POPULATION

APRaja · February 2018

Hi folks

Its been a while I just want to sail again but before I do I just want to know hows the population now on the server

Regards,

AP.Raja

HelloAll · February 2018

nanban routes have a fair few regulars. Seville is packed but it’s a bit of a smoke screen because it’s often alts.
I think the population is lower than at the end of ogp, at least on the seas.

crazyhunter2003 · February 2018

@ HelloAll Seville has always been full of alt bazaars,even back in Netmarble days.so not really smokescreen,unless u think it has always been one

HelloAll · February 2018

@crazyhunter2003 yes I agree, but there was also plenty of people out at sea.
So I was saying that to someone returning them may then think the sea is as full as netmarble days just because Seville is full again. And that isn’t the case

CrzyPsycoChick · February 2018

Raja heyyyyyyy I know you remember me I missed you!

Population is imo about 20% smaller. World chat always has people in it. Seville has people there if it didnt I wouldn't auction there. Truth is this and people just dont seem to get it… People often tend to do things in uwo by themselves but if you interact with people and ask to fleet or offer fleet you can usually get people to join you. The game is what we make it honestly.

People whine as always raja and doom and gloom but if they not taking the initiative to make the population better or at the very least fleet or offer to fleet others or help train newbies then they cant really complain about having a low population can they?

Bottom line if you make the initiative to find and play with others you will find others and have fun if not… the game will seen dead to you as you are playing as a loner.

Good luck o/

Rhend78 · February 2018

My guess is there are probably about 300 or so actives on the server. Maybe another 200 semi-actives.

Out of those, I would guess maybe 20%-30% rarely, if ever leave Europe.

At any given time, I would bet there are more people active in World Chat than are actually outside of Europe doing trade routes.

My guess is the population is closer to 50% of what OGP had. That's not being doom and gloom, it's just a very realistic take on what one can see traveling about on the waters, without trying to blow smoke up peoples asses to try and attract more people back to the game.

Culvern · February 2018

I would have to agree with your numbers.
Far, far less at sea than just before the reboot.
And compared to the netmarble days it not even in the same category of population.
I'm just happy to still be playing.

Ferrolio · February 2018

People have more reason to be on land than in the old days. Once upon a time there weren't dungeons, or gold/gem mining, or pets finding you things as you collect/procure. Not to mention aides that level up and gain traits without needing sail time attached to you, or train rides across continents for that matter. Then there are items that straight up teleport you around the globe...Never liked that idea. But it is what it is.

And to top it all of - ships are much faster than they used to be. People can get to where they're going in no time at all. And that's just going to increase further with time.

It would be nice if there were more - non-Nanban - incentives to go venture out into the seas. Even just varying up their events would be a good start. I still maintain that the population isn't as hopeless as many think it is. But it's not great either...

HelloAll · February 2018

Well maybe the game is now true to its name. Because to many it seems these waters have remained uncharted

Ferrolio · February 2018

To be fair - actual charting is one of the duller aspects of this game :P

CrzyPsycoChick · February 2018

I love how players are here preaching their anti land class rhetoric as if they are playing the “right way"

Some like land some like sea some like dungeon some like player to player trade some nanban bottom line is we all like different things and the thing that makes us fail as a community is a notion that you must sail in order to be a “real player"

Get off the high horse we all make up this community love and fought hard for it. If you want more people sailing DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Encourage and foster more of it bring new creative ideas instead of whining all the time and blaming your frustration on the other classes.

Less TEARS and BLAME GAME more IDEAS and SOLUTIONS

WesDoobner · February 2018

I only played the last two years or so on OGP, but it seems about the same now as it was most of the time then, if not a little better. I get pirated more now than then at least.

Culvern · February 2018

@cpc once again you start throwing accusations at people and try to start an argument.
No one said anything bad about people who are on land. They just pointed out they dint sea many on the sea. And they are right.
Population is not as high as it was 6-7 years ago when I started playing. It is about 1/4 of the pop we had back then, maybe even less.
Back then you Could not stop at Hobart without seeing someone else there. Now I can run around Venice on a Saturday afternoon and not see a soul.

NaverUWO · February 2018

@CtothePtotheC

Who cares about CPC anymore? He/she doesn't have a clue on the chain effect from PvP system to everything in UWO and talks like we have to work full time to make some changes. I am sorry but this is not a problem of players. The problem is in the current system we have and in the management aspect.

All you proposed 'alliance vs alliance' or whatever your full of bored events require enough population in each role to have a possible chance.

Again, we are customer and GM's are workers of the game company.

They are the ones that have to set up correct system to increase population not US.

We are pointing out the problem and giving them suggestions. This itself should be valuable for them.

CrzyPsycoChick · February 2018

@culvern

Im going to tell you this one time and one time only the next time you assume any comment I make is trying to start an argument when im not actually trying to I'm not going to be nice about it the next time and I will reveal what it TRULY MEANS when CPC "wants an argument" you did it the other day you doing it now again and I dont want to go there with you. When Naver calls people faggots or that are traders are skill less or working together in fleets is jerking off or when rhend makes comments about people never leaving Seville you QUIET… but for me you always accuse me of that should I be a pirate too to avoid your scrutiny? Just because I disagree with point dont mean an argument is trying to be provoked. We all have an opinion just because it doesnt align with yours dont mean its an argument so please stop coming at me like that you want to disagree with my point fine totally cool its a free forum but don't make up motives you ASSUME I have.

Now on to the discussion. The following comments were made

People have more reason to be on land than in the old days. Once upon a time there weren't dungeons, or gold/gem mining, or pets finding you things as you collect/procure.

Out of those, I would guess maybe 20%-30% rarely, if ever leave Europe.

Another comment about uncharted nanban online in another foum

The issue isnt about sailing or "leaving seville" or doing nanban or what it used to be like regarding dungeons etc. its about being here and if people want more people at sea do something about it. All I hear is complaints omg this omg that omg omg stop talking and act. Like I said before I challenged everyone especially Naver and Rhend to come up with a solution on their part that can help in any way how they can make sea life poppin without waiting on KOEI . NOT ONE came up with even 1 solution just blame traders or people that dont sail while they do NOTHING but whine. Tears are cool where's the ingenuity wheres the action? If they want to come and blame the trouble of the game on others playstyle then they can rebuttled right back for inaction.

@Naver

Yes I do know the chain effect ive stated all players make up the chain effect ive stated it many many times. Remove any group the system falls apart and PVP draws the most $ into the game ive stated that before if you listened. Why even suggest UWO Battle league or the pirates mafia if I didn't understand the importance of pvp thats an ignorant assumption.

As far as the Alliance and mafia that some in my company have already begun mapping out seems unlike you I act instead of sit around on a forum feeling sorry for yourselves whining every damn day your problem is you feel everything “isnt your problem“ and im hear to inform you it IS your problem if I can get thr movement going and I'm not even a maritimer whats your excuse. You are jealous of me you look down on me because I'm a skill less trader as you call 1/3 of the games players but I got 3 things you'll NEVER Have… CREATIVITY, ORIGINALITY & MOTIVATION to get things done. People LOVE the idea and are always pming me about it and it tears you up inside and I LOVE IT cant wait until its off the ground with whoever isnt closed minded.

Pie is crazy but I like him alit he doesnt sit by and DO NOTHING and neither will I… the “ its not my problem" attitude is the mindset of someone lazy, pessimistic and unmotivated. The population can seem bigger being more proactive fleeting and events and creative ideas CAN WORK as I suggested to Raja but we must ALL do our part including you, traders, adventurers and the publisher/Developer. Everything you don't do that you CAN do IS YOUR FAULT.

HelloAll · February 2018

Tbh each thread I see I’m just waiting for CPC to come on and point out the error of our ways and share her wisdom of how foolish we all are.

Pretty much each time she seems to miss the point or only see it as an attack she needs to defend.

From what I can tell she doesn’t leave Seville much so has no freedom of speech on the current condition of the sea, and to me this is part the game for her...she seems to think she is the wisest remaining player and also the queen of seville.

Well the queen of a kingdom with no people is no queen at all.... and the people are becoming fewer and fewer.

My company is becoming more and more inactive and those on my friends list are also online less and less.

But please tell me I’m a just a whiner. Maybe if I stick it out me and you can sit in Seville and I can be the only one buying in your auction...you can even make games and events that I can play

Culvern · February 2018

@cpc Wow, threats now?
I sorry but your comments that I have pointed out these two times were jabs thrown at groups of plays or individuals on an otherwise civil discussion. That had not yet erupted into personal attacks.
I truly hope that I could hold you to a higher standard than others that rant. I'm I wrong to do so?
True I don't slam others sometimes, since doing so is pointless due to their nature. I was hoping you were not in that population.

HelloAll · February 2018

Quiet Culvern...queen CPC is speaking, she’ll put a hit on your head with the power she has.

One of the 5 remaining maritmers will come and kill you...unless you sail out of EU then your safe xD

CrzyPsycoChick · February 2018

@culvern

A threat is I will do something and I want to I said dont want to go there with you. Its a warning not a threat if you dont want to go there like I said I dont want to go there then dont assume that start an argument assumption. dont violate me I wont violate you fair enough.

@hello

You missed the point thinking leaving seville is the issue the point was we can all help if you don't like to hear the truth too bad. You guys tear me up on any point especially traders and its a free forum we all got a point you cant come at me then get mad if I respond. Never once have I said im the wisest or the best player or queen find the source for your argument… ill wait

I merely said we all can do our part now if you want to fall into the pirate woe is me theres nothing we can do then hey that's your business. I wont do that if that upsets some people then too bad a good idea can come from anywhere and WE ALL have say its our game too NOT just maritimers and its not uncharted nanbanners online. Its a gane of discovery its what we make it what people choose to do for fun is their business.

Lastly all aspects are important and yes we need people but the main question helloall is are you a Naver who just sits and whines and does nothing waiting for Koei or are you a man of action that does all he can now? If you want to bash me for calling for more action from ALL of us cool I rather be bashed for that than bashed for doing NOTHING.

So which guy are you going to be? You're new you can make a change you dont have to be idle just because other more established maritimers before you are doing it

Culvern · February 2018

I don't mind how people play the game, whether it is as a trader, maritime, adventure, reseller, crafter, never leaving safe waters, or however people play. If that's what they enjoy great.

The point of this thread is the discussion of the server population. This has nothing to do with style of play.
Other than asking those that we know personally to start playing I'm not sure how else we could make a significant impact on population.
The game will never return to the days of old.
We have a dwindling number of players.
I doubt papaya or Koei are going to do anything to increase it, with it being such a niche game that is outdated.
Have to play the hand we are dealt.

@cpc I'm the one trying to avoid the arguments.
Some of the comments you have been making that are perhaps meant towards individuals are being aimed at a whole group of players, of which I am included. Forgive me for being offended by your comments that seemed to be intended to offend. Next time I will allow you to beat on me without response.

NaverUWO · February 2018

@CPC

"Lastly all aspects are important and yes we need people but the main question helloall is are you a Naver who just sits and whines and does nothing waiting for Koei or are you a man of action that does all he can now? If you want to bash me for calling for more action from ALL of us cool I rather be bashed for that than bashed for doing NOTHING. "

You are funny. I am already managing one of most active companies even after the wipe with purely one nationality Venice. You do not know how hard it is to keeping it active and saving an underpopulated nation especially in a dying server.

What have you done for the community after the wipe?

Have you 'successfully' organized a group to achieve a goal? Talking is cheap.

I have been making a suggestion while I actually contributing to the community directly.

You call me whiner? Does nothing but sitting? I think these words fit perfectly on you.

I am not the fan of using forum to argue with such stuffs but I realized no one would say anything in this shitty management.

If my proposal is whining, then why do we need suggestion? Anything that doesn't taste good for CPC becoming whining?

CrzyPsycoChick · February 2018

I provided 3 statements above mentioning play style I never ever mentioned play style in my original response to raja OTHER people started bringing up dungeons and never leaving seville being on land and people nanbanning. You can check scroll up all I said population 20% smaller but we can make the population seem bigger than it was by fleeting more and being team orientated and not being all doom and gloom and just do more team stuff and not be so alone it will recover.

Lastly nobody bashed you, you didn't make the comments but if you don't agree with someone just say it thats absolutely positively fine I encourage it its the only way things will get solved if we talk it out and voice our opinions not walking around on egg shells afraid to hear everyones opinion or assuming its an argument. My only issue is being told by you that I only speak to cause an argument when Im not that's my only issue but you disagreeing or voicing your opinion is totally cool and on more than 3 occasions I've conceeded youre right if I REALLY wanted just to argue id respond mind your business or screw you etc. Right or wrong why conceed to someone ever IF you just want to argue?

Nothing against you ever Culvern but being passionate about UWO isn't starting and argument sorry you took it that way ..

Culvern · February 2018

@cpc
I apologize to you.
You are very passionate about the game and I know your intentions are genuine. I was just attempting to point out that perhaps your passion can be perceived incorrectly.

Rhend78 · February 2018

Don't sweat CPC, she's just still upset with me for pointing out (in an old thread) that she was trying to make a point about how us players who like the Sea should play, when she's rarely on the Sea. So, my posting something about people not being on the sea obviously set her off.

I'm just of the mindset that people with very limited experience with a situation shouldn't act like they have the answers to those situations. I don't run around telling CPC how to do auctions, because that's not in my wheel house. As an RN I don't run into the Operating Room giving a Neurosurgeon advice on how to remove an L3-L4 disk and then direct them on the proper technique for an L3-L4 fusion.... It's not in my wheel house.

The REASON I mentioned that a large percentage of players aren't on the sea in THIS thread is because the MAJORITY of players go out to sea and like seeing others out. It gives a sense of a full WORLD when people see others all over the place.

WesDoobner · February 2018

Jeeez, can't we all just get along? Until I see you around Ambon anyway.

lefox271 · February 2018

So let me get this straight. The population is ... er ...

Nope. Run that by me again.

Ferrolio · February 2018

And I only brought those things up as it pertains to the current perception of the population. You know, the title of the thread.

Not everything is a slight against traders ;)

With this latest ship race event - they're handing out some half decent things. That gets people out sailing. In a nautical game. Which is a positive thing for precisely the reasons Rhend mentioned above. It's a start, so kudos to Papaya.

rangerzfan · February 2018

The population is either about where it was at the end of GAMA or slightly less. The 2 and 3 toon multis are more noticeable. The game management is not good, but the game is still online to play. You can count the number of pirates on your hands now. Somedays there are only 5 or 6 of them active the whole day. Seems like more blue flags, but that may be because fewer seem to be sailing out of Europe. The Captain's tickets have become a currency on their own. Many did not come back for reset and several others have slowly left after 30-60-90 days for various reasons. New player retention seems to be no better than before. If anyone is looking for some magic cure or magic reason to play, there is none. Either play and enjoy the best you can while you can or find another game more fun for you.

Culvern · February 2018

To be honest I have still been grinding skills so piracy has only occurred when I happen upon someone, I have not been out hunting. But don't worry I'll get back out there soon.

Katanauwo · February 2018

I think the server is in its browning-out stage at the moment.

It had a few concerning issues one after another from its management. But again the community seems passionate enough to keep it alive.

Having said that a lot of people got weary of the lack of actions and ill-purposed business model from the management. It is a matter of time before they eventually quit if things do not improve.

The eagerness of getting new premium ship, along with its craze on gamble in lottery, is has been not here since the end of OGP. I am worried about their income stream. Personally i no longer see any point of spending money on it, now that a wipe is very likely recurring in the near future when uwo changes hands once again.

I think the key action for management is to assure community that there will not be another closure any time soon, and build a sustainable business model such as premium account (i.e. automatically apply npc on every trade, and +100% experience in addition to boost)

HelloAll · February 2018

I don’t expect papaya to say or do anything that will inspire confidence in players as regards the longevity of the game.

There is no evidence so far that papaya cares for us gamers, they seem to treat it as cold hard business and although I’m not expecting the game to end anytime soon, if it did I wouldn’t be shocked.

Of course papaya bought the rights and since we are not forced into paying a penny they can do what they want.

I’m 1 ship short of having all the ships I want.

Many already have what they need, soon ticket sales will drop. It’s not even like we have an influx of new players that will want/need to buy tickets.

There was this rush to bring when the 100% buff was on, now so many have maxed refined and just sit in sev waiting for bc and esf

Also the rush and buzz of new and better ships, but again most people have what they need.

Gazi loves this game and he is knowledgeable and experienced at it and even gazi’s outlook on the game seems to have changed and he seems more worried about its future from what I’ve seen on the forum and WC. I apologise if I’m wrong gazi.

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