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I have been fleeting and working with other pirates, but 4 or 5 pirates vs a blue flag is the same as one pirate vs a blue flag.
You just can’t attack.
I’m not suggesting they remove them I’m just venting.
But if it carries on this way there will be no pirates and no need for anyone to buy a blue flag, but also the pirates are spending a lot in the cash store at the moment. We need fast battle ships and we need speed boosts.
Today I was at sea for over 1 hour, I saw only 8 people at sea...all of them blue flagged. Even one of them started to pm me and mock me, I didn’t reply or retaliate because I’m not an idiot, especially not an idiot that is only cocky because they are hiding behind a blue flag.
The point is for an hour of my life I had zero fun in something designed to be fun, so it’s becoming pointless me logging in.
I’m not telling anyone to change anything, but papaya better not complain when most maritime quit.
And for me this isn’t about arranging events, that’s not what I’m looking for, I just wanted to be a pirate searching the sea’s and trying to outwit traders.
I respect that you try to think of events and so on cpc. But this time it’s not about adapting or making a mafia or teamwork or an event.
Simply put there is not enough people in the game and even less of them at sea and it seems the majority of them use blue flags. That extincts pirates.
I’m not pvp, I’m not looking to fight other pirates or BH, i wanted to pit myself against traders and blue flags have all but removed that from the game.
Some may stay and battle each other, but for me the game is starting to offer nothing worth coming back for.
I’ll give it a month more I guess.
I hope the rest of you find things you can enjoy and if so I hope the game last a long time for you.
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You are so narrow minding you can’t for a second see it from my point of view.
Now to set the record straight I don’t think I should be able to farm you, nor do I want to.
But there is a role in this game, one that papaya spoke big of when the wipe came...it’s a role called pirate, one I’ve spent months grinding for, spent real money on and now it’s almost extinct, so please excuse me if I’m not enjoying the game.
I don’t want it all, I just want something. But I wouldn’t expect you to understand to be honest.
Just to give you an idea, imagine sailing to EA from sev and finding for some reason there is a bug and you can’t click any market keepers so you’ve just completely wasted your time.
I could suggest that you just do some quests in EA and suck it up and deal with it. But all your time and prep would of been on the goal of nanban... you’d be disappointed right? Now imagine you’re spent months grinding and spent real money for that nanban trip, now how would you feel?
Try and see it from my point of view for a second.
But you have to remember I haven’t made all the demands that some have.
My comment is that I have almost not been able to do the role of pirate at all. That’s unfair.
But anyone who isn’t a pirate will likely not understand or agree.
You gotta remember tho if the pirates, BH and pvp players do leave the server won’t last with just a hand full of traders and adventure players.
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I can explain the nanban u see in towns.
In EA I often see fleets of 4/5 with blue gas mostly. Each fleet is probable carrying anywhere between 6k - 10k nanban goods and then they will do that 3/4 times per day. So it’s easy to keep the major towns stocked up.
Of course they are not all blue flagged, jusg the majority so far.
But like you say they may run out.
The problem is the nanbaners are rich but now, and the cash players will just buy blue flags and sell to them for ducats.
But time will tell.
I for one have only ever used a blue flag once (on OGP) and with good reason. I was cannon grinding up in the black sea one day totally down to bare minimum parts and worn gear ofc. When i came out of battle a fleet of 2 pirates where camped waiting for me knowing (just by observing the battle) that i was cannon grinding and wouldn't have and parts/gear to defend myself. Seeing what was going on i used one (30min non tradeable) before they could attack. They laughed at me saying that they caused me to spend 100m, but i had the last laugh as i told them that i got it for free from weekly reward for the daily bonus quests. Being non tradeable they have no value! XD So i just docked in Istanbul for abit, made myself some tea and a snack and then just continued on my grind half hour later :)
Now when it comes to all this talk about blue flags there are important points that no one has even mentioned here. Sure it's true that not many people used the bf's as much back on OGP, but then again both characters and ships were MUCH more developed back then so you didn't really need them, also learning where pirates tend to camp out you could just sail around those hot spots.
On this new server one thing i did notice what that within the first 24 hours of the new server launch i was seeing red players, most people hadn't even finished school yet! I thought..."what the hell is wrong with these people? why would ANYONE want to jump to piracy so early in their and the servers development?" especially when you consider the down side of piracy. Like, why would you guys cut yourselves off from such a huge portion of the game so early? Not being able to earn fame, do quests, having to pay to enter ports etc... plus your lvl's and skills/ships aren't even developed! You have to look at certain facts here...
1) limited noto gain: hardly anyone is able/or even want to leave safe waters so there's practically no targets to even go after (unless you are the type to cheat by farming your own alts, this is why noto rank for pirates means nothing to me. this is bad loophole in the game and i hope it was/gets fixed).
2) limited plunderable items in the game: with everyone just starting out there is literally nothing worth plundering at this time or is it that you guys want my school ship's 100 cargo's worth full of chickens? seriously if you want chickens that bad, i'll tow you to a port where you can get them lol.
Honestly, why would you do this when there are a million other things you could do in this game first? Well i'm going to tell you the reason that people are avoiding talking about... Due to the negative feelings towards papaya that some people had, they went pirate early purposely to force players to 'rage quit' early as a reprisal against the host for taking away all their stuff! Like i said 'Within the first 24 hours of the launch" people were red already and harassing players with the expectation to be able to 'farm' them. since there's nothing worth sealing and noto can be gotten at anytime, this is the ONLY reason people would cut them selves off from the rest of the game so early in development, THEY WANTED THE GAME TO FAIL even if they had to do it single handedly! You literally scared people early on into using them.
So as i see it you pirates are kinda responsible for this blue flag epidemic that's going on. If you guys were smart, then you would've taken advantage of the new start to properly develop and (more importantly) allow others to develop first before you went pirate. Atleast you all should've waited until SEA was opened, after all what's the hurry? You did this to yourselves! I've seen lvl 5 characters sailing around in barca's using blue flags! lol This is how scared you've made the general public with all your negativity and dismissive attitude towards new players. As soon as i saw those first red players early in the game i knew right there what would happen with the No War Pacts so it's hard for me to have sympathy when you guys are just to impatient and use bad strategy like this in game. There is a saying that i think fits this just perfectly...
"Don't judge others for their actions until you take a hard look at your own actions first!" cause and effect at it's best...
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1 Better rewards on both sides.
2 Instead of 24 hour let go, make it 2 hours, thats more than enough to get to safe waters and also nanban round trip for most players.
3 People say cost of materials and ships add factors into cost, well players are in control of that one, therefore instead of buying off people that want say 50k for MCCTs buy of people wanting only 30k or less? same with cannons and other stuff. The other option is ofcourse make them yourself for next to nothing. Either way I do believe prices are higher now than they ever was. This is player led and therefore no one else but us to blame.
With all the above points I do feel the game would become better for all/most but I'm also aware this would perhaps only be something that creates a stop gap.
We also have to remember NOT every game allows free trade (Including stuff brought with real money) to be traded, I feel we are really lucky to be able to sell our unwanted/needed items to others that can use them.
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4 Why do I see videos on youtube of pirates attacking pirates???????? Surely all pirates should be working towards the same goal?
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If you believe the idea is so perfect you yourself should implement it and prove it, otherwise it's just more ranting.
Personally I play the game casually to have fun. I would have no interest in your idea as it would turn the Game into a Job, no thanks.
The logistics to run it the way you have outlined would be very time consuming andcwould require constant policing.
Another idea that would solve everything would be to bring in 10x the players and retain them, but that is unrealistic as well.
1- Change the 24-hour protection against the same pirate to 1-hour, persisting through logout (most important).
2- Make Improved Hold require R13 Management.
3- Make the reward for turning in 10x Bloody Tributes better. 10mil cheque, x50 MCCTS or Vig Foods, Grand Cannon/Exploder/Seraphim, just more things to keep them afloat and in the black if they're doing well in addition to what it already gives.
4- Change the 80x Lumber in the Large PvP Tribute recipe to needing a 10mil cheque. Raise mogul NPC price accordingly.
Then change it so you don't go blue name for defending yourself from an attacker and evaluate from there?
The basis is that being pirated should ideally be a mid-high impact, low-uptime event that occurs to players. Low-uptime means an encounter should be like, 1 minute or less unless you're fighting. Farming the same target over and over again is bad and goes counter to this, but a 1-hour safety lockout is plenty of time to get someplace safe. But that change alone isn't enough as both target and pirate need more impact. Increasing the cost of using (and reward for getting) tributes makes them more meaningful, making Imp. Hold harder to use gives traders options while opening pirates back to being able to procure goods. All of this still affords basic protections to worse-case scenario victims while giving purpose and livelihood to privateering and piracy.
Because let's face it, the fight for Honor/Noto can and should totally be a thing but currently it's an expensive resource drain with little benefit and many downsides while not even being able to enact one of their primary unique abilities (the deprivation of trade goods from other players). Maybe on other servers they have the population or incentive or whatever to work with current rules, but MARIS isn't other servers and should be evaluated by its own merits and needs. If Papaya can convey that idea to KOEI then we might get somewhere.
I’d so much rather have that 5m and half the cash your carrying than a useless grin and half the cash you are carrying.
I seriously have over 200 tribs now.
What do I do with it? Lol
Just to add some good news, I played for an hour yesterday and got 4 plunders, didn’t see a blue flag, so maybe it was all the free ones from the login event the day before.
They hit me twice more in the Celebes. But I'm glad I didn't use the BFs.
I only had fish in the cargo - from the charting. But did you notice that squid you plundered off me? It was a new species I'd just discovered.
Thanks for not using the blue flag tho :)
I’ve still got a few sea’s to chart and I might pop a blue for that also.