What is required to force deck on an NPC ship?

Veclord · August 2018

Figured I would ask this, since it seems to get your hands on the best recipe books for casting/sewing you've got to either pay exhorbitant amounts of money (I don't even see anyone selling them at all) or go plunder the books yourself.

But here's the thing...I'm mainly an adventurer. I can still take out stronger enemies through trap skill and other techs I have, but I can only use them if it's a deck battle.

So how can you force deck on an opponent? I know you have to be locked in a melee with the admiral of the enemy fleet, but then what? Does your crew have to outnumber your enemy's numbers and that's it? Or do you need crew

Veclord · August 2018

(Pressed the post button before I was done)

Or do you need superior crew numbers AS WELL AS higher attack and/or defense?

I searched but could not find a reliable source for this info.

theedgedemon · August 2018

there is a skill for that but no easy ship to get it besides CKW, however i think it is the wrong direction, you don't actually want to win those battles just plunder them, and deck battle is likely to have less chances for plunder.

You don't need high melee ranks for rare item plunder since you want the battle to last as long as possible, just to have more def than the enemy and hold on as long as you can... and surgery you can use an alt or a friend for that.

i would get a ship just for this, with WMB + APN or SpecialSternCastle, add all the durability and armor i can fit in it and finally an aide "seize cargo".

easiest to get would be either a Norske Lowe or a FIS or if you don't want to spend a simple Heavy Carrack can have that skill and 180 crew. you can of course inherit WMB in any other ship you want but if you don't fight i would avoid adding it to any mid-high cost ship.

HuseyinGazi · August 2018

A similar question has been asked after about an half year, here is my answer from one of my old post:

"In order to force deck battle, you must succeed through the sailor obstruction of your opponent. The only way to do that is by having a better crew number than your opponent along with sufficient loyalty. A trader with 30 crew has less than 20 % chance to initiate deck battle vs a pirate that has 250+ sailors.
Whenever your current amount of sailors equals to your opponent roughly, chance is then approx. 50 % with decent crew and then when you've about twice or higher crew than your opponent it is close to 90 %.
This can deviate though as HelloAll stated regarding the deck barrier or assault deck shipskill. It is not easy to engage a pirate generally in deck battle and there are pirates that has decent land battle skill that even can outwin traders/adventurers. :x
Anyway, I hope this information helps regarding this. ^^
Kind Regards, "
This rule also applies for doing PvE and deck battle is very helpful for grinding battle, arms and obtaining techs. If you do it for plunder, then I would do what thee is saying.
Cheers!

BlakeC · August 2018

Huseyin_Gazi is correct in that you need an overwhelming force to get deck battle to work successful. The more crew you have against your opponent, and the higher your loyalty and crew ability, the better the odds. A couple of things Id like to add on though:

The Assault Rope consumable will allow you enter to deck battle with surety against NPC fleets regardless of crew status. You can buy them with the craftsman NPC at all capital cites. At 100k a pop however, their not cheap. But it's useful if you have no ship with a high crew count and money is no objection.

Depending on your battle level, I think it's faster to level battle with dungeons (such as Bordeaux and EA) and land areas until you reach your 50s. Then you can get something like a Vaisseau, Galleass, or a Ambush Atakebune which has plenty of crew for your deck battle needs.

Culvern · August 2018

The best way to ensure you are able to obtain the books you are looking for is:

Get a high crew ship.

Rank you melee skills to r15.

Rank plunder skill to r15 refined.

Buy a plunder EX weapon.

Get +plunder gear till you hit r25.

Get oxford skills rare item plunder, and the seize cargo oxford boosts.

Get aide with seize Caro and aide stats to 100

To boost rare item plunder pirate till you can use Cranio Espada title.

Then you will be ready to grab your book!
Or just buy it for 10m from someone.

theedgedemon · August 2018

@Culvern i call BS, i have gotten most plunder books under rank r10 in all melee and plunder and without the oxford skills, that setting would only make any sense to farm the engineers chest and even then is way overkill. you don't even need a plunder ex, although getting at least one skill to r11 for rare item plunder may make a difference.

his problem is actually the 100m+ books which considering you only need one is still doable, but his way to play

Culvern · August 2018

@Theedgedemon Relax. Of course it can be done with less. I am make a point.
If he is not willing to put in some decent effort then he should not be concerned with the price of buying the books from those that have put in a ton of time and effort.
I'd he wants to put in the effort, it can be a long journey.

crazyhunter2003 · August 2018

remember ,too,you can only DB vs admiral

Culvern · September 2018

Damn autocorrect spelling errors.

What is required to force deck on an NPC ship?

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