Steamship observations

SirenSongSirenSong Posts: 100Member Beginner
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  • SirenSongSirenSong Posts: 100Member Beginner
    All nations will be in industrial revolution for 72 hours after update.
  • WesDoobnerWesDoobner Posts: 761Member Intermediate
    Steamship is very confusing. I've been trying to build ships for a couple of years and I still don't know how to add the steamship skill to a ship.
    SirenSong
    May the winds blow you well
  • SirenSongSirenSong Posts: 100Member Beginner
    They should call the new steamship, paddle boat, because it is propelled by a steam powered paddle wheel, (even though paddle wheels are ineffective at high seas).

    The new steamship can be built at industrial cities after the update. (requires fuel)

    Steam skill can be added to most sailing ships as an original skill (osp). (doesn't need fuel).
    See shipyard master for recipe.
  • lefox271lefox271 Posts: 495Member Intermediate
    Steam? Nah. It'll never catch on.

    And as for ships made of metal - what's that about LOL - they'll never float. A boat's gotta be made of wood.
    DestrySirenSongCrismac
  • Tini555Tini555 Posts: 14Member Beginner
    Nice to know SB requirements and Ship stats for Clarmont



    I think the hull is r10 Handi & R10 SB - 3 rolled iron sheets? 1x metalwork 1 x proc lumber?



    I would be grateful for any further details e.g. cargo hold at R20 where to build etc



    Cheers
    SirenSong
  • eyuhfyeyuhfy Posts: 56Member Beginner
    Steamship is a crap. It is quite fast but doesnt last a long time due to bad fuel consumption. When running out of fuel, it becomes terribly slower. 
    Then what is Clermont? Its an ultimate cargo ship. It has the largest cargo, minimum sailors and low lvl requirement. If you have 5 toons in a fleet, all ships but 1st will be replaced with Clermont. 
    SirenSong
  • DestryDestry Posts: 40Member Beginner
    Base stats:
    Lvl requirement: 25/40/20
    150 VSail
    370 HS
    10 Turn
    14 WR
    19 Armour
    600 Dura
    20/60 Crew
    20 Cannon
    1120 Cargo

    It seems like you have to do a small quest or something to be able to build this: 
    ① Talk with a steam engineer (near a blast furnace) in your own industrial revolution city ② Talk to the shipyard of the Lübeck ③ Talk with the steam engineer in the industrial revolution city ④ Talk to Boston's Franklin ⑤ Talk with the steam engineer in the industrial revolution city 

    Then, when your nation's port is in Industrial revolution:
    With a sheet metal of reinforced steel × 3, processed iron , processed wood <br />, when talking to a steam engineer you can produce a large hull exclusively for steamboat . 

    Seems like a really good ship for your aide, or if you are not the fleet admiral. With SB 20 it can get about 1500 cargo. One website says that without coal your speed drops by 10-15%
    SirenSong
  • SirenSongSirenSong Posts: 100Member Beginner
    Hmm, I wonder if we can put steam on the osp.
  • LyonesseJosephLyonesseJoseph Posts: 637Member Intermediate
    I'd recommend you to give Clermonts to your alts rather than main toon because coal fuel is very expensive like 3 coals per days aka 67 days for 20m is kinda ridiculous cost. Oh, your aide will slow down your sailing unless you have coal fuels in inventory. Oh btw, u can't place coal fuels in bags or even strongbox.
    SirenSong
  • SirenSongSirenSong Posts: 100Member Beginner
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  • AirhaunAirhaun Posts: 182Member Trainee
    I was under the impression the aide ship's stats/sails had no bearing on your speed?
    SirenSong
  • MahakmarMahakmar Posts: 3Member Beginner
    well odd, i got the hull, but when i try make the ship (r10handi and 10 sb) i cant press next , as there is no ships in options , anyone have this issue ?
    SirenSong
  • eyuhfyeyuhfy Posts: 56Member Beginner
    Steam Engineer can build Clermont. SY master cannot. 
    SirenSong
  • MahakmarMahakmar Posts: 3Member Beginner
    well yeah im in rotterdam (dutch industry) but all i get selecting hull is a no show of ships i can make with steam hull

    SirenSong
  • CulvernCulvern Posts: 646Member Intermediate
    I read somewhere that your country must be in industrial revolution status to build one.
    SirenSong
  • HawthorneHawthorne Posts: 71Member Beginner
  • HelloAllHelloAll Posts: 701Member Intermediate
    Well that makes me very very sad...the blue flag I mean :p

    So this ship is somewhat useless?
    SirenSongCulvern
  • HawthorneHawthorne Posts: 71Member Beginner
    As an aide ship, yes.  For alts, it seems pretty solid although the ship skills are kind of limited (EA/HL/livestock room/galley/PO3+).  As a lead ship, it depends on if 20m every 67 days is cost effective.
    SirenSong
  • HawthorneHawthorne Posts: 71Member Beginner
    Correction on the ship skills:  the Clermont can have have camouflaged hold, not the PO3+ skill.
    SirenSong
  • WesDoobnerWesDoobner Posts: 761Member Intermediate
    Useless as an aide ship if speed is important, but if it holds 1500 cargo you can find uses for it as an aide ship.
    SirenSong
    May the winds blow you well
  • SirenSongSirenSong Posts: 100Member Beginner
    Looks like, camo hold, livestock, hi lookout, galley, e/a.

    https://prnt.sc/ibpdsc
  • SirenSongSirenSong Posts: 100Member Beginner
    1/2 mods, 50 day build time.
  • CantrellCantrell Posts: 0Member Beginner
    @LyonesseJoseph Do you have a citation on an aide's steamship slowing down your own sail speed?  Common wisdom is that as long as your aide's ship has the minimum amount of sailors, they don't affect your own sail speed.
    SirenSong
  • BelinikBelinik Posts: 0Member Beginner
    the ship is a cargo haulers dream due to the amount you can haul, it is however a coal-fuel eating hog :p 100.000 per 1 fuel and you need 3 to start engine oh also 3 per 1 min of sailing (no quest to increase efficiency done ) , guessing if you get that to decrease needed it maybe be worth it, but for a singel char player like me its gonna be in the hands of my aide 
    SirenSong
  • dgrw48dgrw48 Posts: 0Member Beginner
    anyone have a Clermont going faster than 6.5 knots? also mine is using 4 fuel per day, not 3 :(
    SirenSong
  • dgrw48dgrw48 Posts: 0Member Beginner
    what speeds are you getting with the Clermont?
    SirenSong
  • LyonesseJosephLyonesseJoseph Posts: 637Member Intermediate
    Nope, aide on clermont without fuels will slow down main toon's sailing. You can check video


    I think many of his uploaded videos showed 4 alts used Clermonts while main toon used usually fast ship.

    Oh, Hawk's screenshot already showed that aide used steam ship speed decreased. 
    SirenSong
  • CulvernCulvern Posts: 646Member Intermediate
    I really like this Clermont. Holds s ton of nanban goods and will slow down the fleet? Sweet!
    I will be looking for them on the sea.
    :)
    SirenSong
  • eyuhfyeyuhfy Posts: 56Member Beginner
    Papaya could have earned much if this ship had been released as a UWC ship from Cpt Tickets. 
    Probably UWC version of Clermont will appear in the future but normal one is excellent enough. 
    SirenSong
  • HelloAllHelloAll Posts: 701Member Intermediate
    So why do people like it? What’s so good about it?
    SirenSong
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