Dungeon hidden room discovery

technoxx · February 2019

Just want to know, is the East Asia hidden room discovery available?

I try china, japan, taiwan for few hour. not a single discovery.

wsp414 · February 2019

Yes they are available and they are rare discoveries so there is no option other than keep trying. Try thief research 1 which makes finding hidden rooms easier.

technoxx · February 2019

Is there a guide on which dungeon (upper, middle, lower) guide.

to kill npc or open trap or open box to enter hidden room or is there time limit?

After 3 days of trying, i totally give up. The dungeon discovery is the shitty i ever play for uncharted water. Papaya should at least put a guide on the dungeon even if the rate is just 5%. But 3 days, i play, it as good as 0%.

I did saw someone (in chinese) about leshan buddha upper floor, (DO NOT KILL NPC, only trap). I did that over 10 time, and i has never enter hidden room once.

wsp414 · February 2019

I am not an expert in dungeons, but I usually just kill all the NPCs as fast as possible. And as I mentioned, try getting thief job with boston research skill from building 2. Also, what is your dungeon exploration rate? at 500 and 1000 you will obtain titles that I believe also help you with finding hidden rooms easier.

technoxx · February 2019

2000 exploration.

I has clear lima, syracuse, rome, giza, luxor, simbel hidden room.

Only EA has the issue, as it seem it not available at all.

WalkerDePlank1 · February 2019

All the discoveries are available.

The hidden rooms in EA rely on your RELIC HUNTER title and now they made it easier with the boston research. Still there are tricks to all of them. Waiting times before you kill NPC's, tricks with torches, etc.

Read

New elements: Trick and hidden passage as well as the players comments

http://gvo.gamedb.info/wiki/?Dungeon#Kudara

technoxx · February 2019

think there 3, and the best possible title to equip is keeper of the secret (title appear when u discovered 10th hidden disc).

ability: increase chance to enter hidden room with no opponent (since discovery is alway no enemy).

I still trying, probably try another few more day, else i just give up all 4 EA dungeon (scam)

WalkerDePlank1 · February 2019

I just started doing my dungeon discoveries, and I remember in Gama it took me forever on many of them. I am currently chasing The Annals of Thutmose the 3rd in Luxor. 50 runs s far.

WalkerDePlank1 · February 2019

I searched many Japanese player blogs to get tips, you might want to do that as well.

technoxx · February 2019

Non EA guide (16 disc):

1. Syracuse (1 disc)

Mid floor

2. Rome (2 disc)

Upper floor

prefer do at 1st floor, kill npc, don't open chest (if no hidden, just exit and repeat)

Mid floor

at 4th floor, wait for 5min, kill npc, don't open chest

3.Lima (2 disc)

Mid floor

at 3rd floor, kill npc/clear trap, don't open chest
at 4th floor, kill npc/clear trap, don't open chest

4. Giza (4 disc)

Upper floor

prefer do at 1st floor, kill npc, don't open chest (if no hidden, just exit and repeat)

Mid floor

prefer do at 4th floor, kill npc, don't open chest (if no hidden, just exit and repeat)
at 4th floor, wait for 5min, kill npc, don't open chest

Upper floor

kill npc, don't open chest

5. Luxor (4 disc)

Mid floor

kill npc, open chest, u need to get a memo (high chance), normal way to enter has low rate

Lower floor

all 3, i stay at 9th floor, kill npc, open chest, get memo (2 chest, 3 chest and 5 chest room)

6. Simbel

Upper floor

clear trap, do not open chest

Mid floor

clear trap, do not open chest

Lower floor

kill npc, do not open chest

purplepirate · February 2019

@technoxx dungeon discoveries are generated randomly. There are 2 was you can trigger secret rooms.

1)maritime way, which you have to kill the npc (but i think you need to kill them in certain order to trigger passage). There have been times that i'll kill the npc's and i get secret rooms everytime but other times that i miss them which is why i believe it depends on the order (or possibly the time it takes to clear the floor). I try to leave the boss (highest lvl npc) for each floor as last one to kill.

2)adventure way, which you have to solve the puzzles or trigger the traps in a certain order from the burning braziers (yellow and blue ones are puzzles. red ones are traps). In the EA dungeons you have to match up the puzzle clues with their corresponding clue. Solving the adv way seems to open up secret doors pretty much every time. However, some dungeons you have to do a series of successful puzzle/trap/boss kills to trigger the secret doors but this mostly happens in dungeons that have many floor per lvl (example. you have to be successful in correct order on first and seconds floors to trigger secret passage on 3rd fl etc.).

I've tried this quite a few times now in many of the dungeons and there seems to be a pattern to it which works everytime. But the secret rooms seems to be geared to how find them (yellow,blue,red braziers or boss kill). When i just kill the npcs i tend to get the large npc fight rooms most times but when i solve the puzzles i get a lot more interesting rooms. Sometimes even just solving 1or2/3 puzzles will influence which rooms come available it seems but it might all just be random. This is from the non EA dungeons perspective.

As for EA dungeons, I've mostly done Azuchi and that was back on OGP. Doing the puzzles, I was successful a few times but since doing the puzzles takes more time i didn't really focus on it so much and just killed everything. I did get secret passages a few times there but can't remember how i generated them. Here on Maris i haven't done any of the EA dungeons yet except for Buddah and i haven't tried the adv way yet. I do know that EA discoveries are much harder to generate than other dungeons so keep at it and good luck.

:)

technoxx · February 2019

Perhaps u has misinterpreted my message.

The non EA guide, has been tested and working, hence i put as non EA.

EA wasn't include, cos i still finding what are the options which i still figuring out. What u say are azuchi etc, i been through, probably more than u (just to farm 1 helm map from boss). At point of EA dungeon, I not sure if there people who already got the disc (but atm, only empty talk)

Currently, what i has confirmed is, it is a 3 room discovery (assumption).

@ FSD upper floor, i has enter more than 50 time hidden rooms.

In this room, no matter how you clear, it will never give disc. So i can only assume, there 2 way to go to 3rd room

1. clear the trap, and open box to get memo

2. clear the trap, don't open box

WalkerDePlank1 · February 2019

6. Simbel

Mid floor

clear trap, do not open chest

This did not work for me, while I did get the hidden room, it was just the passage tunnel. So there has to be more to this.

technoxx · February 2019

i didn't has issue with Simbel dungeon, took me 2 hr to clear all 3 disc. Perhaps, the luck isn't on your side.

For FSD, after trying 100+ run at upper floor, still no discovery. Now attempt to clear FSD all open disc first and retry again (taking it as, discover all fsd disc as pre-requirement)

However, checking with both japan and taiwan. All pointed to same theory, it is a speed clear dungeon to enter REAL hidden room (under 65 sec)

WalkerDePlank1 · February 2019

Was there more to this? Timing perhaps for torches?

6. Simbel

Mid floor

clear trap, do not open chest

WalkerDePlank1 · February 2019

Well, seems this is the way to get the discovery, however, I can never seem to get it done within 1 min

Abu Simbel - Middle (4-8F) Clear the purple torch within 1 minute, open all five treasure chests after defeating all the pirates and get the hidden room.

I get it done, but never in one min. Need a team to get this done.

Even doing it your way never gets me the correct disco room.

WalkerDePlank1 · February 2019

Change to method was successful

Historical
Relic - Abu Simbel - Hidden Room - Middle (4-8F) Clear the pink torch within
1 minute, no boxes no killing NPC get the Large hidden room found:

King's
obituary

Historical
Relic - Abu Simbel Temple Deep (9-15F) hidden room - release pink torches within 5 mins - no
kills or boxes

Found:

Mural
of Ramesses II

For Statue of Cleopatra, I am using the same method

WalkerDePlank1 · February 2019

Abu Simbel

Correction: will do the same for Mural of Ramesses II

Luxor: Statue of Cleopatra

Historical
Relic - Luxor - Hidden Room - Deep (9-15F) Got it Floor 11 with 5 mins wait,
used smoke bombs activated all devices got memo - 3 box hidden room - Relic
Chaser Title

WalkerDePlank1 · February 2019

Found the way to get FSD discoveries

Do blue torches within 60 secs to get disco hidden room

WalkerDePlank1 · February 2019

FSD - Sho and Kaoliang Wine found

WalkerDePlank1 · February 2019

FSD found Hokutolite - middle noo requirement

WalkerDePlank1 · February 2019

All FSD Discovered

WalkerDePlank1 · March 2019

songsunri Ruins - Fast runs got me these

Stone Beasts

Paekche King Magatama

Golden Ring Earrings

Paekche King Crown Accessory

These two needs Blue torches finished in 60 seconds, still working on them

Ancient Copper Mirror

Hinoshi Flatiron

technoxx · March 2019

Can u explain in details?

I clear blue torch in 50sec, Still give me to next room (repeat loop) full of ultra aggressive NPC (go near, immediately engage, 100% impossible to clear torch)

technoxx · March 2019

Nvm, probably give up. Cos your post all look like copy, paste. No actual detail on flow and how it actually done.

FSD, do over 200 rounds. Every time, only lead me to 2box (3 torch room), clear within min, only infinite loop of blue torch and aggressive npc. Even if i clear under a min, still repeat in the next shit room.

WalkerDePlank1 · March 2019

Make sure you get a memo when you open boxes after you clear the blue torches, that guarantees the hidden room with the discovery

WalkerDePlank1 · March 2019

The memo to discovery room will give you a message when you click to enter hidden room

"something flashed at the end of the passage..."

technoxx · March 2019

After another 50 round, lost count of box open. Finally got the disc.

For mid and lower, u say no requirement.

I presume, kill under 1min, open box (get memo again) and pray it lead to treasure room?

Your Korea indicate lower and upper need clear the blue torch, also need open box and get memo?

WalkerDePlank1 · March 2019

Correct

WalkerDePlank1 · March 2019

I still need these if you want to fleet together

technoxx · March 2019

After 1 month of dungeon, i getting sick.

Out of 12 hidden discovery, only manage to get 1 (FSD).

I stop for now and do other adventuring instead.

Walker, hope u can complete the guide, not to help me, but many others too :D

Guide

FSD

Upper:

1. Go to non NPC room (2 box), clear torches under 1min (don't open box)

2. Clear blue torch under 1 min, and open box (get memo)

3. Hidden disc found

Mid:

1. Normal method to hidden room and kill all NPC under 1 min

2. Open box and get memo

3. Hidden disc found

Lower:

1. Normal method to hidden room and kill all NPC under 1 min

2. Open box and get memo

3. Hidden disc found

Sungsuri

Upper:

1. Go to non NPC room (4 box), clear torches under 1min (don't open box)

2. Clear blue torch under 1 min, and open box (get memo)

3. Hidden disc found

Mid:

1. Normal method to hidden room and kill all NPC under 1 min

2. Open box and get memo

3. Hidden disc found

Lower:

1. Go to non NPC room, clear torches under 1min (don't open box)

2. Clear blue torch under 1 min, and open box (get memo)

3. Hidden disc found

Well, not sure is this 2 correct flow cos i only clear FSD. Other 2 dungeon seem mystery to me too. Hope u can help us fill up the walk through

Dungeon hidden room discovery

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New elements: Trick and hidden passage as well as the players comments

http://gvo.gamedb.info/wiki/?Dungeon#Kudara