Is it worth to come back?

oakflesh · July 2018

I stopped playing when Papaya became the owner of the game (i invested too much time in my character to start all over again). So I have to start everything from scratch.

How's the playerbase? Both in size and quality.

How's the game quality? Did the game improve?

WesDoobner · July 2018

I played for 3 years on OGP, started over from scratch on papaya and I'm having a blast. I play every day except for the 5 days I missed while I took my family on vacation. If you want a fun game it's worth it, but if you want the game to be the same as it was at some time in the past you will probably be disappointed.

pekkauwer · July 2018

except you forget the pirate still feast not -24hr right now, its -1hr

some "Justice" yawn

miyamoto · July 2018

@ Oak i just DL and have a look in the Game. Graphic game play remain same. Recent news is piracy will be death because some of pirate get banned xD. So if u going back into trade or adverture class might be good. Game economy is not as good, why cos many stuff is far overprice. Player base is relative low honestly. You might find only the some hardcore gamers is back but afk in game. I dont see many mocks or BC active. i even find ESF is death. But if u are a solo gamer it good news,cause u can play quietly LOL.

However, It best for u to see yourself. And it really depend your own gameplay. If u have the whole life time and dont mind regrind again, and dont mind to spend again even if it going to be gone.

theedgedemon · July 2018

if anyone gets banned it wont be precisely for doing piracy, if anything the game has taken some steps to try to make it more easy for pirate.

inflation is hard true, but on the flip side with clermont out many trade ships are now affordable to everyone, Killadub, Roiber and a few more try to keep BCs almost daily and last ESF had over 50 people in battle at same time in portsmouth.

the population truly is smaller but i would like to think it is generally more friendly.

im having fun and plan to keep doing it for as long at it last but its up to you to decide.

YunoAloe · July 2018

> How's the playerbase? Both in size and quality.

Below average.

> How's the game quality? Did the game improve?

Define "improve". The game has changed. The way it's changed is best described as inflated (older activities pay less relatively to newer ones).

Edgedemon · July 2018

the player base is smaller but i would like to think better, a few predatory resellers, but rather friendly everyone else.

They have changed a few things to the benefit of battle focused people, red /blue can now be forced into deck battle bringing land battle back into play, you can now attack a same player each hour instead of each day, and slightly limited but you can plunder other players.

also i think the cove is a decent implementation of the cash store, availability of most things is stable now and we are expecting a big overhaul in shipbuilding with order of the prince.

my suggestion is you could return as a casual player doing something different than you did before and try waters for yourself.

supercagan · July 2018

just a few players left, papaya is making money milking whoever is left,
just check out the crafting is dead because cash shop wins topic. I
also installed and played for a few days after many years. Do not waste
time, papaya will shut don or reset servers again to maximize profit.

darknightowl · July 2018

If you have to bother to ask the question the answer is: no.

There are more players than at the end of Gama, and definitely more pirates. So basically there are more complaints. Having to ask the question means you'd be one to log in and add to those complaints.

purplepirate · July 2018

@supercagan you're not very bright are you? Papaya won't reset the characters again, they learned their lesson with a massive drop in player base because they underestimated how long the skill grind is in this game. The host needs to make money, without it there would be NO game period. However what they should've done was leave the characters and just empty the inventories, after all they don't make money on our lvl's and skills only on the our gear and ships. If they did another character reset they would kill their revenue as even less people would come back again and practically none would risk putting money into their company again so relax there will be no character reset again. If you love this game then just play it because you love playing it period. Your pessimism shows that you are one of those 'complainers' and don't appreciate the fact that we have a host to play UWO on.

FYI, there was NO reset. This is a different server from gama that's why we all had to start over again, it's no different than if we went to one of the Asian servers, we'd still have to start over there as well if we wanted to play as characters are NOT transferable between servers. This is MARIS not GAMA, different server!

mondobogus · July 2018

@purplepirate

While I agree with most of your first paragraph, the part about not making money from us losing levels or skills is false: buff charms/enticing low level ships.

Your second paragraph is just wrong altogether. The servers haven't moved since GPotato. A simple "whois" on their IP address would tell you so. I've come to accept The only difference from the start til now is what name the company is currently using. The wipe was a cash grab that we all have to accept or move on.

Klandestine · July 2018

Come on back and give it a try. I did and am loving it. You;ll get some buff items to ease the grind and honestly, the one thing this game needs more than any other is more players. Some come back, tell your family, your friends and even your enemies if you have any, to come on and try it as well. It costs nothing to try and if you don't like it, it costs nothing to leave again. Hope to see you in the game!

purplepirate · July 2018

@mondobogus with the exception of my skills, i'm way farther ahead in ships and gear than i was 9 months in on OGP. And yes this is a different server, the ip doesn't make a difference to the fact that this is Maris not Gama. I wasn't around in the GPotato days to compare ip's, but having to 'link' our old accounts to see where we fell for the founders rewards shows that this is a different physical server. It doesn't really make sense that their ip would be the same as OGP when OGP folded and Vertigo games would have their own servers unless Koei owns the ip and has kept control over the central sever during all the different transistions of hosts.

JamesHart2 · July 2018

Played during the Netmarble, OGP and now papaya days. Up to todays announcement for the 'Order of the prince' update I would have said without question this is the best MMO out there. However with the removal of PVP restrictions for pirates this is going to become just another battle ship game and there are far better games out there for that.

My toons are trade and adventure based. I played this game when you where sunk 10 times in 10 minutes when I first started in Netmarble. So unless you are a player who has already been playing a pirate toon since it relaunched you don't stand a chance. I will probably be leaving the game with this update and wait till they put at least a 1 hour restriction back in place since it is impossible to do anything when a pirate is waiting on top of your ship for you to get back up just to be plundered immediately. Your only option at that point is to shipwreck losing everything you where trying to do.

So NO it is no longer worth playing.

purplepirate · July 2018

@JamesHart2 you've been away far to long lol. first off you CAN'T farm white players. Until recently pirates were only allowed to attack a white player once per 24 hour period, now it's once per hour (but this is only a trial period). And this is FAR from being just a battleship game now, most of the real maritimers have left because of the long regrind it takes to get back to where they were before with their skills. Yes there are some pirates but there's so few now that it's highly unlikely you'll encounter one unless hes port camping.

Secondly, it's so hard to plunder now as ALL uwc items are not plunderable so the only thing pirates can really get is the odd ship part and/or cargo, plus most pirates will give back any items they plunder. As for avoiding pirates you can always just use a tribute or blue flag, both of which are easily gotten in the game now. Really James you should actually play the game first before making assumptions about it.

JamesHart2 · July 2018

With the upcoming update on August 1st that is exactly what has been announced. "The upcoming update also removes the current PvP restrictions that disallows pirate players from initiating sea battles against the same player for one hour" how else can that be interpreted ? I have experienced being farmed by pirates in the netmarble days before the restrictions on pirates was put in place. This is explicitly saying those restrictions will be removed. With that 1 hour restriction in place a player who has no interest in PvP has a chance to get away with your remaining cargo after being sunk. That makes it possible to do great things and makes the game a fantastic trade and adventure platform. Without the restriction it is an all out feeding frenzy for pirates who can sink you over and over again. That would be a repeat of history not something new.

CrzyPsycoChick · July 2018

I just read what James is talking about on the official Papaya announcements ...it appears he is correct they are removing the 1 hour limit. They are taking Navers plan to make everyone farmable...I'm speechless.

Hmmm seems we are in the golden age of piracy period again. I have no idea how to predict how this will go...

1.I think this will definitely lower prices as you can't just run nanban uninhibited

2. I think more pirates will give rise. And I think more bounty hunters will rise to challenge them.

3. Traders will be forced to either buy unplunderable goods or flags or spam fine tribe from Boston box

4. With the negation of crafting and the increased difficulty I suspect a lot of traders to quit or resort to dungeoning in bourduex and hopefully become deck battlers and become bounty hunters

5. We will see a revival or maritime companies and rivalries

6. Overall status of the game I don't know we'll just have to see I guess

Not a fan of traders being farmed but if his lordship Naver bullies hard enough I guess we can't escape his bidding I just hope hes right about this reviving the game.

purplepirate · July 2018

funny, you said you played on OGP but yet you think whites can be farmed over and over again and this is just not the case. Even on OGP pirates had a 24 hour restriction to attack the same person again and that rule carried over here. Recently they changed that rule to 1 hour as a trial period. But regardless of how long it takes before a pirate can reattack a player again, as a non maritimer you should be using tributes and/or blue flags anyways or just ask a BH to escort you. Pirate problem solved... Still doesn't change the fact that the maritime population is at an all time low because of the skill grind. Honestly you are worrying about nothing. Maritime is a large part of this game and Koei is trying to revive it, even as a BH maritimer i find it's incredibly difficult to find pirates to sink because there's so few of them.

Bottom line, if you like this game then say it (since you play you must enjoy it), don't tell people false truths just because your point of view is negative about one aspect of it (maybe oakflesh likes the maritime part of the game). You are implying that this game is crawling with pirates so as a non maritimer it's impossible to play. This is just not true...

CrzyPsycoChick · July 2018

Culvern · July 2018

I am assuming that the 5 minute green flag will still play its part. Anyone that cannot elude, escape, make it to port, safe waters in that amount of time just is not trying.
A barca could do it.

So no worries to the traders at all it seems unless they don't even try to play the game.

theedgedemon · July 2018

i wish i had your confidence Culvern. without crew against a full decked pirate ship? you wont move 100 mts before youre killed again! if they are determined to grieve you there is no way a casual player will escape farming.

how many tributes can you give before you ran out of money and lose aide trust because a troll considered that fun?

everyone is now left in the hands of pirates mercy, and we all know how mature an average person on the internet can be.

purplepirate · July 2018

you could always just 'shipwreck' option. last resort of course...

theedgedemon · July 2018

yes could and potentially be locked in a port for hours on end... if there comes a day where being unable to buy a blue flag means being unable to sail at all it will be the beginning of the end.

purplepirate · July 2018

i can't see them doing that. But this will potentially generate more revenue for them.

JamesHart2 · July 2018

Between my toons I have been paying on average $50 per month to papaya since restarting to play last year. I was about to buy some more UWC for the new treasure cove update when I saw this announcement. I will not pay them any more money while being farmed by pirates is an option. Being caught and raped one time is normal and accepted, but continuously is unacceptable and will happen.

So they have lost at least my $50 per month.

WesDoobner · July 2018

Boy people sure do worry a lot about pirates, when all they can do is maybe plunder a few millions of ducats during a 100m nanban or spice run. Really? that's what you're worried about? If so, maybe you're just too much of a pussy to play this game. If you can't move on during the green flag period, how are you able to navigate normally? It's not that bad even in my clipper with 26 crew. And if it bothers you just sail in a battleship for lead ship. Problem solved.

LyonesseJoseph · July 2018

Tbh, Papaya isn't much different from OGP ,but I am certainly that Papaya did better job than OGP did. However, Papaya needs to put boost permanent on that OGP and Asia server had. I think players will be back after Order of Prince expansion updates. Chapter 2 won't be issue for traders/adventurers that detest maritime ,but it will take for awhile before CH2 will be updating on probably January.

Between my toons I have been paying on average $50 per month to papaya since restarting to play last year. I was about to buy some more UWC for the new treasure cove update when I saw this announcement. I will not pay them any more money while being farmed by pirates is an option. Being caught and raped one time is normal and accepted, but continuously is unacceptable and will happen.

So they have lost at least my $50 per month.

I am not surprised at all after all too many players are fucking pacifists ,but they probably will quit then will play different peaceful games ie VCO. Since you spend about $50 per months on UWO, you probably can afford to buy 10x blue flags then get some fine tributes. Make sure to put your equipment and valuable items into vault, storage including shared and strong box, and bags. You can take advantage of safe waters when come to right time. You shouldn't have issues with piracy at all since you probably will build powerful ships and craft uber equipment because Order of Prince will introduce Custom SB, Modified for Alchemy/Ganador, OP ships such as Victoria, Malta Galley, etc, and variety of business.

rangerzfan · July 2018

Will definitely be interesting to see how this new Chapter progresses. If this game is leased for 1 year, PP upgraded the infrastructure at the 9 month mark of UWO. I guess maybe they want to see how this last quarter goes in this more MT-centric mode. I gotta say, I think the farming issue will cause problems, but I really want to check out these new SB options. I only run nanban one or two days a month and have several tribs sitting unused from the colony runs. Also, I like blue flagging it during nanban days. I slashed a little of my spending at the moment, so I can move a little of that to flags. Just have to be more careful on colony runs since I spend more time there. If this new Chapter ultimately kills off what is left, I am still glad I came back after the reset. Atleast I will get to see what I can overmod on my poor little 4/4 BTC.

YinYangSparty · July 2018

you could..... I don't know.......... pay maritimers to guard you instead of running 5 characters in one fleet. Oh wait that involved participating in the multiplayer aspect of the mmo experience and using your "hard earned" money. But what do I know I'm just an idiot who knows nothing about this game

rangerzfan · July 2018

@YinYangSparty

The 5-ship multiboxes are pretty much gone. I do not think I have seen a true one on a while. PP seems to have cleaned them up pretty good albeit with some innocents taking a hit too. The allowed 3 toons with Clermonts in tow are enough.

HypatiaCade1 · July 2018

This will certainly shift the player base. yes it will probably encourage some new MT player. But, with the hollowing out of crafting in addition to the unrestricted piracy this will encourage there will definitely be a loss of the trader base. Sorry but some players just have no interest in PvP, either in being a Pirate nor a Bounty Hunter. We do not force those interested in PvP to craft why should those who enjoy crafting be forced to do PvP ?

Is it worth to come back?

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