The Smoke Grenade Change

alienbooya2alienbooya2 Posts: 46Member Beginner
What has changed?
The smoke grenade is changed in the way that players from the team that used the smoke grenade see a much thinner smoke than the opposing team.


Hai there,

So, the smoke grenade got changed and it feels like it hit deathmatch really hard. The change that was made to it was to probably make the smoke grenade a usefull item, but I think it has been changed to a portable glitchlean. The enemy that you're trying to shoot isn't visible for you, and the enemy can see you, so you just have to assume that in every smoke there will be a player hiding. I feel that this is unhealthy for the game, or atleast for the DM players.

So I'd like to make a suggestion. Make the smoke grenade for all the teams thinner, to even the playing field, or revert it back to it's original state to make it actually a smoke grenade, because to be fair, a smoke grenade is used to cover a peekpoint, not to camp inside of the smoke.

With kind regards,
Ward




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Comments

  • DruidaDruida Posts: 387Member Trainee
    Camping inside a smoke only work if u use a no smoke hack ON, so it is a good stuff to spot hacker in game :) so it is a usefull item, u just need to remember their names!
    DragonForceWRalienbooya2
  • DragonForceWRDragonForceWR Posts: 520Member Intermediate
    edited August 2018
    @Druida
    You are wrong. Everyone can camp inside a smoke. Throw a smoke nade urselfe an you will see that
    as long as YOU or a TEAM MATE throw that nade you will be able to look through. There isnt any Hack needed.
    Btw.
    EAC Bans every Cheater within 3-6 Days. It doesnt matters if the Hack
    is detected or undetected. 3-6 Days after ussage the player will be
    banned. Even if its a "VIP" Hack.  Thats why
    REMOVED stopped to
    produce.
    Druida
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  • DruidaDruida Posts: 387Member Trainee
    I trow and i cant see outside it :)
    this is why i told u try game with out hacks!
    alienbooya2
  • linkinxerolinkinxero Posts: 174Member Trainee
    Sounds interesting if true.

    What should happen is the smoke grenade acts like a physical object and prevents your crosshair from blinking red when someone passes behind it. Make the smoke thin or thick after that change as desired, but if we can't detect an enemy behind the smoke with crosshair, it makes it a much more interesting item.

    But I do favor thinner smoke so the game can run better. I'm curious about this FPS display in the game itself, will be nice to show that I have like 25 FPS.
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  • DragonForceWRDragonForceWR Posts: 520Member Intermediate

    Ur so fkn blind lol.
    Just to show you how "blind" you are - Here a short Video (+Taskmanager just for you):



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  • SirJuxSirJux Posts: 64Member Beginner
    Portable glitch lean you say? so why is it bad again? 
    I mean glitch lean is literally same thing and it is allowed. ( you know where enemy is, he can shoot you but you cant shoot him )
    the difference is that you can kill a person siting in smoke if you guess the spot he is, but you cant even hit a person doing proper invert lean.

    As long you people do bug lean, you kind have no valid reason to have smoke grenade changed.
    people who rush on small cqc DM maps will still do it, smoke just makes them blind for few seconds until they have rushed through it.

    besides Its not that heavily used so why complain? Invert lean is much bigger problem. I say they need to fix lean where camerea view moves to the side proper ammount ) and then try to update smoke grenade
  • alienbooya2alienbooya2 Posts: 46Member Beginner
    @SirJux

    Hai,

    In my opinion invertleaning made the game part of what it is today, if you would remove it part of the 'lean battle' would be gone, I personally think they could never remove it, since it has been part of the game since the beginning. 

    The reason why I disagree with the smoke change is because it gives the team that is using the smoke an unfair advantage over the other team, and is really difficult to play around. It forces players to always see smoke as a threat in the game. The best example that the smoke grenade change is bad in my opinion, is in Rusty Nails: if you throw a smoke at a choke, you instantly have a major advantage because the person that threw the smoke can see everything and the other team just has to guess. If the smoke was the same for both teams it has a minor inpact on the gameplay, which should be the case for a tactical grenade, it should not be used as a way to exploit an advantage.

    With kind regards,
    Ward
    Yeet
  • SirJuxSirJux Posts: 64Member Beginner
    They don't need to remove invert lean, they just need to fix it. Atm, the viewpoint moves to the side way less than the characters heads, that's why it becomes bugged.

    And using smoke… if you see smoke, then why you see it as a unfair advantage. "use your brain" like dbag likes to say and don't go there. Wait until it wears out, or even… throw in your own to counter it. Too many players in Wr start to complain about things without even trying to handle it first. And if you think playing the old way is trying to handle it, then you are just narrow minded.

    In my opinion, invert lean done well is far worse than using smoke nades.

    Better players cope with situation, the bad ones do same thing over and over and over and if that still doesn't help, then they want problem to be changed.
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