Let's Talk About WarRock.

brappbrappbrappbrapp Posts: 34Member Beginner
I play since 2008 and 2010-2014 I played ESL and active. Do you want Warrock with more players and make more money? Overpowered guns is not the problem.
Warrock is a rush game, when you are pro you can move better and this game does not need something that speeds it up, that's why maybe you can't agree with you will read. This game needs to be competitive but also rich, a better game.
LET'S DO SOMETHING BIG! WR DESERVE THIS.
- Make again medic the only one can heal yourself.
- Remove flashes and lands.
- Remove quickspawn.
- Remove stamina.
- Remove skin advantages, you can still use it.
- Make Khyber f2p start and add Xauen premium.
- Remove SP Up.
- Remove Big Head Mode.
- Remove any restricted mode.
- Remove balistic knife.
- Remove fast reload.
- Remove or make T-Bombs explose 2sec later from CQC, that was removed because EVERY map is unplayable.
- Decrease Medic Box (2 instead of 4).
- Make 4th slot kit2 f2p everyone or make kit1 heal 45%.
- Deseart Eagle only premium buy.
- We need USA Server.
- Fix Framerate issue. (happens sometimes to me in 8 players room and always in 16 or more.)
- Make f2p less exp gained after a match and make Premium Platinum with a lot more EXP gained.
- f2p cannot make a clan or join clan if level is not 29+
- Make more levels.
- Make exclusive maps. (Good/Competitive maps)
- Make UI cusmomizable like remove in the middle of the screen "headshot/first" kill, or choose map zoom default.
- Remove CQC fog or reduce 80% less at least. (Best thing you can ever do in wr).


You can make a veteran CQC mode.
Rules: 1-4 slot without any SP UP or any px/ Skin (f2p look) and you can use any gun, only Premium users can start a match.
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  • KillingtimeKillingtime Posts: 246Member Trainee
    Some solid suggestions, about medic boxes I'd rather have them like this:
    -Medic Box heals only 25% instead of 50% to self but still heals 50% to allies

    And you say just to remove things but you should never do that if there are other options, like making SP Ups for dinar is enough and Ballistic knife could be fine if it only 1 shots to head for example.
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  • brappbrappbrappbrapp Posts: 34Member Beginner
    I agree with you, we can make SP up and fast reaload free to play.
    If competitive players don't come back and ESL is dead then this game will die completly SOON too. Pro players make the game interesting, not noobs with famas. We need something big and everyone will play again, more new players will start playing and more users will buy premium and other stuff, but we need a gameplay balance like I wrote.
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  • OmnitrickSOmnitrickS Posts: 6Member Beginner
    I don't agree with you, most of the feature you listed are nice and people like it.



    Do you really want them to remove a work lasted more than years??

    As i said most of the things you write in the list are wrong for me and for others.
    You don't like to shop WRC? don't do it and thats it, not that you ask papaya to remove most of the feature because you want people to play "normal" like you.
    brappbrappTheRedEye
  • brappbrappbrappbrapp Posts: 34Member Beginner
    Let's make a Khali 16 players: Oh wait everyone got T-bombs, stamina and I can't do anything from NIU. Same for other maps like Xauen or Khyber. Noob decision from staff destroied this game. They removed Tbombs from CQC because of this, and no1 that is good actually uses Tbombs (they know that is so nooooob).
    Don't touch F2P weapons power like K1 like you did (is not op compared to m4a1 or ak47).
    OmnitrickSWRZeradia
  • brappbrappbrappbrapp Posts: 34Member Beginner
    You see the problem? Premium users wants huge advantages, good players quit. Premium should be something just for EXP.
    OmnitrickSWRZeradia
  • OmnitrickSOmnitrickS Posts: 6Member Beginner
    Just for your info, i just play with ESL weapons, no skin and stamina and im a master of clan that is playing only with ESL weapons. Its unfair to remove the advantages they already gave to the premium users, this is unfair and im not a premium user. ^^
    brappbrappTheRedEyeWombarger
  • brappbrappbrappbrapp Posts: 34Member Beginner
    You can remove these thing from shop and wait everyone expire
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  • brappbrappbrappbrapp Posts: 34Member Beginner
    Btw "ESL WEAPONS". Maybe you mean Free to Play weapons. Electronic Sports League is not just about guns, but also rules how you know.
    t's unfair that I'm forced to use stamina because everyone uses, does not make more sense just remove it? Force people to buy premium for EXP, maps and other stuff like I said, everyone loves to be high level, but today they are all noobs, back in the days if you was 70+ in CQC then probably you was pro, now if you are high level probably you're really bad.


    Sorry for double posting but I can't edit.
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  • Mrterr0rMrterr0r Posts: 244Member Trainee

    The medic should be the only class to heal themselves. No other class should have the ability to heal except at a med station... Players using this have 2/3 lives because they get hit and just boost there HP back to 100% and they have this help every single life for every game they play. Tie this into the no bleed out P2W option making players able to rambo around a map. A free2play player gets hit one time and NEEDS to find a med station. So this drastically changes there game play again swaying the advantage to people who P2W. Maybe if the med stick and stamina was a game only use its would be different. Players would have to choose the right times to use them rather then have it there for every life.  

    Keeping with the medic.... the medic box should be for helping the team, not for personal help healing the medic! 4-boxes + med stick + med make a P2W medic super OP with 6 or more lives! The medic should be saving the lives as others not just healing themselves.  

    Flash and land mines should be set so only one can be deployed at a time, till tripped. Then a player is able to place another but the messages for poppers should be removed as its another from of GPS.

    Amazes me how some players Auto re-spawn a lot more then others. Sure there is a way to exploit it. 

    Stamina is lame. Kill someone and take a base and 2 seconds later they have sprinted back. See them moving around the map like the old speed hacks. Dont forget all the extra P2W items that increase stamina too make Running, bouncing, jumping sliding way to easy and the stamina never runs out for them. A free2play runs for like 10 meters and cannot even jump at the end. 

    Thought they removed the stats... But seems there back on sale. Again people paying for protecting. I dont mind but having to always play them with such a huge advantage is not fair.  

    Restricted mode is good and shows your a CQC player. And never play a map with 31 AW50s not being able to move around the map due to all the 1 hit kills. If anything the restricted mode should be enhanced top allow players to choose what weapons are used along with what items. Fkit just give us F2P mode.  

    Big head is lame... 

    My biggest issue with the game is people stacking teams hiding in the lobby till the game starts then flooding one side even though they where able to line up before starting the game. Starting 2v1 and the 1 leaving to rejoin. Making most games ruined before any shots have been fired. I dont know of, nor have i played another game like this where almost every game is one sided (BG) add in every single game i play at least one player WILL rejoin the other team... Its just makes this game a horrible game to play. But its not low levels doing this.... its long term, experienced, high level so called "pros" who for a lot have paid to play that are doing it. 

    The game is dead so doubt any changes will happen. Its all about money and less about game-play. Weird considering the BS written on Vertigo games main web page. Should read takes control of games and does fk all with them rather then talking about fair play, even teams and competitive game play. Astheses three things in no way represent warrock 
    brappbrappWombarger
    Beta then 2007-2020
  • nenoxgam3rnenoxgam3r Posts: 47Member Beginner
    I think this is a really challenging post, I don't think they will do any of it lol

    I agree on:
    - Medic Part
    - USA Server (Might get new players from across the US not to mention the old ones)
    - Framerate issues (that's sucks!!)
    - Flashes and M14 (Not remove them completely but decrease their functionality)
    - Stamina (Also decrease it like make it one-time use only)
    - SP UP (should be removed it's useless and advantage against other players)
    - Desert eagle premium only (Hell yea that weapon sucks! I always get shot in the head with it)
    - Make more levels (to 200 maybe? but if so we need to make the XP more on than matches)
    - We need to make another Premium like Platinum? (with more features than premium)
    - Exclusive maps (I agree we're sick of current maps maybe Khali 2.0?)

    brappbrapp
  • brappbrappbrappbrapp Posts: 34Member Beginner
    The point is: Papaya should work on gameplay because they will make more money. Don't see that people are quitting because every company fails in every aspects of the game? They just make new guns and some other bullshits like TBOMBS or NONSENSE maps. NO LOGIC. Give me WarRock I'll buy it. How much? :)
  • brappbrappbrappbrapp Posts: 34Member Beginner
    @Mrterr0r I see your point. The gameplay needs some balance between Premium and Free to Play, as you said I'm CQC player who never played UO/BG and restricted mode is something which can be useful.
    Thanks for your opinion, I partially agree with you.

    6th slot weapons kills this game.
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  • TheBaroTheBaro Posts: 13Member Beginner
    I think the company papayaplay will bankrupt because of lack of player amount.They banned last active and legit players which i personally do not think they were hacking.Lets talk about this first.
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  • nadergamernadergamer Posts: 8Member Beginner
    The issue is if there are not many players they won't earning much, and so I don't think they can afford a server in the US at the moment or do great updates to the game, the trick is to gain players like WarRock PH, always full more than 150+ servers all the time, they have to do something big like It's ok to sacrifice a little investement, the outcome might be bigger and bigger!! when I log in to our WarRock at night time I barely can play, like it's empty that's what I'm afraid..one day we might not even find a player to play with.
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  • brappbrappbrappbrapp Posts: 34Member Beginner
    Why there are no players? Because Warrock needs some balance like years ago. The game The game in CQC is unplayable (stamina rush, Tbombs....)
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  • [HGM]MaskedMan[HGM]MaskedMan Posts: 134Approved Member Trainee
    I'm going to comment on a few points that I deem relevant. 

    - Make again medic the only one can heal yourself. 

    The KP kit is obviously weaker than med boxes and med kits. The medic still remains the most effective healer class.

    - Remove flashes and lands. 

    M14 and Flashes have been revamped lately:

    - The flash only lasts a much shorter time
    - The M14s only take 50% SP off for all classes

    - Remove quickspawn.

    I don't see why this is of any issue

    - Remove stamina. 

    Stamina sticks (I assume this is what you're talking about) make games fast paced. This makes players practice rushing routes and trajectories. It adds skill play.

    - Remove skin advantages, you can still use it. 

    Most costumes have 0 base stats and the costume parts have reduced effectiveness now. Skinned players are much easier to kill than before 


    - Remove Big Head Mode.   

    There are many fans of bighead mode in the community. If you dislike it, simply do not join it. Removing bighead mode would anger a lot of bighead fans.


    - Remove or make T-Bombs explose 2sec later from CQC, that was removed because EVERY map is unplayable. 

    Tbomb isn't what it used to be. It was nerfed and brought back in line with the regular grenade, albeit a little stronger.

    - Decrease Medic Box (2 instead of 4). 

    Not a bad suggestion. The following is a PERSONAL opinion and not one of the whole Papaya team.

    - I personally think that medkits should be reduced to three (three medkit1 shots and three medkit2 shots). This would make medics play more carefully and tactically choose who to heal. 



    - We need USA Server. 

    The playerbase (especially the North American playerbase) is not big enough for this. 

    - Fix Framerate issue. (happens sometimes to me in 8 players room and always in 16 or more.)

    This is in the works. 


    - Make UI cusmomizable like remove in the middle of the screen "headshot/first" kill, or choose map zoom default. 

    This is a good suggestion. It will be brought up with the team


    brappbrappWRZeradia
  • R3voxWRR3voxWR Posts: 568Member Intermediate
    You seriously would like to reduce MedicKit shots?
    Okay, then reduce weapons' magazines from 5 (or 6 with the PX) to 3.. Yeah, let make this game suitable for 10 years old kids. ^^
    Intel Core i5-3450 - Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 - 8 GB of Ram 
  • p0wner1180p0wner1180 Posts: 451Member Intermediate
    @[HGM]MaskedMan

    - Remove quickspawn.

    I don't see why this is of any issue

    It is unfair to people who are not able to quickspawn. For example in Foggy Mode, most of the time players are already waiting at the zombie spawn and insta killing zombies. That is just boring and unfair, therefore it should be removed.

    - We need USA Server. 

    The playerbase (especially the North American playerbase) is not big enough for this. 

    But it will grow when there is a North American server... Why don't you guys get that?
    brappbrapp
  • Mrterr0rMrterr0r Posts: 244Member Trainee
    It does not matter if the MED STICK is weaker it sill allows players to ramp there HP back to 100% giving people using it two lives, every time they spawn. I am sick of shooting non medics only to see them heal back to 100% it changes the game play. Instead of that player now needing to search a medic or retreat back to the safety of a med station they just carry on as if nothing happened.  There are some players who have not bleed out in this game for years because of P2W. 

    The medic was in game for a reason... To heal teammates. But the medic is redundant.  

    Its auto re-spawn... Shoot someone in BG and they die and re-spawn instantly. There is no spawn count. And you dont think this is an issue if the same people do it time and again. I have watched people do it 4/5/6 times in a row till you point it out the magically they start getting a spawn count. 

    This is why the games going downhill fast....With dumb admins controlling the game. What chance do we have of changes being made when he comments with....Stamina equals skill!

    Did not take long to back track and re add theses P2W stats back into the game because all you care about is money over game play once again P2W gaining an advantage. 

    Forget changes that would improve the game just keep milking the people who cannot play without paying






    brappbrapp
    Beta then 2007-2020
  • brappbrappbrappbrapp Posts: 34Member Beginner
    @[HGM]MaskedMan

    Hp kit should be removed from CQC at least or better from game because it's overpowered and it changes che gameplay.
    Assault = no heal.
    Medic = heal.
    (=LOGIC)
    I hit assault and they heal 6 hp. The gun does not need reload, medkit yes.

    Lands = gps and -5 sp..........
    Flashes? Everyone hate flashes.
    6th slot KILLS Warrock.
    I can't rush without Stamina because every premium uses it (that means it's op) and they got everytime sp for roll and bh = noob advantages.
    Quick spawn = pc advantages and causes Esl matches start 2:37

    Big head is something Warrock does not need. No gameplay skills and everytime 1shot die.


    Make USA SERVER and players from America will play again. I know so much people that is just waiting for that. G1 removed it and everyone said: BYE TOO MUCH LAG.




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  • brappbrappbrappbrapp Posts: 34Member Beginner
    In other words:
    Veteran players hate advantages like fast reload, stamina, sp up, skins, 6th slot, quick spawn. The game is shit because of framelag, lag, bugs, ovc, hackers at least let us play the competitive Warrock gameplay in CQC. They can be easily banned from CQC and everyone will love so much Warrock again.
    No Veterans = no interest = no money.
    The game is death, do something now or Warrock will 100% die.
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  • brappbrappbrappbrapp Posts: 34Member Beginner
    This game is so much fun and chill in CQC when you play 1-4 slot.
    I don't think the same when you unlock every noob thing.
    Papaya = like every other company. They care only about instant cash and don't get what Warrock really is. Every player that loves Warrock loves also ESL 1-4.
    You can make premium for exp and people will play better and more happy
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  • TheRedEyeTheRedEye Posts: 36Member Beginner
    Understand this guys. Admins and mods don't know anything about this game. They don't know anything about gaming industry. They are blind people walking in a line leading the blind community to the death of this game. And those people who had eyes open have left the line.

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  • brappbrappbrappbrapp Posts: 34Member Beginner
    @TheRedEye

    You're right when you say that Admins and Mods don't know anything about Warrock, back in the days every Admin or Mod was a veteran.
    But I cannot just watch WR die.
    Keep discussing and let Papaya understand what WR really is.

    Please make CQC for pro's and other gamemodes for everyone. This will bring back players and competition.
    Big patch please.
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  • TheRedEyeTheRedEye Posts: 36Member Beginner
    I tried to give them feedback but they don't want to hear creative feedback. All they wanna hear is this muslim community begging more weapons and exp events. Try to understand that the reputation of this game is raped. And these monkeys are not trying to fix it. They don't wanna fix it.
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  • WRZeradiaWRZeradia Posts: 3Member Beginner
    Ok but Warrock is my favorite game and I can't just watch it dying like admins do. We need CQC balance at least.
    brappbrapp
  • WRZeradiaWRZeradia Posts: 3Member Beginner
    @brappbrap

    Totally agree. Make CQC playable again thanks.
    brappbrapp
  • WombargerWombarger Posts: 49Member Beginner
    Lol, warrock management is getting rekt here, and for good reason. 

    The cross-breeding of classes is just horrible in this game, a heavy trooper is as capable of killing infantry as the assault class and the assault class can heal up like the medics, and medics get silly gadgets that should only be for engineer, for instance flash mines. 

    It is just so silly what has happened in this game over the last couple of years, but just look at the admins. Just look back at the admin streams from months back, they absolutely know nothing about this game. They are not even able to play it properly, BECAUSE NO NEW PLAYER CAN. Please admins, get in a room and try to have fun with a new account. It is absolutely impossible, because or you get kicked, or you do not have the stack of OP weapons and gadgets (stamina and med stick incl) to even be of any harm to the P2W players. 

    Sickening. 
    brappbrapp
  • TheRedEyeTheRedEye Posts: 36Member Beginner
    I know the potential this game has. But these monkey know exactly nothing.

    Let me explain what MaskedMan basically said:

    - Make again medic the only one can heal yourself.

    ''HP stick is P2W. Yes P2W kill the game but it is a short time money milker. No reason to remove it.''

    - Remove flashes and lands. 

    ''I have no skill to play WR without flashes. No reason to remove them.''

    - Remove stamina. 

    ''Players look fun while bunny hopping. No reason to remove it.''

    - Remove skin advantages, you can still use it. 

    ''We try to make them less OP so you guys would STFU. P2W is not a problem. No reason to remove them.''

    - Remove Big Head Mode.   

    ''Everyone loves Big Head. Nobody plays Big Head for exp. No reason to remove it.''

    - Remove or make T-Bombs explose 2sec later from CQC, that was removed because EVERY map is unplayable. 

    ''T-bomb is P2W. P2W is money milking. No reason to remove it.''

    - Decrease Medic Box (2 instead of 4). 

    ''I don't play medic myself. Good suggestion, but papaya won't care.''

    - We need USA Server. 

    ''There is no FPS players in US. No reason to add a server.''

    This mods a total idiot. Doesn't know a shit. And that's why he was chosen to be mod,
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  • brappbrappbrappbrapp Posts: 34Member Beginner
    yes but I'm talking about CQC remove only or make a new mode.

    ok?

    this is totally possible.
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