Another player GM corruption begins?

NaverUWO · March 2018

This is something that we shouldn't take it easily.

As soon as Gazi logged off, GM char logged on for GM Battle Camp.

The way he plays and the way he talks perfectly fits with [CA]Huseyin_Gazi during the battle.

Tell me I am wrong. I don't want to quit again.

NaverUWO · March 2018

purplepirate · March 2018

not sure if you are saying they are the same person. Even 'if' it were true, so what? The GM (whomever he is) is trying to encourage maritime again be holding events like this. I find it funny that people talk about 'rebuilding maritime' but then pull stuff like what happened in BC tonight. All they highest end vets just teaming up for no other reason than to rank their own points farming newer/weaker players. The teams were grossly unbalanced but NONE of you would come over to make it better. People said that 'well they want to sink GM', ok you guys got a shot at that but then it was ME who told the GM to go over to you to see if anyone would come over to our side to balance, not one of you did. It shows that you didn't join for just the fun of playing pvp again and bring new players into maritime, it was just about ranking your own points by farming the less experienced and weaker players. That's why the GM stopped the event! Ironically, had better sportsmanship been shown to balance the teams, you guys could've ranked a lot more points and awards since it would've lasted for hours instead of a few rounds.
Me personally, i don't play BC for the points. I realistically know i'll never catch up in points to most of you guys have. I come for the pure fun of pvp and to hone my skills in an area. I actually don't mind being on the weaker side just because it's more of a challenge. I've only been doing maritime for just over a year now and compared to many of you guys who have played for years, i'm still a noob (i WISH i knew about this game years earlier!). I expect to get sunk in an overwhelming force of experienced players, however my reward is when i take some of you old vets down with me which must piss you guys off having a noob sink you :p lol.

NaverUWO · March 2018

@purplepirate

That's called leadership. He is not qualified as GM if he doesn't have good leadership to hold this kind of events. 'Trying' is something that everyone can do. Also, population is another factor. Already many people have quit due to the frustration from inactivity of PvP balance and the current economy situation along with terrible GM's management. You cannot expect the same kind of outcome compared to the past. Upcoming ESF will prove my words.

To solve the problem, freedom of pirates are required to attract more new players and lead them to grind maritime for a goal. Competition/Diplomacy/Excitement/Cooperation. All coming from skillful game play with risks and power.

Now why do we need to grind? To play GM Battle Camp? Mock each other? I will say behalf of most experienced maritimers: 'Sorry but not fun at all'

To be honest, no experienced maritimers like to be sided with newbies who are using unmodded ships with no battle skills. How to solve it? We need more maritime oriented companies that can help newbies and grow together. Again, to have this scenario, we need freedom of pirates to bring new energy to the game for everyone.

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not sure if you are saying they are the same person. Even 'if' it were true, so what? The GM (whomever he is) is trying to encourage maritime again be holding events like this.

It's not encouraging maritime. It's just showing another proof that PvP is dying.

Back to the point: Being a player GM is very critical to the game. We already have experience how worse it is in GAMA. Because of this game has nationality influence and if the GM like Gazi shows interest in supporting Dutch or France, it would cause something in favor for their nation. He has been helping French fleet for the historical event so we felt disgusted from seeing it happens.

purplepirate · March 2018

I only joined OGP in the last 1 1/2 years before it closed so i missed all those days with coolwind although i did hear bits about it. I doubt something like that would happen here as the population is just to low to make it worth while to cause any corruption. I don't blame the GM for his inexperience, how can anyone? These guys have only had the game for 5 months now and couldn't have spent the time needed playing the game to know truly how to direct it, notice they even started asking for new CA's? They want to learn more about this game and want help doing it. But that's why it's not just up to the CA's but ALL OF US to do our part in helping rebuild this game. And what happened tonight is counterproductive to that goal.
It's true nobody likes to be on a loosing team however by bringing some of you guys over and sending one of those under 30lvl guys over to spain would've made all the difference to create an 'overall' more balanced and fun game for everyone (I also suggested that one of them go over to spain to balance low players). Come on even if it was just for a few rounds of changing up sides, why is that so difficult for you guys???
They whole topic of pirates i agree with you that there's to much against them and not enough good ships even to make it really worth while. really hope that Koei realizes this and start releasing better faster pirate ships to balance out the game better. Making piracy/BH more interesting is a definite must in this game.

HelloAll · March 2018

I’d be happy if gazi was a GM.

1: he’d deserve it as he is balanced and non biased in dealing with people in this game.

2: he is experienced and truly loved the game and wants the best for it

3: he genuinely understands players and knows what changes need to be made to improve the game or even keep it running.

I don’t expect it to be true but I hope it is.

And I would expect any player should have to keep it confidential, especially when people instantly like to start throwing accusations.

HelloAll · March 2018

And reading the second post.
Maybe papaya need to change the recruitment process.

“Papaya play would like to announce we are looking to recruit aliens with no national preference for position of GM and CA”

And this is all coming for the guy that is literally Venice or nothing!

CrzyPsycoChick · March 2018

Huseyin thats my guy! I like him a lot really cool person as much as I like him I'm also against players with power due to obvious past experiences I had with Coolwind...but even then lets say GM waizo never ever did anything bias people would still THINK and ASSUME hes bias thus leading to mistrust and allegations of corruption even if none occurred like this very forum it always leads to trouble.

I'd only agree that having a player GM is a good idea if…

1. Player GM never ever reveals he is in fact a player

2. There is at ALL TIMES NO EXCEPTIONS a non partial supervisor of the GM who holds no Allegiance to the player or the player GM that oversees their activity. A non player of Uwo would be good or perhaps a GM from another Papaya game

3. There is an appeals process in which if you suspect bias you can appeal and have the non partial GM review the case.

4. Papaya makes it clear to all players who the supervisor is and how to report abuse by staff.

The main reason Saulwind got away with so much corruption like banning his enemies, lying on and doctoring tickets and allowing his friends to get away with scamming/harassing players in GAMA was because GM supervisor Waldo quit once he left everything went downhill from there and pretty much destroyed the game as long as there is a supervisor to keep a player GM in check its cool… no supervisor however and there is a HUGE Possibility a player GM can go rogue or people will think hes practicing bias a supervisor keeps players at ease.

Btw there is no proof Huseyin is a GM so everything is here say at this point... But regardless UWO needs a supervisor GM to oversee and combat any corruption of gm, ca or whatever.

fields1234 · March 2018

if gazi was GM so what, from what I have seen this GM Waziu only does BC/PVP battle stuff, If it is a player GM. I'm sure Papaya have their reasons for the name if true.

I don't see the problem if it is Gazi or if it not.

Either way though, I don't think this is about Gazi but I think the problem you have is more about trying to cause a stink. every week you got something else to moan about.

Culvern · March 2018

I hope Gazi is made a GM. He is a very considerate person that has always been a pleasure to deal with.

NaverUWO · March 2018

@fields1234

if gazi was GM so what, from what I have seen this GM Waziu only does BC/PVP battle stuff, If it is a player GM. I'm sure Papaya have their reasons for the name if true.

Sounds like 'I am pretty sure OGPlanet had a reason to hire a player GM and let him do what he wants to do for the favor of his nation and let's blindly trust the publisher for everything!' Sigh.

I don't see the problem if it is Gazi or if it not.

Of course there is a problem. If that is true, it will cause conflict of interest and effects directly to already worst reputation and trust level of Papaya Play.

Either way though, I don't think this is about Gazi but I think the problem you have is more about trying to cause a stink. every week you got something else to moan about.

I do and I will criticize whenever I find something is going wrong or deemed to unfair advantage against other players. And you don't have to worry because it's not stinky than your bored videos.

NaverUWO · March 2018

@Culvern

I do like him as a person but not as a GM.

lefox271 · March 2018

If Naver is right and maritime is dying, then I figure one of the things killing it is the arrogant and elitist behaviour of some of those 'vet' players.

Naver, stop asking why people aren't doing maritime, and start asking why people wouldn't want to do maritime with YOU.

Some of the best PvP I've had (in other games) is where a group of players agree to gear-down. It means that skill really counts. And it doesn't exclude newer players. If vet players think that would be too demeaning for them, then the problem is with the vet culture.

NaverUWO · March 2018

@lefox271

Every MMORPG has that kind of aggression each other. UWO is adult game. Not the game of children.

To encourage new players to educate themselves and increase their preparation is showing them how excite PvP is with numerous on-going sea activities. This is currently impossible without points that I have mentioned in above posts.

I agree with your third sentence but that is something that management team has to do.

I've made BattleCamp room with r10 skill cap with no college skills because of my skills were low but other maritimers were not very happy with it. This is because of all the good maritimers left the game already and remainings are unskilled pay to win players.

fields1234 · March 2018

Ok Naver, maybe you can explain how it affects nations etc. Maybe since you think my videos are boring maybe you could make a intresting video explaining how PVP affects the nations?

fliblew666 · March 2018

Gazi is not cocky in his battles, also to that GM if he/she see's this...don't threaten on a game. If you wanna try and sink someone who knows how to battle? :]

purplepirate · March 2018

@NaverUWO

I agree with your third sentence but that is something that management team has to do.

I've
made BattleCamp room with r10 skill cap with no college skills because
of my skills were low but other maritimers were not very happy with it.
This is because of all the good maritimers left the game already and
remainings are unskilled pay to win players.

True, even when i play BC i want to see how i perform with my full gear and skillls. But there is NO BC when you guys purposely stack the teams because no one will play or even bother with pvp. Back on OGP when ever we would do BC we would flip back and forth between the sides in order to balance out each round, but not here on PPP. It seems like people only want to play for themselves and don't care about 'rebuilding maritime'. After more people get into doing maritime and the community gets larger again, THEN people can take more of a 'self' attitude but for now we have to make sacrifices. There will be no community if people keep getting chased away without even being given a chance to try...

crazyhunter2003 · March 2018

"no experienced maritimers like to be sided with newbies who are using unmodded ships with no battle skills"

how does this help the maritime community? Answer: it doesn't

you,Naver,are an experienced maritimer,so this includes you.

fleeting with new players and helping them learn(mentoring) will help ,if only you and other experienced maritimers would do so

without an influx of new blood ,your precious maritime world dies

it is up to you to work towards saving it,not the GMs

WalkerDePlank1 · March 2018

Gazi is the least corrupt player in this game.

He has leadership skills
He is knowledgeable

He is fair

His heart is in improving the game

I highly doubt anyone with any real knowledge of him would not agree with me.

We need a lot more players like him.

If I see anything that I do not agree with, he listens and if need be he corrects his views.

Instead of bashing perhaps take some pointers from him. As far as I am concerned, I always felt I was a good check and balance with Gazi.

Wish we had more players like him.

GMBenya · March 2018

Ahoy Captains,

We would like to clarify certain matters about our [GM] characters:

- [GM]s in the "BC with GM" are NOT real GMs, who are just assigned by Papaya Play to help us run the event smoothly. They will do none of the GM tasks except for some occasions where Papaya Play needs their help to run events.

- Hence, the identities of those "GMs" do not affect Papaya Play's game operations.

- Since a specific UWO player's name appears in this thread as a target, this thread will be closed and similar posts in the future will be treated in the same fashion.

<To Identify Real GMs>

- GM characters with GM power have flags that say "GM" instead of national flags.

- When holding an Escape key on your keyboard, it makes all non-GM and non-NPC characters disappear for a moment until it is released.

Thank you for your cooperation,

[GM]Benya

Another player GM corruption begins?

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