Complete reset confirmed :(

jest33 · October 2017

I thought this is the light we've been waiting for. I was wrong again.

wsp414 · October 2017

Plz reconsider papaya. UWO is not a game that will survive a complete wipe. People have spent years and years and thousands of hours on this game with nothing to show for it.

eesnAccept · October 2017

Since it seems Papaya did the same reset and boost gifts for La Tale, if Koei is doing the reset, it seems likely it is at Papaya's request.

The reset apparently is okay in the gaming world since nothing given in exchange for real money is a tangible asset. Aside from gaming no company would survive with a reset. Spending money for a product or service either has a contract or implied benefit.

But life moves on and UWO taught me lots of things and will be a wonderful memory of time well spent, right up to the end of September.

SenileGeezer · October 2017

Oh No . . . . mamacat, I will miss you most of all. I wish you all the best. I cannot do all this over again. I feel like I have been violated. The last 6 years of my life were stolen.

Adieu, monde cruel

Senile French Geezer

MarcosGodoy · October 2017

this is crazy, the game will be so unbalanced it won't even be funny. cash shop players in ROGs etc as batt said against the rest of us in mediocre FS ships. plunderers and full-time players can get ahead of the rest too, SB+1 back to 9bil+ as well as rare books 200mil+ too, who will have the cash to buy those? no-one will. every port will be under-developed now, good luck trying to use recipes etc that require development.

The piracy returns are nice, except deck battle will still be too relevant in PvP, should have been only ships with the skill assault deck can force deck battle.

The loss everyone is feeling now is astronomical, playerbase will decline so hard, and the game right now with a fresh start will need more players than ever to develop towns, grind production and SB skills for production.

Are you really going to spend real cash on a game where the entire playerbase has no cash to buy your un-wanted cash shop items?

I have mixed feelings, I know i can power levels and skills in areas where I can make massive profits and get ahead of many of the playerbase(do i want to after 7 years though for nothing). This will be incredibly un-balanced now between the full-time players and especially the real cash players.

Another problem for me is if this reset happens now, what's to say it won't happen again when UWO changes hands once again (and it will because this game isn't worth it for papaya to keep running now, game will be too quiet) that time spent playing UWO through papaya will once again be for nothing with another reset due to some problem or another.

SenileGeezer · October 2017

Mamacat, I will miss you most of all. I wish you all the best, and I shall never forget you. How can I start over after 6 years, becoming a Priest? I feel violated, I feel like a victim. All that work, just to be flushed down the French Crapper, with no water to clean my a . . .

This is goodbye. Noobs, don't work too har, or spend money, because it will soon be all gone. I cannot start over, I will not start over. This is too much to bear.

Adieu, monde cruel

Senile French Geezer

masonweaver · October 2017

What

The

Fudge

I've been playing the game since beta with NM. Thousands of dollars, thousands of hours pumped into the game over the years. I will not start over.

I hope you take a huge loss on this game, papaya.

yeestar74 · October 2017

This was a complete shock, and a game ender for many. but having gone through the motion of emotions, I can kind of see a light at the end of the tunnel. for me personally I have not been active for a long time, I felt the game had taken on a shape I was no longer comfortable with. The unhealthy drive for NC(yeah I am old)/Astro ships and the devastating changes in SB, with grading eating billions and grading failures leaving you depressed for a month :). but if I could choose, I would probably want to keep my hundreds of ships and billions of coins. Now its in the blue if I still have the love for this game I once posessed. I have had real friendships here. I know that sounds slightly creepy, but spending days, weeks, years with people online grinding and hanging out does actually forge some real bonds. I choose to not explode, though I have every right(or so it feels), considering the hours, the real money, the insane grinding it took. I hope many will return in due time, there was a great spirit of community, and the hours of gathering and making of delivery items with the Friendbuilders family was an amazing experience. I will at least give it a try, to decide and feel it out. who knows, it might be falling in love all over again.

-Godspeed and fair winds.

ign Yeestar

fields1234 · October 2017

Well what a big kick in the teeth this was, I and I think many other vets did not expect this, but how would the game even be playable with all the cities and towns developments also reset? No one going to invest in towns as no one will have money to spare, at least on release day 7 or so years ago we were confined to EU then each patch unlocked oither areas to invest to where we got to with OGP.

I guess I will be back, but I will only pass through, I won't be staying.

Centex3kgt · October 2017

I keep hearing the words "money I've invested in this game", over and over on this forum. I guess people do not know the meaning of Invest. Here is a lesson:

Invest: verb; expend money with the expectation of achieving a profit or material result by putting it into financial schemes, shares, or property, or by using it to develop a commercial venture.

This is a game, you are SPENDING money, not INVESTING it....

testbed1311 · October 2017

https://koeitecmo.info/inquiry/kta/
tell koei about this mess.

testbed1311 · October 2017

talk to koei

contact them

frigatecheat · October 2017

https://koeitecmo.info/inquiry/kta/

contact koei

frigatecheat · October 2017

my ticket to koei

https://uwo.papayaplay.com/uwo/?

The
UWO Team will be using the relaunch through Papaya Play as an
opportunity to revamp many aspects of PvP Battles, including plundered
items and Deck Battle frequency, plus a number of other system
rebalances. Due to the technical nature of the relaunch, however, all
existing player progress and items from OGP will unfortunately be lost,
and the game world/economy will undergo a complete reset.

In
order to show appreciation for prior player progress and achievements,
the UWO Team is offering all legacy OGP players exclusive tiered
Founders Rewards, containing various boosts, support items, and
Shipbuilding parts, to help launch the next chapter of high seas
adventures. All players who complete the Transfer Service will receive
their Founders Rewards upon logging in to UWO for the first time when
the game relaunches on October 18th, 2017 (PDT). To complete the
Transfer Service, simply follow the steps linked above to connect your
OGP ID to Papaya Play.

More
details about the Founders Rewards will be made available soon. Stay up
to date with the UWO Community on the Official Papaya Play Forum and
Facebook page!

congrats on killing uncharted waters online.

i will be getting other users to contact you aswell.

A SERVER WHIPE IS A REALY BAD IDEA.

TELL PAPAYA PLAY THIS AND WORK WITH THEM!!!!

I KNOW FOLKS WHO ARE QUITTING OVER THIS.

the caps dont express it loudly enough.

i will be loosing almost 7 years of game play to this.

im tempted to dispute all recent paypal charges also this is f'ing worng guys!!

also i dont give a damn if you f'ing respond to this message you already f'ed up big time!

bababooey · October 2017

guys it was either this or no game so wtf. why you complain?

testbed1311 · October 2017

you messed up in a game killing way.

all i can say is wow!

Imskel · October 2017

After the 1st reset i did not care much for I had just started and did not have any astro ships or that high a level, this 2nd one how ever is totally different, I am not doing it a 3rd time, this is total BS a simple boost or gear is not going to pay me all the time and astros I put into the game just to be back to level 1 again.

nice way to kill a game Papaya play... way to make friends.

FrozenRuby · October 2017

@Everyone

quoting Centex3kgt

'I guess I have a different outlook than most people nowadays.

1. If a game is seen as "work", then it is not an entertaining endeavor and should be abandoned by that person anyway.

2. Monies and time spent to further someone in a GAME should be viewed as well spent and rewarding in their own light. In my opinion, once that money and that time has been spent and enjoyed, to claim that you are being cheated or otherwise wronged by a game being restarted by a NEW HOST, or even losing support like so many MMO's have in the past, is a waste of time and effort.

We do not know the real reasons that OGP decided to end support for the game and it is now going to be run by Papaya, and probably never will. On the other hand, we can make some educated guesses. Here are a couple feasible reasons:

a. It was no longer profitable for OGP. In which case, Papaya resetting the game and starting over is a smart decision, to try and bring in an influx of new players and stop the losing trend.

b. Server issues and/or coding problems were outpacing support. In which case a full wipe and reset can give the new support team a chance to "work from the ground up" and fix these issues.'

understand from others perspective this game u have spent money on and enjoyed what u got out of it and the time u spent playing and then saying you have been cheated is just wrong u had fun u enjoyed what u got with ur money u enjoyed the time u spent, so ur unsatisfied that someone decided to do something in the interest of their company and employee's and wipe the game data, and you feel cheated WHY???

you got what u payed for u got instant satisfaction and enjoyment and fun time spent. so how are u being cheated

JustToTalk · October 2017

I was confident that Papaya won't reset the game that I keep assuring everyone don't worry.. before the transfer that it won't be. I was so confident because if they want to reset the game, there is no need to go through OGP. There is no need to deal with OGP at all.

Papaya can just directly deal with Koei, get the partnership, start the server, and all they need to do, is to promote the game, probably pay a bit to make an advertisement in OGP site, inform us that Papaya is hosting a new uwo server. That's all.

Yes, they just need to advertise and promote. For a server wipe, there is no need for any kind of transfer at all, because this step is not necessary.

The reason is plain, obvious and simple... old players who spent years of effort... exchange to the few boosting items lol... -.-"zzz come on man... it is understood isn't it?

Just my 3 cents okay?

The way of doing business like this, is not quite... how to say, a bit mistaken? I know I can't say that, I am in no position in suggesting how a game company run their business. Not quite correct in the steps and procedure, perhaps.

If you intend to start a new server, oh come on man, then just tell OGP players that you want to start a new server. How so? Because of the phrase you are using man. The impression you are giving. "Start a new server", this is a positive message.

But the case is you have been keep promoting that it is a "transferring", but now you inform the players at the last minute that it is a server wipe. A server wipe is a negative message, and a server wipe is not a transfer. Everyone starts fresh with a new account, what is there to be transferred? There is nothing to be transferred at all lol

Dear Papaya sorry to tell you this man, you took the wrong advise, from the wrong player. This is what I feel. The players who promote pirates, are bias from their own way. You need to take advise from all others but not only a few persons.

Uwo is an old game yet no games can copy its pattern entirely because the knowledge involved is too vast. Uwo is like an encyclopedia game that even a player played several years, he still needs to ask other players about other areas he is not familiar with. To master and to be knowledgeable in all aspects in Uwo is highly not possible. Adventure has their own experience, Nanbaners has theirs own secrets, ShipBuilders have their own tricks, Dungeoners has their own ways, Maritimer has their own fun, Pirates, etc etc.

All these, are not rushable. Uwo is not a grinding game, the durability of the gameplay is almost unlimited. It is not the casual web games where they keep runs new server over and over, so players can rush things from the start and reach to the end in a few weeks. Uwo is not like that man lol, it is far away from that. You can't rush things in Uwo because the knowledge involved is just too vast, that if you rush, you might be doing mistake and end up you do the wrong thing or take the longest way to grind because you didn't study the game well.

The durability of the gameplay of uwo is almost unlimited lol, we old uwo players all know this very well, so when we play the game, we don't rush it. If you don't believe me you can just ask all other uwo players in all around the world. Uwo is the kind of game that you understand the game better than you rush it, that's the kind of game it is. What makes you think why uwo an old game but still exist after over 10 years? lol...

Its an old game and you plan to restart it lol... its not a grinding game and you expect to rush it... you took advise from the wrong person man, there are players here who played in netmarble, gpotatoe, ogp, the taiwan, china or even the japan server before, I am not old enough, they are lol. They old players are the one who told me a lot of things about uwo.

Well lol..... since you already decided for a restart, I guess there is nothing much I can say. I still love this game, I would probably continue to play it, not sure, depends, but as a piece of information I can offer is:

Don't survey how Uwo can earn, just survey how they failed in the past. The game itself has no problem to profit you know, it is the management that is.

Dude sorry to say lol, this time you really took the wrong advise from the wrong person lol

Donny71 · October 2017

i like lots of players have spent money to get some items / ships from bottles. yeah a server wipe would suck i have played this game over 4 years. i went nuts in the last week trying to figure out what to keep what to toss and how to pack the items on my 2 toons i play with. i even bought 2 bottle ships just months before OGP gave us the great news. to start over seems like i wasted the last 4+ years playing this game

but i will say this game was dying on OGP wasn't hardly any new players and the ones there was would quit after a short time. this community is one of the best if not the best in gaming so many helped the new players gave advice etc etc hopefully being on a new server will bring lots of new players and the returning old school ones can still give advice and help them learn the game so our core players grow.

last thing i will say its a game you either play it because you love it or to have fun. some of us ( myself included ) had gotten lazy and mostly sat online in Seville or some other port chatting away and not even playing the game like we done when we first started. starting over will suck but not having this game around would suck even more

sarchives · October 2017

There was no "first" server reset. This is the first reset in the history of UWO. Development of everything and anything will be zero. That means no India, no EA, nothing. Unless you were involved in the beta you don't understand how massive a blunder this is.

ZimXero · October 2017

@Centx3kgt who said "I keep hearing people talk about their "hard work", and wanting to be "compensated" for the money they spent on a game.....

I guess I have a different outlook than most people nowadays.
1. If a game is seen as "work", then it is not an entertaining endeavor and should be abandoned by that person anyway.

2. Monies and time spent to further someone in a GAME should be viewed as well spent and rewarding in their own light. In my opinion, once that money and that time has been spent and enjoyed, to claim that you are being cheated or otherwise wronged by a game being restarted by a NEW HOST, or even losing support like so many MMO's have in the past, is a waste of time and effort.

We do not know the real reasons that OGP decided to end support for the game and it is now going to be run by Papaya, and probably never will. On the other hand, we can make some educated guesses. Here are a couple feasible reasons:

a. It was no longer profitable for OGP. In which case, Papaya resetting the game and starting over is a smart decision, to try and bring in an influx of new players and stop the losing trend.

b. Server issues and/or coding problems were outpacing support. In which case a full wipe and reset can give the new support team a chance to "work from the ground up" and fix these issues."

regarding B) this is the most promising opportunity, however, we have no idea if they will use or squander it.

regarding A) they will make less money and their player base will be about 60% of its present level.

1 & 2) You are making euphamisms and applying them to something that is entirely different. UWO is not like a "game". It is a full time hobby for most of us. By comparison, imagine you were an avid monopoly player... but everytime you got to the middle of the game... Hasboro confiscated your board and said... buy a new one now. You would tire of playing quickly. My point is that our characters in UWO... were part of the game. If a thousand people together to make a structure.. and spent millions of their own dollars on it and millions of hours of volunteer labor, then the land sold to a new owner without warning. The new owner we welcome everyone to build a new structure after we destroy the old one. They claim they are destroying the old one based on convenience and out of hope that the new one might be better than the old one day. Thats similar to where we are.

Centex3kgt · October 2017

@ZimZero

You are right, as far as that goes. BUT the point is:

1. Your monopoly analogy: There is no "everytime you got to the middle of the game... Hasboro confiscated your board and said...buy a new one now." This has NOT happened before, and we have no indication that they will do it a second time. So, there is nothing to tire of, as this new company has reset ONE time.

2. Building a game economy is not like building a structure on a piece of land. As for spending "Millions of their own dollars on it and millions of hours of volunteer labor", the money was spent to further themselves in a game, and so was the hours of "volunteer labor".

Would you have preferred if NO ONE was willing to pick it up after the mess OGP made of the game? That was a very real possibility. This game has aged out compared to many others available. Yes, it is unique, and MY PERSONAL FAVORITE online game, but being realistic, it could have easily been just shut down.

We now have a company wanting to take it to the next level, and support the game that we all love. We owe them the benefit of the doubt, that they will make something great. If they fail, that is when we should descend on them with righteous anger, not before.

WesDoobner · October 2017

sarchives - how do you know everything will be reset to zero, no EA or India? How will they continue the Age of Revolution expansion without all that stuff already being in place?

crazyhunter2003 · October 2017

we know nothing of what will or will not be

Watchkeeper · October 2017

WesDoobner - good question. There seems to be a general assumption that there will be no EA, India etc. The only pointer in that direction from PP that I can find is the highlight below:

The UWO Team will be using the relaunch through Papaya Play as an opportunity to revamp many aspects of PvP Battles, including plundered items and Deck Battle frequency, plus a number of other system rebalances. Due to the technical nature of the relaunch, however, all existing player progress and items from OGP will unfortunately be lost, and the game world/economy will undergo a complete reset.

CorbynDallas · October 2017

There wasn't a perfect answer to fixing UWO to make it profitable and not make anyone upset. Haven't found a game company yet that has been able to do it all perfectly.

I wasn't for the server wipe.

I saw the writing on the wall though and tried to prepare everyone in our Company for what I perceived based on the facts at hand. It looked like a generalized bunch of statements leading up to a server wipe.

Been through it all before with other games and other game companies.

The plain fact is that there is NO OTHER game like Uncharted Waters Online. Even with its outdated graphics, old game engine, and weak on land fighting actions, it's still the best seafairing game of its kind because there isn't another game of this exact kind available. If there was we'd all be playing it.

There's going to be a lot of rage quitting without a doubt. There will also be a lot of rage quitters returning within a few weeks to months having wasted that time they could have already been rebuilding.

And there will be a lot of new players.

b15h09 · October 2017

Sucking it up and moving on. UWO had a good run.

b15h09 · October 2017

Yeah.. not a dime, not even sure if time. Those founder rewards better be something else.

errolcr1 · October 2017

I may still play should there be a reset ..however I definitely won't continue putting rl cash money into the game under those circumstances...considering thousands would have been lost due to reset.

Complete reset confirmed :(

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