GM's? You are joking around of us right?

NaverUWONaverUWO Posts: 84Member Beginner
Let's be clear with facts.

1. You lied about loss of character data from OGPlanet.

2. You wiped everything just to enable plunder system which doesn't require programming knowledge.

3. Promised to balance in-game economy and spamming top level ships in ticket since the beginning.

4. Promised good communication with players but it's worse than OGPlanet/Netmarble.

5. Made such a big mistake on Event ticket price and gave some people unfair advantage from it. (You didn't solve it nor apologized to players.)

6. Falsely banning random people including one of my member without checking properly. (Now he is unbanned but how unprofessional is it?)

7. NOW YOU JUST COPIED AND PASTED SERVER FILES THAT YOU RECEIVED FROM KOEI FOR THE UPDATE. IT DISABLED PLUNDER SYSTEM AND KILLING PVP COMMUNITY EVEN FURTHER.

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'Enjoy the plundering free waters'? I am sorry but it's not even fun anymore.

A single apologize when?

HuseyinGazi
"The more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face." - Donald J. Trump
"Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump
"The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump

Comments

  • francoisuwofrancoisuwo Posts: 9Member Beginner
    Good Lord man, do you ever stop whining? I'm a maritimer, I think there needs to be some fixes, but you are like way out there with throwing fits. 

    I want you to turn the record function on on your cell tonight when you go to sleep. Make sure to have it set so it skips silence. In the morning, play it back, and let us know what you hear. I bet you even complain while you're a sleep. 
  • NaverUWONaverUWO Posts: 84Member Beginner
    @francoisuwo

    Stating fact on what they have done became whining and crying. Itself explains as a typical loser.

    Yes, I will do whatever I can to fix this kind of bullshit and this is normal for customers who are paying for thousands of dollars or for those who truly love the game.

    You are probably one of those few that cried very hard for piracy nerf and disguised as 'maritimer' to ruin even further for your own benefit.

    'francois' I assume you are either French or fake French. You are clueless as your leader irl.
    "The more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face." - Donald J. Trump
    "Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump
    "The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
  • francoisuwofrancoisuwo Posts: 9Member Beginner
    Naver, you talk a lot of smack for someone who is struggling to break lvl 40, or to leave Europe...

    QQ 
  • YinYangSpartyYinYangSparty Posts: 50Member Beginner
    He can talk as much smack as he wants, he is one of the servers best pvpers.
  • francoisuwofrancoisuwo Posts: 9Member Beginner
    Spartan, you're funnier than I remember. Nice one =)
  • HelloAllHelloAll Posts: 701Member Intermediate
    This one of the few post naver has made I can agree with.

    Forget what you know of his previous post, forget about farming white names and all the other stuff.

    Just read the op post and see it for what it is ..TRUTH

    I knew it already as did we all and I’d learned to live with it, but that notice regarding item plunder has annoyed my more that the actually loss of it.

    for pirates it was about the only good thing to come from the new server, and now instead of an apology to the pirates they are playing it as a bonus to the traders.

    “Enjoy the plunder-free waters”

    Talk about rubbing our noses in it.

    Papaya play are so ridiculously unprofessional and I have zero faith in them.
    Donny71Culvern
  • battousaiuwobattousaiuwo Posts: 13Member Beginner
    Naver is a troublemaker, but he is totally right here.
  • battousaiuwobattousaiuwo Posts: 13Member Beginner
    Actually no, not totally right.

    "2. You wiped everything just to enable plunder system which doesn't require programming knowledge."

    The wipe was just to enable "more profit".
    Donny71HuseyinGazibassist5520rangerzfanCaptainQC
  • CrzyPsycoChickCrzyPsycoChick Posts: 667Member Intermediate
    1. Not sure why he cares about item plunder when  he said whites not being farmable even with item plunder is the reason plunder died and is completely broken today. 

    2. They said the plunder bug was a mistske and that it was temporary so just try to make the best of it for the time being if they truly didn't care they wouldn't have brought plunder back in the first place mistakes happen get over it. not like you cared any way because whites couldn't be farmed. 

    3. Communication was infinitely WORSE on OGP because of Coolwind tickets ignored, forum censorship ,lies told,  Nepotism for friends and allies  bans of anyone that disagreed and he signed off of piracy nerfs on OGP don't EVER forget that. The GM here at least let you voice your opinion here on OGP just banned if he didn't like your comment.  Papaya aint perfect but you all would have been banned by now speaking against the GM or server policies on OGP

    4. Not sure who lied about server deletion OGP or Papaya we'll never know…  when certain players TRIED to find out if there was going to be a wipe and apply pressure to OGP "certain players" were there trying to deflect and derail the effort and to those people who did that Im GLAD you lost everything you of all the people deserved it… I believe in karma and that was bad karma and it came back full circle to those certain individuals GOOD 4 you… to everyone else sorry for your loss… I tried to find out :(

    5. There is a NO SUCH THING as a balanced game economy because its a player based economy. As long as greed supply and demand exists prices will never be to "your liking". GM can alter some of it like with boxes or ship drops but whatever ship you put in players will find a way to sell it expensively as the supply of it dries up. If trade is so skill less why cant certain people understand the simplest and most basic of Economic concepts? Supply and demand and there will NEVER EVER EVER be a "balanced" game economy unless GM completely takes control of the entire market aka not going to happen. Not the GM fault. 

    6. False banning is never good I agree they must thoroughly check all cases. 

    7. They might even remove the 24 hour protection for players after being attacked that nobody wanted after they fix this bug… might be a blessing in disguise. 



    Final thought… Papaya has its faults but things were WAY WAY WAY worse on OGP so stop crying all time and make the best of the situation until they fix it and adapt I lost over 250 BILLION in ducats and assets due to wipe and I still adapted… 

    Btw Ive been pitching the Mafia/alliance idea in game and out of the 30 people I told 8 people disagreed it would be a good idea and would help the community which means its a POPULAR idea... and a trader came up with it I SS the date it was proposed… just for records. 

    lefox271
  • HuseyinGaziHuseyinGazi Posts: 158Member Trainee
    Even though I don't like his taste in the way how he talks, I cannot disagree with these parts he is mentioning. I got surprised when two pirates reported me that they couldn't plunder items at all during the PvP... So it made me think: "They gave something and then take it away??".

    I don't know how this could happen, but to me... they've made so far choices that caused a fatal damage to our community which is so bad that it can't be reserved at this rate. 

    Hope this gets fixed asap and that this won't repeat again, because this worries me :/

    Kind Regards,


    IGN: [CA]Huseyin_Gazi
    Dedicated Adventurer and Maritimer
    Other toon: Disi_Aslan (trader, production, R20 SB'er and Director of OA)
    Osmanli_Aslanlar
  • CulvernCulvern Posts: 646Member Intermediate
    I have not been hunting for a few months now and still am not finished grinding so I did not think the plunder nerf would affect me much. I was wrong. While I grind melee I have been plundering the Engineers Treasure chests with the hopes of getting SSBs. This helps everyone in the game. More SSBs means more r20 shipbuilders.

    Before the nerf I was able to pull 3-5 chests from each fleet everytime and post nerf I am only getting 1 chest per 2-3 fleets!

    So the problem is not just PvP, is against NPC as well. This hurts a lot of us. No more spec ship paint for panel. No more special anything.

    The SSB is hard enough since I have only gotten 2 of them in over 400 chests.

    So "enjoy you plunder free sea" ....
    HelloAllrangerzfan
  • HanukkahHarryHanukkahHarry Posts: 67Member Beginner
    I suggest if you do not like the way the idiot of a GM is running the game then just stop playing. Problem solved. xD
  • rangerzfanrangerzfan Posts: 96Member Beginner
    It will eventually get fixed the next ticket change when they add a Superior La Royale and a steam-powered Balmung. <rolls eyes>
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    Director
    DutchCourage - Amsterdam
  • purplepiratepurplepirate Posts: 994Member Intermediate
    @EVERYBODY well, this 'could' actually be legit problem. When you are doing programming you can't always predict how new codding will intergrate with the existing code. Even though you may write code that seems to work, sometimes there can unexpected reactions when you put the new code in, that's why practically ever software out there has 'patches' for it, they are fixes to unexpected results when adding new code to a program. Look what happened to the uwc shop with the captain's tickets after the major chapter was added. In that case it was a easy fix for papaya (just adjust the price on their master menu) but THEY even announced within 10 minutes after starting up that they had to shut down due to 'Emergency Maintenance', and they fixed that 'bug'. This problem seems to be alot more intergrated into the main program and may need to wait until the next patch to be able to fix it. Even Culvern said the the plunder rate on npc's was affected! If they were just going to take plunder away to favor traders then npc's would not have been affected as well! Maybe they said 'enjoy the plunder free waters' just because this bug they CAN'T do anything about until koei sends them the next fix.
      We'll know for sure come the next patch if this was just an innocent bug or if this was a decision from koei to make major change to the code. In the mean time we will just have to wait it out. I'm kinda sad to see so many people quick to pass judgement so quickly on every thing that changes in the game without getting the full story about it. I totally agree with all of you that papaya is being negligent in making statement/responses to the community when things like this happen. I do think with that remark they made about the 'plunder free waters' should've had a better account to what happened and how it would affect the game (like Culverns lower plunder on npc's). But like i said we'll all know for sure come the next patch, so let's just wait and see...
    IGN: Samantha99
  • TwitchalotTwitchalot Posts: 263Member Intermediate
    Ummmm WC/can't block thing has been broken for how long now?
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  • CulvernCulvern Posts: 646Member Intermediate
    I have been speaking with others about the NPC plunder issue and they claim no issue.
    I did refine plunder at the same time the new update occurred so that could be a different issue altogether.
  • NaverUWONaverUWO Posts: 84Member Beginner
    @purplepirate

    First of all, I have a cookie for your cuteness.image

    "When you are doing programming you can't always predict how new codding will intergrate with the existing code."

    - This is why every game company test first in their test server before applying into main server.

    "Even though you may write code that seems to work, sometimes there can unexpected reactions when you put the new code in, that's why practically ever software out there has 'patches' for it, they are fixes to unexpected results when adding new code to a program."

    - If they fixed partially, that wouldn't be a problem. All they did was copying and paste the entire old buggy server patch file that received from Koei so since Japan server had different PvP system in the past, it just overwritten on it.

    Look what happened to the uwc shop with the captain's tickets after the major chapter was added.

    - This was a GM's mistake when they release new ticket after content update.

     In that case it was a easy fix for papaya (just adjust the price on their master menu) but THEY even announced within 10 minutes after starting up that they had to shut down due to 'Emergency Maintenance', and they fixed that 'bug'. This problem seems to be alot more intergrated into the main program and may need to wait until the next patch to be able to fix it. 

    - Every changes require server reboot.

    Even Culvern said the the plunder rate on npc's was affected! If they were just going to take plunder away to favor traders then npc's would not have been affected as well! 

    - Something is wrong here! Plunder isn't Trader's JOB!!

    Maybe they said 'enjoy the plunder free waters' just because this bug they CAN'T do anything about until koei sends them the next fix. 

    - Yes, just like I said, all they can do is adjusting ticket contents and copy-paste old Japan server files.(buggy but cant fix Q,.Q)

     We'll know for sure come the next patch if this was just an innocent bug or if this was a decision from koei to make major change to the code. In the mean time we will just have to wait it out.

    - The purpose of this thread was why Papaya GM's never apologize for their mistakes and not giving a single compensation to players? IT IS THEIR MISTAKE.

    I'm kinda sad to see so many people quick to pass judgement so quickly on every thing that changes in the game without getting the full story about it.

    - Because everything they do is very predictable and we are smart enough to figure out what is going on after having 4 times of selling out from companies to companies.

     I totally agree with all of you that papaya is being negligent in making statement/responses to the community when things like this happen. I do think with that remark they made about the 'plunder free waters' should've had a better account to what happened and how it would affect the game (like Culverns lower plunder on npc's). 

    - Now you just got back to the point.

    But like i said we'll all know for sure come the next patch, so let's just wait and see...

    - We are waiting to see their communication with the community and that's the main purpose of this thread. We are demanding their apology to players regarding this situation. We shouldn't accept this kind of bullshit anymore.
    "The more righteous your fight, the more opposition that you will face." - Donald J. Trump
    "Treat the word impossible as nothing more than motivation." - Donald J. Trump
    "The more people tell you it's not possible, that it can't be done, the more you should be absolutely determined to prove them wrong." - Donald J. Trump
  • purplepiratepurplepirate Posts: 994Member Intermediate
    @Naver First of all, I have a cookie for your cuteness.

    aww, your'e so sweet! :D

    - This is why every game company test first in their test server before applying into main server.

    yes, but our server is has unique coding compaired to the long running asian servers, so you can't predict variables in the coding

    -
    If they fixed partially, that wouldn't be a problem. All they did was
    copying and paste the entire old buggy server patch file that received
    from Koei so since Japan server had different PvP system in the past, it
    just overwritten on it.


    generally this would be true but we have different coding, i don't think though with the extensive addition in this recent patch, that it would be that simple though with copy past. There was major code added to the main system we had. who knows what might have happened. Also the host would only have time to test basic working functions before restarting due to time constraints so they couldn't be able to check everything.

    This was a GM's mistake when they release new ticket after content update.

    yes but as i said they have more control over the item shop then they do at actually making or even know how to make major bug fixes in the main program, that's koei's department

    - Every changes require server reboot.

    yes ofc, we can thank window's technology for this lol maybe he retired XD

    - Something is wrong here! Plunder isn't Trader's JOB!!

    maybe he retired XD


    -
    Yes, just like I said, all they can do is adjusting ticket contents and
    copy-paste old Japan server files.(buggy but cant fix Q,.Q)


    it might not be as easy as a copy-paste if the upload is a remote access dl from koei itself with papaya being the site on supervisor

    -
    The purpose of this thread was why Papaya GM's never apologize for
    their mistakes and not giving a single compensation to players? IT IS
    THEIR MISTAKE
    .

    I fully agree here, there attitude towards us is really bad :(

    -
    Because everything they do is very predictable and we are smart enough
    to figure out what is going on after having 4 times of selling out from
    companies to companies.


    i can't really comment on this one, i only joined since OGP but still was very upset at the reset since in the past all accounts remained intact with each transfer and i worked so hard by that point to get were i was as was others. :(

    - Now you just got back to the point.

    well they DID give a statement saying it had to do with the recent patch and that they were working on having it fixed. It's better explanation than they've given us in the past lol

    -
    We are waiting to see their communication with the community and that's
    the main purpose of this thread. We are demanding their apology to
    players regarding this situation. We shouldn't accept this kind of
    bullshit anymore.


    Although i agree with you that they should've given us more, personally i'm happy that atleast we have a server to play on, I wasn't around in the early days to fully enjoy the depth of this game. Now i can at least get a chance to play it more especially since i originally joined for adv but missed about 99% of it due to doing maritime. Better something than nothing.

    Personally i want plunder working, tonight i went down to santo domingo to farm shark repellents for company contributions but after about a dozen attacks on npc's there my plunder stopped working. NPC after NPC all i was getting was money no items at all. I got fed up and left to do charting in the antillies and part way though my charting (kill x number of npc's) it stopped counting my kills towards map completion. so there IS something up with this new patch that has affected the game. I hope they fix it on the next update.


    IGN: Samantha99
  • FearTheWicketFearTheWicket Posts: 30Member Beginner
    Just an update about the PvP item plunder situation: When I spoke to GM a few days ago, he gave an ETA about a fix of 1-2 weeks. It seems regular (NPC) plunder is working fine.

    After hearing reports of item plunder problems, GM investigated, confirmed that there was an issue and sent in request for a priority fix to the problem.

    And that's about all I know. 

    - Caddy
    HelloAll
  • SUNDOGG97SUNDOGG97 Posts: 135Member Trainee
    I think this post is spot on. To me it looks like the same crew of people running the same show again.

    What happened last time/

    Every one remember,it it was only was last fall.

    What does any one think will happened again?

    This game lost it's magic and it is tainted now with a  history of bad management and corruption.

    And every thing is still the same.


    CaptainQC
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