Discussions issues about War Rock

CorvantesCorvantes Posts: 76Member Beginner
This is the time to talk about this game.

- I want to talk about some stuff and if I want to talk more there is no end.

- If you do not want to lose more players. Take care of this game that it is in your hands this game has died more than before. Focus on how to fix this game and listen to our feedback if you do not want to listen to our feedback. This game will die forever very soon. 
This game is really broken.

Focus on overclockers Scripters #dmgahack and Lag server & Drop FPS, We want a solution to this as soon as possible.

- I'm not saying they do not do a good job but they do things that we do not want. I know every update you are doing events, but this does not help keep the game alive or anything else.

- We want more balanced weapons and focus on the stronger weapons ( For example like p90 etc.. ) than the others, and then do what has not been done balanced in the next update.

- Also, I think you will know why we want NA server. Watch the video

Why this game is not as popular as other games?? For example, Look at this game ( PUBG ) always listen to the feedback! .There is always every update. Bug fixes and improvements and they say what will happen in the next updates with full info.image

We want full information about what will come in upcoming updates so that players know what will happen like other games.

Ah, and what happened to War Rock ESL? Yes really it is ( better than ever) War Rock ESL is closed. Nice good job. And what about the live stream ( Twitch )
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#Make_WarRock_Great_Again

Regards,








 
 
junovso

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  • GiroudFRGiroudFR Posts: 14Member Beginner
    Hello,

    First of all, don't continue with corrupt admins.It is ruining everything.

    -It is gonna come to 1 year soon, we are still waiting for Ranking system and ovc fix which promised on DE livestream.


    -Fix overclocking ( Don't say there are almost no overclockers,because ovcing killed the community.If someone kill you or someone playing better than you, HE IS OVCER!. That is the Warrock community.
    -Fix walkleaning
    -Fix fps problem and server lag.(Brazilian,Indian lags)
    -Ranking system
    -Do More livestreams with DE & LGM & HGM
    -Support the players who livestreaming on youtube & twitch.tv


    -Use social media more actively.Social media team is only sharing "flash"sales and maintenance notifications.Why don't u share the new poll which is about the tournament.
    Nexon made an event like : get 30,000 likes on facebook page then we will make exp event for 7 days!
    and they got it!!
    You can do social media events like that.Share good screenshots and videos about game, share forum topics.

    -Tips and trikcs topic should be linked if you create a new account.
    -Give more better weapons for new comers. (like perma 8th slot M60, 8th slot P90, smoke , medickit2 )

    -Make more competitive mods.
    -Make 4vs4 clan tournament,give unique prizes.In my opinion rewards should be like that : Top clan: Permanent Gold Medal ( part of skin ), 60 days premium gold package, 60 days golden tournament weapons.2nd team : 30 days premium gold package, 120 days Gold Medal, 30 days golden tournament weapons 3rd team: 15 days gold premium package, 60 days gold medal, 15 days golden tournament weapon.
    And give custom clan logo who participated to the tournament.

    -Reset the clan ranking.I mean ClanWarPoints should be reseted to 1000Point, not win&loses.
  • HGMPainHGMPain Posts: 151Approved Member Trainee
    Thank you for all your effort. We really appreciate when players took their time bringing up ideas. 


    @Corvantes


    - We are reading and discussing every user feedback and suggestion which are written in the forums, which we get over pm or over tickets. We are also releasing polls where the community can vote what they want. You can find these ingame on the right side of the serverselection.

    - We are really close to fix the OVC issue ingame. Our anticheatsystem EAC is doing a great job. The amount of hacker shrinked a lot. If you see anyone hacking please let us know (over our official Discord, ingame or write a ticket). The FPS- and Serverlagg issues are a bigger thing which need a lot time to fix it. Hopefully we will solve this issue in the future aswell.

    - Many players think that because we are bringing out Events and new modes, maps we neglect the major issues but thats not the case. We do everything parallel to let the game somehow interesting for users which are not as active in the forums and want to see new things.

    - Our aim is to modify the guns in that extent that they are balanced compared to the other guns ingame. Therefore there are a lot guns which are not good coded and needs big improvements where others need to get a bit weaker. Regarding the P90 it now has similiar stats to the MP7A1. So it's good balanced but we can think about doing some minor changes in the future. We are doing at every patch Weapon-Balances so stay curious!

    - Regarding NA, EU, Asia servers at the current state we don't have as much players to realize that. Once we are starting to advertise the game and getting lots of new players we can think about that.

    - We are doing lots of bugfixes and improvements but we do not publish these for certain reasons. We will do lot more of it in the following patches.

    - WarRock has been removed from ESL due to inactivity. Once we are getting more players we could think about bringing it back.


    @GiroudFR

    - The ranking system will be released after we fixed the OVC issue and we are really close to solve it.

    - Walklean is something which has todo with the invertleaning in the game. This is the core of the game and it would need a lot time to fix it. We will attack these issues in future.

    - We will discuss the livestream suggestion internally

    - Regarding your advertising suggestions we already thought about similiar things and will start these once the biggest issues are solved

    - The Tips & Tricks idea is good and we are planning to do something similiar

    - We will modify the weapons for new beginners

    - We are having a tournament poll running at the moment. Once it is closed we will release the results.


    Keep up the good work guys! We try our best to help you understanding certain things.


    Regards,

    [HGM]Pain

  • p0wner1180p0wner1180 Posts: 451Member Intermediate
    Useless answers from a HGM once again.

    ''Yes we listen to your guys feedback'' Ok, you guys finally listen, when do you guys implement it ingame?

    ''We are doing lots of bugfixes and improvements but we do not publish these'' Now, I don't care what the reason are, but how stupid can you be to NOT release them. LMAO.

    ''Ranking page will be released after an OVC fix, we are close to it'' Yeah sure, we are waiting one year for a fucking ranking page already, how hard can it be?

    ''Yes we are close to an OVC fix'' Saying that for one year already, maybe update us on this matter?

    And I don't want to be negative only, because, of course EAC is doing a great job by reducing the hackers. But still, everything takes too long, players are not gonna wait that long.

    Also I wan't to talk about a NA server. Papaya thinks like this: there are almost no NA players so we won't get a NA server. Of course there are almost no NA players because they are not able to play a decent game without lagg. This also applies for us who are from Europe, playing against players from outside Europe let's us experience a lot of lagg. Lagg result in people leaving the game and never come back.

    What about making one NA server, let it up for 2 months and see what it brings us? At least you (Papaya) could try this.
    CorvantesbacktothekeyPonury
  • backtothekeybacktothekey Posts: 14Member Beginner
    I agree everything what p0wner said you guys are taking to long... slow so slow... RESIDENTSLEEPER
  • saleh0124saleh0124 Posts: 0Member Beginner
    @Admins
    warrock is ruined already
    i got pernamently banned
     and it says Banned for cheating
    since there is no cheats at the internet for warrock right now
    its a fucking bullshit 

    backtothekey
  • backtothekeybacktothekey Posts: 14Member Beginner
    Saleh only because there aren't cheats on internet for warrock doesn't mean you can't cheat :D
  • backtothekeybacktothekey Posts: 14Member Beginner
    And if it was a mistake contact them and stop whining here.
  • HGMPainHGMPain Posts: 151Approved Member Trainee
    edited June 2018
    @p0wner1180

    What do you want to see us implementing? We are doing our best to change things the community wants. Thats why we are having polls which you can find on the right side of the server selection.

    We will release the ranking system once the OVC issue is solved.

    We know that certain things are taking a lot time but remember that DE doesn't have unlimited resources to anyway we do our best to bring up things as fast as possible but huge issues like OVC do need their time. Papaya didn't even have the game 1 year and we are very close to fix it. Other publishers had a lot more time and couldn't handle it.

    We will start thinking about new servers when we start advertising. I have noted your suggestion.



    Regards,

    [HGM]Pain



  • JackKnife2007JackKnife2007 Posts: 31Member Beginner
    We discuss everything on the team is the best joke ever.
    If I read this "we" babble, I could only laugh.
    Nobody believes you anymore.
    These hollow phrases like we are working on it, etc were already not funny with the other providers.
    Papaya will never get OVC under control and so you don't need to create a ranking page.
    We all know this tactic from the past with regard to a clan site.

  • LUULLULUULTLUULLULUULT Posts: 14Member Beginner
    HGM Pain " Once we are starting to advertise the game and getting lots of new players we can think about that."    But when? When will you start advertising?? When you lose all your players? It might not be the best idea that advertising the game when you lose your current users everyday.   
  • LUULLULUULTLUULLULUULT Posts: 14Member Beginner
    Does anybody here realise that how dead warrock is? There is bearly 5 pages in the cqc room. Very pathetic. You should know this situation well better than us as a administrator. My advice is: Just advertise the game! You need more players!
    Ponury
  • PonuryPonury Posts: 219Member Trainee
    Bg just 5-6 rooms ...
    Playing War Rock since 04/2007
  • NuffiiiNuffiii Posts: 202Member Trainee
    The only sad fact is that so many still refuse to accept that Warrock's time is running out.

    All those suggestions and ideas to improve or balance the game are nice but they are not enough.
    Warrock is a 10+ years old game that has lost the vast majority of its players.

    Even if you fix the performance problems and balance the game even more it will not be sufficient to get the game back to life. The last weapon balancings were nice but actually the guns are only the tip of the iceberg and not even close to "enough". Actually every Battle Groups map inculding the vehicles needs to be completly redone and balanced and certainly many or even all CQC-maps have their own little problems that require a thorough make over.

    Now ask yourself one question: Would you start a 100% make over for each available map for a game that has lost almost the whole player base? Of course not.

    And even if you decide to do it you still face the problem that Warrock is 10+ years old and has to many components that are a huge disadvantage when being compare with newer first person shooters.
    - stupid weapon solor schemes combined with even more idiotic effects
    - absurd capabilities of items / guns / vehicles (pistols that are capable of exact long range fire, aircarft that reload in flight, defensive weapon systems that do not work, trucks that survive 3 antivehicle mines and and and.)
    - a community that rather kicks new players than offering them a chance to learn or kicks them because a level 3 player must be a cheater when killing a level 70+ guy two times in a row.
    - a clear alignment. Right now Warrock is neither a military shooter nor anything else definable.
    - no multi core support.

    So basically someone would be required to not redo Warrock but to basically reprogram a whole new game. A game that is capable to compete with almost realistic shooters or whatever alignment they choose.
    Now again ask yourself a simple question: Would you reprogram a game that has so many problems that it lost the vast majority of its players?

    Of course not.

    You rather start something new instead of wasting the time fighting for something that is already dead.
    That's why we get nothing but more or less senseless updates while the big problems (known for years) remain untouched. New maps while there are hardly any players left to play the existing onces. New guns or mostly old guns with a new painting while most of us still only use a small percentage of the guns we own. The list is long and no end in sight.

    Warrock still can be fun. But only if one accepts that changing the tires, cleaning the engine and a major overhaul still does not turn an classic car into something that can compete with new, modern race cars.
  • HGMPainHGMPain Posts: 151Approved Member Trainee
    What would happen if we start advertising WarRock now?
    Players couldn't even start the game due to the EAC manually installing issue. After they solved this they are entering the game and joining a room where they got kicked immediatly. Next room they see overclockers running throw the whole map. Next room they see walkleaning, bugusing, insulting players playing with overpowered guns. These are some of the issues we have atm.
    So first we need to fix all these things and after doing it we will start advertising. Doesn't it makes sense?

    About the communication... We are answering all of your questions at that grade we are allowed to do. Anyway we are planning to make some new things regarding that.

    As you can see we are bringing up every Patchday not only Events etc. we are doing a lot to change the actual game but you guys can't see the work which is behind all that. You just going into it with a negative prejudice.

    We do offering permanent guns over mystery boxes, military keys, random boxes, Famas Retail boxes and we are doing Tier events where you can get a permanent gun after using a certain amount of WRC. You need to understand that Papaya is NOT like Nexon. We will NOT throw out retails like they did. That actually destroyed the whole economy ingame. Think about that.

    WarRock will NEVER die and it's not our plan to let it die. I will be the last one who will give up working on it and you guys should be the last ones who are supporting us because the game is nothing without his players thats why WE ARE hearing what you guys want. We appreciate all your effort we talk like every day about suggestions you guys made and talk about realizing these. We are discussing balancings a lot in detail before releasing them. There will always be some who won't like the changes but thats how its working when you change stuff.

    What are your expectations guys? Papaya can't solve issues in less than 1 year where 3 publishers before couldn't handle it in 10 years. You shouldn't be so negative and shouldn't only look for negative things. We already did a lot and fixed a lot and we won't stop doing that:


    Regards,

    [HGM]Pain
    Ponury
  • Mrterr0rMrterr0r Posts: 244Member Trainee
    You talk of balance yet one of my biggest causes of death in BG comes from the Aw50 with a single shot to the body with full health. Yet every time I read a post of any admins the Aw50 is never mentioned. Instead you mess about with other weapons which on a whole do not effect the game play and player movement around a map like the Aw50 does. This is clear by every big map having been modified over the years to allow players places to hide from theses overpowered weapons. 

    It happens time and again someone dies from this weapon so they switch to it and before long like any unrestricted room everyone is using this weapon. 16/16 and having 30 players all with the same 1 hit kill feature ruins games. >>The objective is capture the flag not to lay down<< yet this never gets addressed because you know the backlash which will follow if you make it impossible to kill in one hit to a player with FULL HEALTH! 

    I have had games where i have been hit 25 times in total through out the whole game yet my death count sits around the 18 mark because i have repeatedly died from a single shot while having full health. Headshot me i have no issues but hit my body and i die from someone i cannot see or even defend myself against on the larger maps with full health is BS especially when facing a team of Aw50 users. 

    ...

    Dont you think allowing players to have 8th slot, 5th slot and 3rd slot is its self without equipping any weapons overpowered? to any player who is free to play. One man army hiding behind the games paywall. 

    Tanks are useless these days because a single player has enough ammo to destroy 1/2 tanks before reloading on maps like ohara its now a waist of time trying to use a tank because you enter a jav locks on fires 2 rounds and tanks dead. Or you meet a P2W heavy that can fire enough rounds at the tank that the only option is to bail... Ruined by overpowered and over used weapons. While a f2p player has and RPG which takes 3 or more hits and mp5.

    Players who have Aw50 in 3,5,8 how many 1 hit kill weapons does a player need. Nothing like using the games most powerful weapon in every slot. Yet majority of unrestricted games end up sniper vs sniper. 

    But someone who hides in the sky can spend all game rocket spamming with little to worry about because a large amount of rockets even when locked on miss (MD500) . Or there so high in the sky that you cannot see or hear them (a10) and when over main base its impossible to angle any weapon to hit theses planes. You just get hit by a bomb without seeing or hearing the A10

    Cap the MD500 ammo making players think before just spamming rockets at everything. And stop them being re-loadable or increase the time massively to help slow the onslaught that happens.    

    Allowing none medics to heal rather then seek a medic or med station again this causes the game play to suffer. Shooting someone should panic that player and make them think before acting not for them to jab and regain there life again. Wanna rambo across the map then you should have to suffer being hit or play as a team and have a medic nearby... Med stick needs removing Or capped at one time use per game to make it a tactical item rather then dependent every life.  

    Stamina why is this even in game? CQC ppl dont want it and its a massive advantage in Bg where i can take a base kill someone yet 2 seconds later that player has speed back to the base. This has an even bigger impact on the smaller maps and again n
    eeds removing Or capped at one time use per game to make it a tactical item rather then dependent every life.  

    Fast reload and fast charge.... why? Why do we need to reload faster or rearm faster its just another cash cow for the players who hide behind the game paywall and again does have a big impact on gameplay for people who use it and dont use. 

    Stupid stats... Just make everyone have the same stats regardless of f2p /p2w again dividing players based on money.

    I dont see any real change towards balance.


    ....

    Why is a player with 5-11 years experience in a room with an account created last week?

    Why are level 50- 100+ accounts playing 1-10s ? We should not even be in the same room so I ask why is there no restriction based on level allowing "new" players a chance to learn the game without being smashed by p2w long term players. 1-21 to 21-120 make it impossible to even be in the same room. 


    Why wont you stop people rejoining teams?  This effects game play massively and its not low level new players doing this its long term, a lot of time p2w players that are the re-joiners. 

    Why wont you stop BG games starting with small amount of players. does a 32 player room starting with 2 people sound right. Why not cap the amount of players needed to start these rooms. 

    This leads on to team stacking and again like the re-joiners this is not new low level players this is long term experinced players who spend the majorty of there game time stacking teams. Lets all hide in the lobby and drip feed into this room rather then line are clan up wait for even teams and then start... Nah its better to start 2v1 have the member rejoin while they take all base and spawn trap and new players to that room.... This happens way to often in Bg. 

    I could log in now and easily show the same igns the same clans team stacking, rejoining and hiding behind the games paywall playing players who are of a low level and free to play, 


    but what have you done about any of the above? 


    Hey guys new sale new week get ya wallet ready. As money is all we care about, forget gameplay. 


      













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  • DruidaDruida Posts: 387Member Trainee
    Why u cry about aw50??? for me need 2 on head or 3 need on enemy body  with it and 1 kill me in any place :)
    I kill with max amo clip almost any gun and 3 amo colt kill me...

    I kill K1A1 tank using all my rockets with rpg BUT 3 kill me cause 4,5 damage/each

    I die with def tank by 5 shoot and kill minimum with 7, on some OVC hero need 15 or more

    I can kill around 20% of gamers with 3 land mine in 1 place, and it damage on me 4,9 each, now i planting 4 in a buncs and still need some more damage to kill of some OVC heroes

    2 max rpg to kill 1 afk, and 1 kill me even it is just a plash damage

    Took me 5-6 years to do 100 granate kill, cause even if i trow 2 in a 6 man grup in tunel, no one dies, but i die when i see exploding enemy granate even if it is front of my ally who no die and i far behind him, but see explosion so i die

    Repair acessori shall repair u up to 40%, but some gamer get max repair with it to 100, so after 9-10 rocket they still on max HP

    lot to be fixed, so cant be the aw50 your bigest problem, or u just make room with no snipers in it :9
    Ok maybe u right some gamer still will sue sniper class and aw50, 2 day ago medik with land mines + PSG that was funny he was my ally :))))))))))))) (luck on my side LOL)
    Only 1 kick a day... it tell all about game

    Sugestion no more kick at all, but button to report gamers, if counter reach 5-6 GM look into room :)
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