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What nations have which crafting advantages?

VeclordVeclord Posts: 99Member Beginner
General Discussion
Pretty big question I know, but I would like to learn what others know in case I'm wrong. So far, my assessment goes like this:

English are good casters
Venetian might be good with sewing (?)
Dutch have cooking
Portuguese also have cooking (?)
French have handicrafts (?)

Only French can obtain the recipe books for tannery secret. Other than that, I'm really not sure.

Comments

  • VeclordVeclord Posts: 99Member Beginner
    Oops, I meant brewery secret (part 2). Not tannery secret.
  • chronofoxchronofox Posts: 72Member Beginner
    Non i would have to say really po2 counter any real negs to not being the nation that has control of x port.
    U can also buy any book from players of x nation if its a nation locked invest.

    Some nations have a better start but that about it once u hit say rank 6 it less about nation and more about cargo size and po2s/how much u can buy.

    cooking casting hc can all be done ine eu with out ever leaving sewing on the other hand i think it was from r5 or has a lot to do with india..But that may be getting off topic some.

    Better starts from what i know.

    casting both eng and dutch

    Sewing venice dutch

    cooking dutch but with Mysterious spices that give +5 ranks at any rank any nation is fine for starting

    handcrafts  i dont think any nation really has a 1 up on any other for starting out
  • SpooklesSpookles Posts: 287Member Intermediate
    Where you're from doesn't really matter in UWO, in the end a venetian is the same as an englishman.

    As @chronofox mentioned, some countries get better starting positions for a specific craft as your ship is probably still slow in the beginning.

    As example:
    Every country gets the same casting skill, yet to grind casting you want be in northern europe as that is where the ores bought.
  • purplepiratepurplepirate Posts: 994Member Intermediate
    I find that england is the best now for sewing since they added portsmouth and manchester. In pretty much every english city now you can get fibers and/or fabrics. All you have to do is just keep sailing around the country and you rank up in no time :)
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  • darknightowldarknightowl Posts: 19Member Beginner
    Keep in mind this is all just my personal opinion based off of my experience.

    I would say English and Dutch have the biggest advantage over any other nation to start with, mainly because you can start with Oxford as soon as you're levels 5/5/5. This helps your character grow much faster.

    With that said I'd have to admit England is best for casting, with Dutch or Spain as a 2nd choice. Choosing Spain also depends on what you intend to cast, as you'd be more limited for types of supplies. The ports of interest are:
    England
    • Plymouth
    • London
    • Dublin*
    • Manchester* (lumber)
    Dutch
    • Hamburg*
    • Lubeck*
    • Bergen* (lumber)
    • Oslo* (lumber)
    • Amsterdam (iron)
    Spain
    • Seville (if using firearms trade)
    • Barcelona
    * notes this port can be invested by any nation, though the nation it's listed under has better chance at control

    Casting farm : Diago Garcia

    Handicrafts I found was easiest to rank in France (Barcelona mainly) or Spain (Valencia). If you intend to do casting as well then just go by the casting list, since you can rank a good amount from bronze (bronze statues). While you can only get Brewery Secrets 2 book early from France, you can get it later from Havana as well.

    best Handicrafts farm: Saint Lucia (for veg oil and large leaves)...though any would help

    Starting with Venice does have it's advantages for Sewing, though I hate starting there. I find Dutch have the greater advantage later anyway with a natural influence over Oslo, Bergen (sheep), and Bremen (fur). England is another good choice as previously stated. I would STRONGLY suggest getting your farm started ASAP at Savaii if starting sewing as a solo craft or paired with handicrafts. No other farm can produce Silk Thread + Flax + Sisal (farm plot) and Wool (ranch plot).

    Cooking...really doesn't matter where you start. This is by far the easiest craft to rank with use of Mysterious Spices. All you need is Livestock Secrets - pigs book from Porto and a lot of pigs to get to r7 (pigs->pork->ham/bacon), then Secret Caribbean cuisine book from Santiago/San Juan to make Salted fish with nuts (r12 recipe...r7+mysterious spice).

    best farm: Saint Lucia (tuna)...though I wouldn't choose this farm based on cooking. Berries are more important and any farm can produce them.

    As others have already stated, in the long run it doesn't matter where you start. Everything I listed above pertains to early-mid game. What hasn't been stated, where you get your farm and what plots you put on it is most important!

    I hope this helps a bit.

    NI! (NEE)


  • LyonesseJosephLyonesseJoseph Posts: 637Member Intermediate
    None of them have advantage because any Nation players can make anything. Tbh, Dutch and English players have huge advantage over any Nation players when come to production skills. Thanks to Age of Revolution, you can make bunch of vig foods, cannons, etc while you're in Northern Europe. 

    Venetians do have one advantage when comes to Handicrafts because you can grind HC with lumbers/iron (Cattaro) and wheat (at Ragusa Tavern). This does work for any Nation players ,but Venetians will buy more trade goods. Then you can start to grind Sherry at Bordeaux. After you reach r12, u can start to grind Marble Statues between Athens/Salonika and Beirut or Cattaro. Last, you can grind Oil Paintings that you need to collect Common Grass or Vegetable Oils while buying Parchments at Athens.

    Northern Europe is best place to grind sewing, cooking, and casting.

    North America Southeast Coast is best place to grind storage ,but I recommend you to start @West Famagusta till you hit r3 storage or higher then can get Field Activity 1 and 2.
  • LyonesseJosephLyonesseJoseph Posts: 637Member Intermediate
    You can make Roasted Chicken w/Garlic, Grilled Lamb with Lime, Lamb chop with Wine, Seafood Pizza, Moussaka, Edam Gratin, Borscht etc in Northern Europe. Also, u can make some vig foods from Asia or other countries such as Baozi, Pot-au Feu, Pork Thick, Guejolpan, and others as well.


  • YunoAloeYunoAloe Posts: 114Member Trainee
    Spain is the best nation for ALL crafters. Because the Seville's company shop provides the amount of materials not comparable to any other place in the game, and you can combine them with mats stored in your quarters. Especially good for Alchemists.
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