Returning Player Wonders

Desphiria · March 2019

Hello everyone, I plan to return to the game sometime soon, eventually, and I've seen a few things and was wondering if they were true. First, are the pirates pampered now and are there a bunch of multiboxers still or was that taken care of last year? Also, I heard that the schools aren't nice to newbies anymore as well and was wondering how? Is it because it's shortened and doesn't explain much anymore or is it because of the current players? I was also wondering, if I wanted to do trading class first or second, which job would be better to get after trade learner? I figured trade merchant perhaps, but I'm not very sure. Thank you guys for your time!

lefox271 · March 2019

Pirates and multiboxers were always much more of an issue in the forum than in-game. Pirates benefited from some rule changes but honestly it hasn't much impacted other players. In any case, as a new player neither issue will affect you until you've played a few hundred hours lol.

I've not tried the new school in Sagres. But new players in my company don't seem to have a problem with it. Experienced players who have tried it say it's less good then the old schools - but you would have to be an experienced player to know the difference. My advice would be to join an active company and seek advice if you hit a problem.

In regards to jobs, it all depends on what kind of trader you want to be, and what skills you will focus on. Go on line and look at the list of skills which come with each beginner job, then choose on the basis of which skills you want to develop. It's easy enough to get job change cards for the basic jobs so I guess the ideal is to plan to get several trading jobs to cover the range of skills you want to work on. Then in time you can work towards an intermediate job which includes more of these skills.

Good luck.

pekkauwer · March 2019

pirates-use alts as spy, when people pass them, login main and attack...

adventurer multiboxers-use 3-5 char hogging like one big drunkard family, put item inside their char,and overprice item in the market. The pamperedness spread when they given chance to map like mofo idiot and gain bonus skill xp in whatever they do,,,and

last one traders-same as adventurers-hogging 3-5 char claiming families etc, and increase price of market item...

one advice:

take a walk around seville and stay there at centre of the place....

no one playing 1 char anymore

no one do cooperation anymore

guild aka company? Dont trust them, the leader maybe have like 5-10 alts in 1 company

lefox271 · March 2019

... like I say. More of an issue in the forum than in the game.

purplepirate · March 2019

@pekkauwer The irony of all your complaints is that they are actually elements that 'for the most part' have always been a part of this game. I've seen your name in this game for quite a long time now. If there are things with this game that make your experience unpleasant but yet you continue to play, then this is the act of a Masochist and the problem is really with you not the game. But, let's look at 'your' issues closer...

pirates-use alts as spy, when people pass them, login main and attack...

Although this is true, the way you have presented this issue is pure missinformation. Nobody is pampered in this game since EVERYONE has the same access to the same gear/ships and skills as eachother. Truth be told, at any given time there's never more than a half dozen 'active' pirates sailing around the entire game. Chances are you will never even encounter a pirate but the game gives you ways to stop them. Alt spys/loggin attacking and port camping is a problem in this game but 'truth be told', there's only a couple pirates in this game that do that and they do it because they are actually skill-less players who can't hunt properly and are deathly afraid of bounty hunters because they can't fight. Most pirates don't do this and will openly admit that the reason they are pirates is for the thrill of the chase not for a easy kill. Also, there's nothing really worth plundering in the game since most use uwc gear. Noto/honor gain for sinking a ship is far more valuable to both pirates and bounty hunters than any plundered item is. If you have a decent attitude, most pirates will return any plunder back to you and even tow you to nearest port which proves this point. But if even this is a problem for you then the game gives you ways to prevent this, tributes, blue flags and bounty hunter escorts are 100% effective to stop/prevent any pirate attack. Tributes don't work in lawless waters but why would you sail into lawless waters in the first place? Lawless waters show heavy pirate activity, if you sail into them without blueflags/BH defence then that's your risk! This is common sense.

Multiboxers

The rules of the game are no more than 3 accounts logged in from a (household) ip/ips. Last spring, shortly after the server was launched, we had a problem with this but Papaya dealt with it though a series of bans. They even came onto the forums and made a public statement about it where they said that they can track multiple ip's from single households for those people who were using 5 char fleets. Multiboxing isn't a issue anymore as it only served the purpose to speed advance accounts early in the server. Since everyone is rich and developed now, NO BODY CARES anymore. New players are actually encouraged to use alts to speed up their development now! On OGP we were only allowed 2 char per account, but here we're allowed 3 for the purpose to speed develop our characters. This is common sense.

no one playing 1 char anymore /no one do cooperation anymore

Although people do use alts, nobody is forcing you to. Most players actually work together in groups now in the game, your statement is missinformation. Using multiple characters has absolutely NO EFFECT on anyone else's game. Most players in the game only play with 1 main character then have some secondary alts but so what if other use alts? This game has grown so large that (unless you are a long playing pro) you need alts for storage/crafting/skill set expansion. Even pro's who've been playing since NM days will say this (they need alts for sb parts and alchemy mats). Fact is that... if you limit play to 1 character, then you will develop slower than others, this is common sense. This game is soooo large and takes so long to build a character that it's up to the individual if the want quick or slow builds, but you can't complain about those that do when you look at how little time some people have now (they have school/work/family to deal with). Should those players be penalized for not having enough time irl to play the game? The 5ship fleets you see these days ARE different people playing and cooperating together. Just go to black sea these days and check out all the 'cooperative' 5 ship fleets of players working together to advance their lvl's doing the battle reports quest! Maybe you just need to make some friends.

Vesuvious · April 2019

I just came back myself... from gpotato through to ogPlanet days.

Sagres was imo... better then the old schools... everything for every nation in one spot.

Finished all 3 schools very quickly.

carlalex · April 2019

Sagres only better for people who have played before and only want school to be over asap.

pekkauwer · April 2019

...like i say, take a walk around seville and surrounding water and see the damage yourself

1-pirate return item back? hmm doubt so much, i learn it since NM day

2-ok tributes can be crafted bla bla bla... and also can be bought at mogul at bla bla bla

poor you sob,(i do apologise for saying this) but can discovery card be turn to ducats to buy tributes? NO

some player make a choice, become adventurer fully(not ruin explorer and hunter, the job itself more relied to maritime skill) why need to go learn maritime/trading skill all the way?

if you saw cooking on the list, amend that, its already been deleted... the most useless skill in Uncharted Visa Online

oh and if you stated

NO,YOU DONT NEED FUGGINGLY THE LANGUAGE

good luck with that,because an adventurer does need lot of language skill

so lets return to tribute/blue flag case

can be those be exchange by discovery card? *rolls eyes*

oh are you waiting some damsel in distress come helping and stated "nanban please"

Haha nanban is for purely trader skill player

Multiboxing isn't a issue anymore as it only served the purpose to speed advance accounts early in the server. Since everyone is rich and developed now, NO BODY CARES anymore.

who said nobody cares? i care, because multiboxer ruins everything, adventurer, maritime and trading

ok since you favor trader muchies

-price of the blue flag is now afaik is 800m-1bil

-price of shared storage 1/2 now is like 800-1bil

-price of strongbox now also 800m-1bil

discovery card exchange please, i trade 5 of 4*discovery for 10 blue flag *yes im being sarcastic level 999999 here"

-maritime, i did explain, + you even added, the impropriate motive as maritimer/pirate

you see, not all player who claims doing BR at black sea is honest...when player assume oh that guy gonna help me,arrive at black sea water dayyum, you lose ducats and item and all the faith for the game is none

-Do i need to explain adventurer? oh ok, since newbie need shed some "light", heres the light you want...

adventurers make most of money, by selling item they got...they'll claim oh i get it because of hardwork, while hogging 3-4 alts... so it become like this... 1 master tailoring tools map yield 3-5 mtt, can you kids tell me if 3-5 pigs flying from behind dig it? and 1 master tailoring tool is 5m, can you see the amount they got? hehehe

dont make me explain rare item from rare adventure quest :P

meh its 0504 am, gonna cook myself, but i hope this explain how "corrupt" is the multiboxers here in Uncharted Visa Online

CrzyPsycoChick · April 2019

Blue flag is a bil? What in the heck are you talking about? lol

Blue flag is 100mil back when I played and as low as 75mil right before my son was born.

The problem is you're supposed to balance your activities to get things like tribs and flags. Ie. Nanban or collecting things to sell to finance them like AOS, KIng Rich armor, MTT or even collecting useful stuff like lumber to sell and YES that an adventure skill.

If you CHOOSE to play a 100% purist adventure discovery game and not take a day or two to raise cash to finance tribs and flags then hey thats on you cant blame that on multiboxers

Even me I had to sea battle to get levels for my aide.. And i haaaaaate sea battling but we have to do things we dont like to reach our goals and if you dont want to then you have to pay and if you dont want to pay... Then you have to use your your skills to get by and we all had to do it and its always been that way.

Vesuvious · April 2019

Pekkauwer.... there is the easy way to play UWO (spend big in the cash shop) and there is the other way.

Either way you play, you cannot be *just* a merchant, or *just* an adventurer... there is and always has been cross-over between classes... and you cannot buy skill levels.

Those that pull their hair out over multibox nanbanners and resellers... imo... have their UWO priorities wrong....
Im back in UWO for the same reason i was in it 7+ years ago... 5o be the best i can be, at what i do in game.... not *the* best... dont give a fig about being *the* best/fastest/richest/scariest etc.

P.S. CPC o/ long time no see lub Suvvy

CrzyPsycoChick · April 2019

Suvvy!! Whats up

Sorry I jump on off the forums now I had a baby so not time to play like I used to :(

Vesuvious · April 2019

Very belated congrqtz CPC... i do remember you posting the news at the time.

I admit i got burnt out in UWO wich is why i left... but this time round im genuinely looking forward to the journey... however long that lasts.

pekkauwer · April 2019

@cpc, why dont you try asking/summoning aluchard here? :p

apologise, im suppose to not bring names, but... meh try ask him how much he is selling shared storage 1 :)

you'd be damn suprise ^^

purplepirate · April 2019

@pekkauwer interesting skill set but i'm surprised that you don't use aide's with different languages to supplement you skills instead of loading up on all the languages. You could free up alot of skill slots. Since you've gone pretty much FULL adventurer, when it comes to pirate encounters your skills proves why you should be using tribs/blue flags/ BH support. You obviously won't be able to defend yourself in any battle. I'm not saying this is a bad thing ( it's up to individual play style) but pirates wouldn't even be an issue if you used what the game provides for you to use to defend yourself.

-price of the blue flag is now afaik is 800m-1bil

Don't know where you are getting this price from, it must have been a joke on merchant chat if you ever saw someone asking that price. 24 hour no war pact costs 80-120m (when you buy bulk you can save some cost).

I don't see why in game costs are an issue for you anyways since IN YOUR OWN WORDS...

Do i need to explain adventurer? oh ok, since newbie need shed some "light", heres the light you want...adventurers make most of money, by selling item they got

So you should have more than enough ducets to cover any costs in game of blue flags or any other item/gear/ship you need since you play full adventurer! I don't know why you would even mention selling dis cards for items since you can't, totally pointless to bring up.

who said nobody cares? i care, because multiboxer ruins everything

Maybe the do and maybe the don't, it's really subjective. We've already tried to explain to you why alts are allowed in the game and the importance of them. It's up to the individual to if they want to use or not. Not using alts will slow down your game, but even without alts, just limiting yourself to one class will also limit your game and development. Nobody i complaining that you only use one class (again it's up to individual play style) but you need to understand that you have handicapped yourself and that's your choice. Others should not have to limit their play style just because you do, who are you to set the standards for the game? And if you think that EVERYONE should only use one class then this is really NOT the game for you, that's not what this game is about or designed to be like (the fact that you have some trade and maritime skills proves this).

-maritime, i did explain, + you even added, the impropriate motive as maritimer/pirate

you see, not all player who claims doing BR at black sea is honest...when player assume oh that guy gonna help me,arrive at black sea water dayyum, you lose ducats and item and all the faith for the game is none

The black sea isn't the only place to do battle reports quest. People use that one because it's the closest and fastest place to do them. Pirates know this so that's why they hang out there alot. You can do NFL waters one for the same experience (and less traffic of pirates). Again, i think the real problem here is that you need to make some friends.

Uncharted Waters is about 'diversity'. The more diverse you are the more you will be able to do. This is common sense. It's funny that all the people who come on these forums and complain about everything are usually the players with the least diverse characters and you wonder why you can't compete with anyone else lol. Your whole game revolves around ONLY 1/3 of what this game is all about!

pekkauwer · April 2019

So you should have more than enough ducets to cover any costs in game of blue flags or any other item/gear/ship you need since you play full adventurer! I don't know why you would even mention selling dis cards for items since you can't, totally pointless to bring up.

Pardon me sir/madam,but im not multiboxers

im not hogging 3-4 alts to sell full set vinland and sell to others

im not hogging 3-4 full to sell excalibur

and most importantly

IM NOT A MULTIBOXER

so im not rich as them :)

purplepirate · April 2019

almost forgot...

1-pirate return item back? hmm doubt so much, i learn it since NM day

Again, this depends on your attitude. I didn't say ALL pirates do this but more will than you give credit for.

pekkauwer · April 2019

oh to pirate name Incendiary, good luck you M.F...and i always remember our meeting at suez waters ^_^

purplepirate · April 2019

and most importantly

IM NOT A MULTIBOXER

so im not rich as them :)

Well, good on you then. I only use one main character myself but it certainly doesn't bother me when i see others that use more. Because i play smart i know exactly what to build towards and what gear is best suited for me to compete and as i result i've done better (wealth wise) than alot of those multiboxer players. And that's just primarily using 1 character (i use alts for storage and sb/alchemy but that's it, not for actual play).

pekkauwer · April 2019

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Vesuvious · April 2019

Pekk... he did just say "more then you give credit for"

You even quoted him.

Getting pirated in pirate infested waters in a pirate game.... how unique.

Mulitboxes grinding Vinland chain.... wow... thats r11 Theology r14 Geography, r15 Arch, r13Unlock, r13Search,r12Recognition.

Now all of those have plenty of equips to help out... but for a single player to do it solo is an impressive feat to say the least... its no wonder pple multibox to do it.

Stop worrying about what how other pple do it... you can always hold your head up high and say "i did it the legit way"... and nobody could be anything but impressed with that.... but the multiboxes would also not care one bit.... they did the chain for money... not acheivement.

pekkauwer · April 2019

@vesuvious then you agree that adventurer cant make money then?

if theres more item in market, people wont buy/jest the seller even more because the item isnt worth at all anymore...

you force us, adventurer to nanban which we dont even care at all

you force us, adventurer to become maritimer and hogging dungeons all the times(which adventurer job is actually maritimer job, etc hunter, ruin explorer)

purplepirate · April 2019

I think when i comes to money and wealth, then you really have to look at "what do i need money for?". Honestly, do you really need a dozen alt accounts packed of checks and have trillions of ducets? Then what? If you only play one class then you don't really need unlimited resources if you have everything you need to play your game (gear/ship wise). So what if other have hundreds of billions if you already have a great setup for your character?

In the entire time that maris has been running, i've never had more than 16b on all my characters at any one time because then i spend it. I focus on what i need and once i'm set i don't need to really be spending alot after that and my wealth isn't lying worthless in alt accounts. Like i said, if you play smart then the wealth of others doesn't really affect you. Having billions sitting around on alts when there's nothing left in the game to buy is silly.

CrzyPsycoChick · April 2019

@pekkauwer

<b>you force us, adventurer to nanban which we dont even care at all

you force us, adventurer to become maritimer and hogging dungeons all the times(which adventurer job is actually maritimer job, etc hunter, ruin explorer)</b>

1. We ALL had to play aspects of the game we didnt like to get our goals.

2. Dungeoning is decent money AND its an adventure job /profession and its NOT maritime. You can even do dungeons with your adventure skills to solve puzzles. Also poison trap beats every dungeon easily dont even need a weapon. Also how the heck does someine "hog" a dungeon?

3. No adventure and maritimers should not make more $ than the trader class. Thats breaks balance why should adventure make more $ or as much as the class centered around money?

4. As Purp said most adv I know didnt need bilkions upon billions...in fact adventure is the most self-reliant classes in game all you really need is vigor food. A LS is more than capable to satisfy your needs UNLESS you feel adventure needs a LLM.

5. Lastly not sure who Aluchard is sounds like a reseller not sure but 1 guy quoting a price isnt the price supply and demand does. SS for 800mil seem fine to me you're getting a cash item essentially for free thats why you have to WORK for it...it just seems you dont want to put in the work for it so you just picked alts and multi box as a scape goat. 2 days of nanban is enough to pay for it if thats too much work the problem is within you not multibox.

What so hard about this do adv get 5 AOS sell for 3mil each a steal will sell quick thats 15 mil enough to buy 20 tribs with 5 mil left over. Buy 10 po2 get wine sail to EA make 75mil. Cant be touched by pirates due to tribs.

OR

Sail to EA dungeon get full cargo sail back sell for 60mil.

purplepirate · April 2019

@CPC right now because of the 'first to lvl 87' event, AOS is selling for as much as 50m each. I don't go to seville to often but i think i even saw someone selling on merch chat for 100m! Good time to be farming them. :)

Vesuvious · April 2019

Yeah purp... ive seen a pile of aos on the market at jacked up prices.... pretty standard thing for price spikes tho.

@pekk .no... i dont agree that adventurers cant make money.... but if you are doing adventure class just to make money... why the hell are you doing adventure instead of trader?

"you force us, adventurer to become maritimer".... did i miss something?... there are a pile of adventure quests that have maritime skills as a Requirement.
"If it's in the game, it's in the game!"

purplepirate · April 2019

@CPC "adventure is the most self-reliant classes in the game all you really need is vigor food"

He said he deleted his cooking skill (said it was the most useless).

xD

Crimsonbunny · April 2019

cooking is useless lol inless u would rather spend a few hrs filling up x numbers of bank and invo space with 1399 of diff foods or u can just buy the +90 vig food from boxes or others and save a ton of time and get by for long time .

but it is wise to have more thin just say adv skills. being a pure class can get by just fine but u are missing out on $$ other wise.

but in the end it dont really matter to each there own 99% of the stuff in game is point less any more any ways .The pay to be better thin others has never been more strong as it is now a days .

And lest not joke around every one knows that alts play a huge roll and very much do effect others .The market is clear on that .in less u are blind or just st....... theres no way u cant see how they effect the game lol

like i said in a diff post u will also never get them out of the game so its a pointless topic really.

Dont get me wrong storage alts are fine lots of people are huge pack rats lol.

But the game in its self was never ment for 1 person to be making 3x the normal amount on everything lol and back under nm this would 100% get u banned .But this has become the norm now so it is what it is but dont sit here and say it has no effect on others or the game .

ignorance is bliss

pekkauwer · April 2019

@cpc what if i dont want to battle anymore? you said it, no adventurer need billions, but how many times i got scammed either in seville/merchant chat? and how those uwc cloth offer to me only 200m while people get like 1.4bil?

i watch merchant chat cpc, ill watch. And i remember someone sell wrought iron shin armor at least 2b and sold out of it.

and when i try to sell, i got offer 200m...hell thats why im so fking furious on certain multi who protects lowballers and when i got angry, simple solution is to kick me from fb group(guess which group)

its from uwc shop... ofc its expensive... but instead i got offer 200m, i have rights to be angry...

now from times to times, i check marketplace, the wrought iron shin armor turn to be a junk... all people sell below <=80m...so whose side lose? me ofc, i got to keep the item longer while people multibox keeping item inside their own character

@purplepirate-and how much those sell? Non-sell, i saw lowest is 8m at istanbul earlier and none was sell and again read above-i dont intend to level battle class anymore

@vesuvius-they are maritime class indeed, hunter, and ruin explorer... see for yourself... its combat class, not discoveries class

@crimsonbunny thats why hoster aka papaya play must be serious on punishing multi...

If player and gm dont take action,fraid this games have 0 new player

lastly thanks to you all m.f multiboxer

Vesuvious · April 2019

Pekk... you keep banging on about how much stuff is worth.. how much you got ripped off etc etc...

What are you playing UWO for... i mean... what is your goal in UWO... if its not to make ducats... then why does someone else making more ducats for the same thing bother you.

If you got ripped off once... shame on them.
If you got ripped off twice... shame on you.

If you know something is worth way more then what you sold it for... how the hell is that the games fault let alone the other player.... they got whats called... a bargain.

Adventurer has ALWAYS been a cross between Adv and Maritime in UWO... why does this shock you?

Gpotato, NM, ogp and now papaya ALL understand that players need to be more then one class in UWO... its one of the reasons they have ALL allowed more then one account..... so we can cover our bases.

You've got a right to be angry that someone tried to milk you for a bargain?.... no... you only have the right to be mad at yourself for saying yes.... if you didnt say yes... then wtf is your problem? No-one twists your arm to sell do they?... supply and demand dude.

CrzyPsycoChick · April 2019

@pekkauwer

I'm glad you brought up these points and Im going to break it down for you AND I'm going to give you and others reading some Awesome nuggets of wisdom.

You said: "what if i dont want to battle anymore?"

You see this is very important to the game balance. This game centers around how bad do you want it? If you dont want to battle then by all means dont battle do what makes you happy BUT if you need something related to battle that someone else did when you didn't then you cant hate on them for wanting it more than you. I built ships but people want R20 Ships do I want to grind a Ship builder Aide's battle to get +1 SB...HELL NO! But did I do it...Yes because the reward outweighed the annoyance. Now imagine if ANYTHING in this game could be acquired in ANY class then you wouldn't need jobs or classes as no class held advantages over the others. This gives players a need to specialize in different things not all be the SAME class. The game falls apart if there is no need to be other classes if any class can excel at anything. Ummmm in RPG terms imagine a fighter that is excellent at magic, fast like a thief, Heal any damage and craft all items .... So why be any of those other classes then? Right? Same as you wanting to be an adventurer and profit like a trader

You said: "and how those uwc cloth offer to me only 200m while people get like 1.4bil? I watch merchant chat cpc, ill watch. And i remember someone sell wrought iron shin armor at least 2b and sold out of it.

and when i try to sell, i got offer 200m...hell thats why im so f'ing furious on certain multi who protects lowballers and when i got angry, simple solution is to kick me from fb group(guess which group) Its from uwc shop... ofc its expensive... but instead i got offer 200m, i have rights to be angry..."

While YES you have a "right" to be angry at anything you want its your emotions. However Its completely foolish and pointless of you to get angry though. This is a problem with a lot of Adventurers and Maritimers (NOT ALL) that I found in the game is that they immediately write off Seville as a cesspool and its evil and to avoid it. While this is true there are many IMPORTANT aspects of this game that can only be learned in Seville from those low ballers and resellers Buy low sell high thats the point of the game and thats exactly what he did. Lets look at your Wrought Shin Armour for example. Now while someone is attempting to sell it 1.4bil that doesn't necessarily mean someone is buying it or if the price is still the same BUT more importantly WHY is someone trying to sell at that price?

Are they rare?

Are others selling it?

Does it appear in the Bottle?

Whats the Drop rate of the item?

When the last time it appeared in bottle?

How good is the item really?

How long have they been trying to sell it?

What have others paid for this item in the past?

Have I gotten a price check for the item first?

What is the reputation of the seller or people Price checking?

These are all things you must consider before purchasing or buying anything in this game and all this comes with practice buying and selling in seville. You didnt get a price check on the item and you rushed to sell it for 200mil when you should have just waited and got multiple price checks. Thats not the seller's fault or multibox thats a beginner's selling mistake and thats YOUR fault...and thats totally fine! Nobody starts out an expert it comes with experience you made a mistake so what just learn from it, but the first thing you have to do is stop blaming everyone else and just get in Seville and watch how sales go and see who is selling and for how long and GET PRICE CHECKS. The more you avoid Seville and not learn how to know the market the more people will take advantage of you.Nobody is forcing you to sell you can easily just hold onto your item and wait and do the research first.

To sum all this up you only WEAKEN yourself by focusing on only ONE aspect of the game. The experience you gain playing a maritime or a trader will greatly benefit you in adventure as you will know how they think what they want and how to sell. You choose to only play one toon AND on that 1 toon you choose to do only 1 thing adventure...You cant get mad at other people for experiencing more of the game and surpassing you. Blaming multi and blaming alts and blaming seville will NOT make you a better player but EDUCATING yourself in other gameplay styles will its up to you though but you cant hate others that are putting in the work. Imagine me blaming maritimers and multis for ME not gaining battle levels does that make sense to you??

My challenge to you be a different class for a month then go back to adventure and see just how much you improve...

theedgedemon · April 2019

oh man i feel so awkward agreeing with @CPC and @purplepirate after all this time...

@pekkauwer they have both answered rather well to your complains most of which i also consider exaggerated and biased at best, however i wanted to point out some things you repeat over and over and seems at least odd to me.

no friendly pirates, your attitude here in chat was harsh enough to get one post deleted for offensive comments, which more than explain why you have never found a decent pirate, i understand why as i have bad mouthed a few myself, but i've also fought dougie, killa, nellemus and a few others and we both parted without resentment,so try to treat others as you would like to be treated.
"ruin explorer its combat class", why? not only is it inside the adventure guild and requires adventure skills to unlock, it has 3 reading skills (one of which is expert) search and unlock, but it has not a single battle job skill, throwing and trap are adventure skills and Marines need to dabble in adventure for them not the inverse, it requires some battle level? true so does Folklorist, Thief, Adventure Mentor, Guerrilla, Ranger, Salvager, Hunter and Great Adventurer, i actually think land battle is actually more common to adventurers than to Maritime players.
why would any adventurer even consider selling discovery cards, the whole point of being adventurer is hoarding them!!!
your adventure skills are rather low for a full time Adventurer, and a little mismatched at that, the fishing discoveries only should have ranked your fishing to r12 if i am not mistaken, your aides should give you 3-6 languages themselves, you have observe which does not rank, and lack Rescue which no one should sail without, survival and marching, i would also suggest for adventurers: eradication and pathology both of which you can get as naturalist, and mines and evasion which are the prime skills for someone actually wanting to run away from battles.
any adventurer can get money out of easy to repeat discoveries and maps that are harder to find or do for non adventurers MTTs, MSTs, AoS and Seals to mention a few.

i've been for so long in the game i am starting to forget people i sailed with before and have less than 100m in the bank right now, i have however a better ship collection than i've ever had, have only paid about 50$ as my thanks for picking up a game i love, and enjoy my time with measure, but i guess finding something to like the game for is something everyone has to find for himself.

P.D: @Desphiria, welcome back, sorry we took your post for this.

the new school lacks the old theme park ride structure, there is a loose collection of quest from all schools levels and you can choose which ones you take and on which order depending on what you want to learn, you can also take more than one quest at a time, so its faster but relies more on your desire to learn than a set guide.

as a job trade merchant is easy to get now with NPC rescue cards, you can also change classes at whim without having to get the card again for jobs you already had once.

for meeting players new and old there is always a fleet sailing for Sea of Wonders now.

i think the game is better than it has been for years, but as i always say: "log in say hi take a look around and decide for yourself if you stay with us".

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