Done quiting

dakidd82 · September 2018

Well i for one am done i saved for months to get Alchemy robe and was hit by a pirate they took it because i was told it couldnt be plundered so screw it they can take nice items im done will not return 3 months of trading to get something to have it gone in 30seconds by pirates ur game is not even enough if i wanna trade and enjoy it i should be allowed to but that wont happen have a good life UWO u will fall shortly

lefox271 · September 2018

I feel for you mate. I understand why you are choosing to quit.

Some people will say you were careless and have no one to blame but your self. But that just misses the point. It's just too harsh for a moment's carelessness to undo months of work.

It shows the downside of piracy. It can cause players to leave the game.

CrzyPsycoChick · September 2018

@dakidd82

You can get the robe returned to you by the GM IF they truly said it couldn't be plundered they will return the item to you as it means its a bug. Just file a ticket.

@Pirates

This is the part yall don't care about and we kept trying to tell you about losing items after getting farmed will lead to quitting. Well, now you see it first hand so we weren't overreacting. ..

chronofox · September 2018

Dont sail with what u are not willing to risk.just because someone told it couldnt be plundered does not make it true.Inless it was said by a gm or on the list i think that was out a long time ago listing some of the things that could not be plundered.

Also was it really plundered or did u shipwreck and lose it.I have seen people do this in the past and claim it was plundered when it was not..

And if u want to talk about the real pirates/scum of the server we can talk about cash/resellers prices are even more crazy now adays with even less of a player base. that logic lol

lefox271 · September 2018

And it's not about player pirates it's about plunder. Because you can get mugged by npc pirates and lose good gear.

fields1234 · September 2018

as far as aware Robe ex has never been on the list and has always been plunderble.

I feel your pain as that is a huge 1.8b loss for you, but like others have said, put them in valult or somewhere else if you not prepared to lose it

theedgedemon · September 2018

were you hit by a player pirate or an NPC?

if im not mistaken Alchemist Robe is uwc equip and therefore should be unplunderable by player pirates, and you should make a ticket to report it, however i believe all equipment is still plunderable by npcs.

purplepirate · September 2018

@chronofox Also was it really plundered or did u shipwreck and lose it

i thought shipwrecking only causes you to loose all your trade goods? You can loose gear as well?

CrzyPsycoChick · September 2018

Shipwreck can lose items aswell I think anything you have can be randomly lost… but I did lose an item shipwrecking before a long time ago.

I hate it but its fair im sure they put it to discourage "shipwreck" teleporting

carssman · September 2018

Yes you can randomly lose an item in your coffers hitting shipwrecked and absolutely yes can you lose your highly valuable Robe EX as it’s not a UWO item rather crafted alchemist item.

It is on the list

Sorry for your loss

pieratthe · September 2018

Well i can tell u first hand, cause i'm the one who stole it from Led. We was in java it was hostile waters, not lawless and i waited on fleet mate to kill his alt before i melee'd him and plunder'd the robe ex. He had a good 10-20 seconds to use a tribute but he didn't So i didn't return. U can rebuy it from me thou if u'd like.. Mite even give little discount

theedgedemon · September 2018

@carssman wait the base material for those is not UWC? then why is it that costly?

YinYangSparty · September 2018

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, this game attracts stupid people. Good riddance

pekkauwer · September 2018

^said by stupid and moron player itself

carlalex · September 2018

@theedgedemon You need UWC items to make it.

First you have to take an adpets robe, which is hard to make (you need a very rare result from an alchemy experiment and r13+ alchemy skill (without boost)).

Then you have to transmute that into an alchemists robe, which takes 5 SPB (Special Purchase Bond) for a 50% chance of sucess - you may want to use a book of urebos to make it 100%.

Finally you have to transmute thart into the alchemist robe EX, which requires another 5 SPB for a 50% chance.

So you need at least 10 SPB to make it and SPB are UWC items AND the base item is VERY hard to make.

IMHO all transmutation alchemy items should be unplunderable since they require UWC items to make.

IIRC there are also EX items where the base item is unplunderable, but the EX item isnt - makes no sense to me.

lefox271 · September 2018

@YinYangSparty you've probably never heard of 'schadenfreude'. It's not only about acting dumb, it's also about being ignorant.

VictoriasSecret · September 2018

If you don't use tribute goods you don't really have a right to complain about being plundered.

And if you can afford nice items like that robe you can afford tribute goods.

Culvern · September 2018

@cpc I don't recall him saying he was 'farmed' as you like to call it.

Overall I hate to see anyone leave the game.
I have quite a few high end items that I would hate to lose if I were plundered. That is why I use a strong box or vault for those.
This situation is like hearing that someone lost a MGHP cannon because he let the duration run out and it broke.the whole situation is totally avoidable and he was careless.
The game is meant to have risks and this one was easily avoided which he CHOSE not to be.

If it were me that plundered it. I would offer it back at a discount, but seeing as these VERY rare plunderings are the only way a pirate makes money from piracy it's hard to make the discount to much.

CrzyPsycoChick · September 2018

@culvern

I know he wasn't farmed because we pushed back and WON against those BS farm the trader rules. That wasn't the point I was making the point I was making was look how this guy quit over losing his robe to plunder now imagine IF they pursued the unlimited farming rules how much worse it would have been and how many MORE people would have quit. My point of bringing it up was that pirates don't mention THIS effect of their actions which is why we took great offense to being told we were over reacting to the farming rules trial. We were trying to save players and I just feel the pirates that kept saying omg you're over reacting didn't give a damn about preserving players and only was only interested in getting a few extra plunders...it was as if they cared more about a few more pirate hits than the overall longevity of the game.

This guy quitting should be a reminder to you pirates that there are PEOPLE behind those ships and instead of stroking your e cocks at plundering people remember your actions can directly effect the game in the long run

The one good thing about the farm the traders trial was it exposed a lot of people who were willing to put their selfish desires of plunder ABOVE keeping more players in the game...

Ps. If u steal something really valuable like that try to sell it back ya know have a heart.. But not too much you're still pirates gotta teach me a lesson but not a lesson to the point you make someone quit.

Culvern · September 2018

I myself have lost hard earned items to pirates in the past. Crazy, but I still play.
I am always aware that pirating someone has a negative affect on that individual and the game.
So its a shame that this individual has decided to quit because something has not gone his way.
He will find life very disappointing and troublesome.

I also find it a shame that pirates are the only ones that have to accept responsibility for actions.
I personally know of dozens and dozens of newer players that quit due to the greed of trader using salts in fleets. They all felt there was no way they ever compete and quit.
Time to accept your role in the poor population.

But let me guess, it is in no way any traders fault for anything ever?
The game has done everything to cater to the trader for the past 5 years or so. One thing does not go their way and the rage begins immediately.

The game is getting less and less fun to play for me. If I was not addicted I would have quit as well by now. Mostly due to the personality the population has now.
No one is happy it seems. I can feel it.

Culvern · September 2018

Alts not salts.

lowbridge · September 2018

How about an icon that indicates whether an item can be plundered? Something akin to the un-tradeable icon? At least everyone would know what can and cannot be plundered. Each player can then knowingly and willingly determine what levels of risk they are prepared to accept.

Culvern · September 2018

Great idea for a solution to the issue Lowbridge.

lefox271 · September 2018

I am reluctantly coming to the conclusion UWO is nearing the end of its life. It just seems the different roles in game are no longer compatible.

@Culvern if you want to talk inflation then think about equipment inflation. I was turned over today by 2 pirates with 80+ maritime levels. They were in massive row boats which moved like speed boats and turned quicker than jet skis.

To use your own argument about Nanban spammers, for me competing with that level of ship and maritime performance is "unattainable". I am never going to be able to defend myself and the gap is just growing wider.

I can understand your frustration if it is anything like the way I feel about such ridiculous ship and maritime abilities.

Everything in the game is becoming distorted because inflation is in everything.

@CPC I think you hit it right when you spoke of "dick stroking" plunderers. How else could you describe bullys stealing ice cream from children?

Maritime is as unbalanced as trading.

CrzyPsycoChick · September 2018

@culvern

Just want to clear up a few things

You're right I can't name all the people who came in world chat or the forums screaming they are quitting because of alts... No wait I really can't name anyone but I have seen it happen over piracy.

Now this argument trader alts are making new players quit because they can't compete I think you are REACHING BIG TIME because if that's the case what about all the maritimers who have G6 God modded ships with all cash parts who spent real cash on the game? Are they discouraging too? Or the people selling tons of cash shop items for billions also discouraging to newbies?

Listen you hate alts I get it but EVERY player is permitted to use them if you CHOOSE not to how pray tell is that a traders fault? That's SOLELY an individuals CHOICE now whether you feel that's fair then do like we did and complain to the publisher I doubt they'll listen because its a moral problem rather than an actual problem that only a handful of people have moral issues with like I said you all can use an alt if you wish.

It's like you working for a delivery truck business and the boss says here's three trucks to make deliveries and says find 2 extra workers to help you, you say no I only want one because it's more fair he says fine suit yourself. Then you get mad at the other delivery truck drivers using the 3 trucks with for making more deliveries than you and you fall behind. Do you not see how illogical that is?

While I agree we all must do better to keep players yes traders included like the scamming and trying to lowball players on prices but the stuff you're complaining about specifically are a publisher problem not a trader problem. The policy was never pirates vs traders it was a harmful policy vs the future longevity of the game...trader maritime and adventure included...

Culvern · September 2018

I guess if I cannot complain about those that use alts since the server allows it, then the same argument has to be made for plunder. No one should ever complain about getting plundered ever again. It is allow by the publisher so it does not have any affect on the game some as alts.
Makes sense right?

I see not a single trader admitting that their actions have consequences. Allowed actions or not. Just like pirates.
I accept that alts are allowed. When will you under that alts have consequences too? They do. There is absolutely no doubt in anyone's mind except those that do their best to believe otherwise against logic.

Nanseijogaisto · September 2018

List of plunderable and non-plunderable items

https://uwo.papayaplay.com/uwo.do?tp=news.view&postid=1505

CrzyPsycoChick · September 2018

@culvern

Alts have consequences… for people who dont use them or course lol. Like I said its your choice to be obsoleted by people using alts and thats your problem lol its a simple fix either make a ticket and complain about it or the best solution make an alt yourself. With plunder trial the majority opposed it ill say 65 to 75% hated it but with alts its very different most like the advantages alts bring and no skill or wage gap because everyone can use them.

I can understand if the rule was 1 character and there were people using alts then Id agree but since you ALL can use alts but choose not to youre not winning any sympathy from about 95% of the rest of the community either who use them and love them. No offense or disrespect intended but nobody is affected by it except you and I feel like youre just trying to create a non existent problem just to pin something on traders. Sorry hun hate to break it to you but when it comes to alts…

dsmack1 · October 2018

Alts are needed in the game for simple things like storage and the fact that there are number of skill limits on characters, and if you wish to experience more of the game you will need an alt. People need to be able to log in alts at the same time as main for trading items and crap and bazaars. I take 1 alt on my trading journeys and none of them have clermonts

If the offer was made that to take away plunder we had to loose the ability to sail with our alts I'd take that trade in a heart beat. I agree with both sides. Sailing alts are ruining the economy and plunder is scaring away the new people. While we might need to log in multiple characters in cities (and some will argue we don't even need that, a few only play with one character ever) there is no real argument for "needing" more then 1 character sailing.

Heck lets compromise even more ...make single sailing players unplunderable and grouped players plunderable. (oh i can only imagine the arguments that would start, i'm not being serious there please don't lynch me but it would fix a lot of problems)

Byrdman

Culvern · October 2018

Like I have always said, the use of alts is fine for most things. As extra inventory and skills I does not affect the game. As for using them to bring back an extra 9000 nanban good every 1 1/2 hours....... that is just greed. It DOES affect the economy absolutely. It DOES hurt the game population. The game was not designed for it. The Host allows it because they make more money.
The game designers did not create a game to require multiple sessions and multiple computers to play. No game ever has. It IS a "gaming the system' tactic.

"Everyone is doing it so it must be ok" is quite frankly one of the most foolish justifications I may ever have heard.

@cpc You nonstop demanded pirates to claim responsibility for item plunder and 'farming', but you have yet to claim responsibility for any of your actions that negatively impact the game.
Own who you are and what you do.....

CrzyPsycoChick · October 2018

@culvern

I never said traders don't do bad things to discourage players I stated them above ie. price gouging, predatory selling etc.. but I'm just saying the thing YOURE talking about isn't one of them because every player trader adv maritime and pirate ALL use alts to get richer 95% of Maris use alts. Alts are not a trader specific quality is my point that's why nobody cares and thats why you don't see Papaya rushing to try out an alt less trial because too many players pirate and maritime included use them. Pirates: STOP destroying the game with your alts traders!...(pirate then proceeds to login spotter alt) lmao.

I asked pirates who will take personal responsibility for any negative effects of piracy farming rules to show that even pirates didn't think it was a good idea and as I proved ONLY 1 SINGLE PIRATE was willing to take personal responsibility if the trial if it caused negative effects on the game because they knew it would. ONE! out of all of y'all lmao. Y'all was scared to because you guys KNEW it was bad but deep down you wanted it, you liked it...

Ill speak directly take you for example, you went on record to say you did NOT agree with the rules and its effects but were busy saying it's not so bad, don't overreact, just try it,trader had too good for too long,oh its more fun...why defend it so vehemently if you "didn't agree" with it? Why go along with something you said yourself is bad? Why man??? How does that make sense?

It would be like a new rule that pirates can only take maximum 50k ducats and no trade goods which helps my company out tremendously then I say I disagree with the rules but then say...its not so bad, stop overreacting, oh come on you guys had it so good just roll with it...be honest wouldn't that tick you off?

Can't play both sides just because it benefits your class...

Done quiting

Comments