cpc it's true multis bring the prices down on nanban goods. But the prices on everything else goes up due to the increased amount of cash in the system. It is the most basic concept of economics, it's called inflation.
    You can claim they do not cause it but every economy in the world's history proves that wrong.
  • lefox271lefox271 Posts: 495Member Intermediate
    Nope you're wrong there @Culvern 

    Western countries have been pumping money into their economies for the last ten years - they call it "quantitative easing". And yet we've seen the lowest inflation for the last 50 years. 

    Ask any economist and they'll tell you there is nothing 'basic' about how an economy works. Economies are more like viruses - they keep adapting to change. That's why economists keep getting their predictions wrong.

    One of the issues in UWO is the impact of the restart. Most people are in much the same place development-wise, so they all want the same things at the same time. So the things you want are going to be expensive, because they are the things everybody wants.

    The other point - and I've said this before - even without Nanban, or dungeons or whatever, if you can't afford it now you wouldn't be able to afford it then. Because the plain fact is there will always be someone who will work harder for longer than you. Without Nanban the price differences may be smaller, but they would be just as unbridgeable.

    People spamming Nanban trade is a symptom of the problem - it's not the problem itself.

    And just a final point - Papaya aren't chasing the cheats because they think they spoil the economy. They're doing it because they are most likely the gold-sellers - which impacts Papaya's financial model.
  • CulvernCulvern Posts: 646Member Intermediate
    Yep I can agree with what you said.
    My point is just the basic:
    if someone is selling a ship that normally sells for 1B and two people want it, the person that has more expendable cash can pay more to get it.... Now the going rate of that ship is higher. Repeat over and over.
    I'm not saying we can stop it. I'm just saying that the person that paid 1.1b for the ship can't pretend that they are not a part of it.
    Certain players blindly deny that what they do has any impact (unless it's positive then they parade that around).

    I play as a pirate. I know I end up pissing people off. I would be ignorant to think my actions have zero repercussions. I probably have caused rage quits.
    I don't hide what I do or try to justify it.
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