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5 Man multi fleets please Enforce this rule.

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  • TwitchalotTwitchalot Posts: 263Member Intermediate
    As long as there are no more than 3 accounts running from the same IP, there is no violation. 'Nuff said.
    aldrizneriss2peloisan
    IGN: Henrique_dePortugal, formerly CullumStraun - aka O Tigro Branco(The White Tiger)
    - Director of new_world_company
    Alt: Christopher_de_Haro, formerly William_Adams - temporary Deputy Director of new_world_company

    Pay It Forward - It's what we do
  • aldrizneriss2aldrizneriss2 Posts: 84Member Beginner
    @Twitchalot 

    so basically you're saying for those Household who has 3 players! should only have 3 ACCOUNTS PERIOD?! 

    and THAT'S FAIR TO YOU? THAT IS BALANCE? WHAT ABOUT THE FREEDOM TO CHOOSE THIS GOES ADV THIS GOES MERC THIS GOES MARI.. 

    LOL .. WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU WHEN GOD GAVE INTELLEGENCE TO MANKIND??? WERE YOU AT THE TOILET??

    THE GAME PROMOTES ENDLESS ADVENTURES AND YOU WANT LIMIT OTHER PLAYERS FROM DOING AS MUCH AS THEY CAN AND ENJOY THE GAME?

    AND YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE BEING REASONABLE?? 

     THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN BE SUGGESTED THAT WOULD NOT LIMIT PLAYERS TO ENJOY THE GAME AS THEY SEE FIT.. 
    -------------------------------

    SUGGESTION:

    ONE THING I SEE COULD STOP ABUSE IS PUTTING A DURATION ON SHIPS WHICH THEY CAN USE UWC OR (SHIPYARD TO LESSEN DUCATS ALSO INGAME) TO REACTIVATE AND CALL IT OVERHAUL! THAT WILL DEPEND ON WHAT KIND OF SHIP AND HOW MUCH IT WILL COST FOR AN OVERHAUL ..

     THIS IS JUST A SUGGESTION AND WHAT I THINK COULD STOP ABUSE.. RATHER THAN LIMITING PLAYERS OF THEIR GAME!! WHEN THE GAME PROMOTES THAT YOU CAN DO ENDLESS THINGS HERE.


  • TwitchalotTwitchalot Posts: 263Member Intermediate
    Oh, I'm actually with you on that one aldriznerris2, I was just saying that 3 characters per IP is the rule to those who are against multiple characters by one player, as I myself do. In fact, my 2 oldest sons used to play UWO and it got hard to do when all 3 of us played at the same time, all of us being able to log only one character at a time. Yes, I agree, limiting us to 3 characters per IP is not good, as I see it, and do completely understand your point of view there.
    IGN: Henrique_dePortugal, formerly CullumStraun - aka O Tigro Branco(The White Tiger)
    - Director of new_world_company
    Alt: Christopher_de_Haro, formerly William_Adams - temporary Deputy Director of new_world_company

    Pay It Forward - It's what we do
  • aldrizneriss2aldrizneriss2 Posts: 84Member Beginner
    @Twitchalot

    my apologies man.. 

    its just that if there is a 3 person per IP rule.. that really sucks. for the Game actually promotes endless adventures and yet that rule limits it.

    people should stop complaining and start suggesting bright ideas that wont have to limit each others gaming happiness.

     like the one i suggested.. with proper studies that can help the economy in UWO...
  • KatanauwoKatanauwo Posts: 309Member Intermediate
    Lots of people have been banned, lol.

    The beginning of the end.
    peloisan
  • CulvernCulvern Posts: 646Member Intermediate
    I does suck for families or roommates or whatever the multiple people from an IP situation is.
    However for every situation like that there will be 100x as many abusers. It's a shame you can't count on players to not take advantage.
    Unfortunately if they had no limit you would see people with 50 alts in a fleet.
    What is the solution? I have no idea. Too bad that so many feel the need to find ways around the rules and cheat.
    This is obviously an issue that many feel strongly about. And I do not believe anyone is against a family playing together, most are against the abuse of alts.
    I doubt anyone has a problem with a storage alt or alt for skills even. It those that need to have the alts there just for nanban runs (it is no doubt an attempt to abuse the rules).

    I hope we cam all someday find the correct solution.
    Twitchalotpeloisan
  • aldrizneriss2aldrizneriss2 Posts: 84Member Beginner
    they should make nanban more difficult.. because everything else is more difficult than nanban.. and mainly this is the cause of abuse..
    Culvernpeloisan
  • CulvernCulvern Posts: 646Member Intermediate
    I totally agree with that.
  • HuseyinGaziHuseyinGazi Posts: 158Member Trainee
    They've put the red message regarding this for a while, this has been mentioned to them :) It may be not noticable, but they're already dealing with them. I can imagine the frustation behind how many abuse this, but don't let this ruin your own fun, because it does NOT have direct influence to you. If they're once caught, they lost everything no matter how much abuse they did.

    As Twitch stated not all of them may be multi... In GAMA I was even accussed for just cause I've 5 fleets in nanban (myself, Disi and three others were toons of my co-mate). I would just report them through SS and let Papaya deal with them than making a drama here. :x

    It may sometimes take a while as their team isn't big yet, but I am sure in the future these actions can be done faster. :) 

    What I personally do after reporting them is when I encounter them in hostile waters then I seek for a pirate who is near me and I tell him/her their location so they can plunder them (devil smile). Sometimes pirates can act as an police :B

    Anyway, I hope my statement is clear about this and my hopes are also this will be faster dealt with.

    Kind Regards,

    [CA]Huseyin_Gazi
    peloisan
    IGN: [CA]Huseyin_Gazi
    Dedicated Adventurer and Maritimer
    Other toon: Disi_Aslan (trader, production, R20 SB'er and Director of OA)
    Osmanli_Aslanlar
  • CulvernCulvern Posts: 646Member Intermediate
    Thank goodness these pirates are always there to help!

    Three cheers for pirates! Rah rah rah!
    Twitchalotaceman39
  • TwitchalotTwitchalot Posts: 263Member Intermediate
    LMAO!!! Well. it depends on the 'rat in question, but, ok. :D

    IGN: Henrique_dePortugal, formerly CullumStraun - aka O Tigro Branco(The White Tiger)
    - Director of new_world_company
    Alt: Christopher_de_Haro, formerly William_Adams - temporary Deputy Director of new_world_company

    Pay It Forward - It's what we do
  • neoikaneoika Posts: 1Member Beginner
    I think following is issue here.

    Cancel following on the land.

    Limit following on the sea to 2 or 3 days and need to click follow again.

    If all the members on the fleet are true individuals.they will not be affected by the change.
    HelloAllLerxst
  • frankqpfrankqp Posts: 0Member Beginner
    I would suggest do not fleet more than 3 toons in one fleet try to avoid fleeting company members, friends and relatives even they've different IP address as you will get suspension if they screenshot you is now happen to us.
  • CulvernCulvern Posts: 646Member Intermediate
    In so many cases the alt abusers are VERY obvious.
    When 5 toons are all naked and are identical in looks and levels with names like: toon1 toon 2 toon3......
    They are all sitting next to each other in a bazaar with the same items at the same price.
    Does not take a seasoned detective.
    This is the type of activity that hurts the genuine players (those families and friends playing together ).
    Twitchalotpeloisan
  • HelloAllHelloAll Posts: 701Member Intermediate
    I think neoika makes a good point.
    It’s an small inconvenience to genuine users but a massive one to multiboxers that abuse.
  • CulvernCulvern Posts: 646Member Intermediate
    @neoika. That would be a very good way of handling the issue. By far the best I have seen suggested.
  • OwvinIIOwvinII Posts: 139Member Trainee

    There's an extremely easy few ways to check if a fleet is multiboxing. The easiest it when you pirate them, only the Admiral and maybe one other ship will actually try to save itself by moving. The others just sail off dead in the water like robots. It's hilarious to pirate multiboxers :D"


    Care to post YouTube videos of such?

    Twitchalot
  • CrzyPsycoChickCrzyPsycoChick Posts: 667Member Intermediate
    If what frankqp said here is true all you complaining should be ashamed of yourselves.

    " I would suggest do not fleet more than 3 toons in one fleet try to avoid fleeting company members, friends and relatives even they've different IP address as you will get suspension if they screenshot you is now happen to us."


    So now we can't have 5 man fleets anymore even LEGALLY now thanks to you whiny b****hes?!

    The people who are complaining about multis don't even play trader or seller on the game they're pirates/maritimers who don't even understand the MOST BASIC concepts of supply and demand and actually think multis are raising prices and not supply and demand . They whined and whined and moaned about no incentive when OGP nerfed plunder then they restored plunder and  there's no SSB+1 the chests containing it can sell for 50 to 100mil each even the 100atk books selling for 100 to 150mil each and you guys complaining about people making money with multis?? Get a life! Why don't you go plunder and make money instead of whining and doing your fighting on the report forum instead of in game. 


    Papaya please before you ban do a THOROUGH investigation to make sure people are not 5 man total multi and not like frank case where he fleet one and got banned. This is setting a terrible precedent and people will be afraid to make 5 man fleets thanks to a few CHRONIC COMPLAINERS who know nothing about economics blaming their monetary woes on other players and not their own lack of chasing easily available  money. 

    You guys need to shut the hell up and play the game because at this point you're ruining it you got an INNOCENT person(frank)  banned and you're making people afraid to fleet 5man THANKS TO YOU. 
    Twitchalot
  • clemsonfanclemsonfan Posts: 142Member Trainee
    Just wanna give a quick thanks to all you whiners. My son and i have played this game together for 7 years without ever having an issue.   now due to increased tears from crybaby losers who have nothing better to do   my son was suspended.  and papaya has lost a paying customer in me.  good job losers
    Twitchalot
  • TwitchalotTwitchalot Posts: 263Member Intermediate
    Whine about everyone that does not agree with your style of gameplay(read: most of the pirates), and you to can create a dead server.
    IGN: Henrique_dePortugal, formerly CullumStraun - aka O Tigro Branco(The White Tiger)
    - Director of new_world_company
    Alt: Christopher_de_Haro, formerly William_Adams - temporary Deputy Director of new_world_company

    Pay It Forward - It's what we do
  • TwitchalotTwitchalot Posts: 263Member Intermediate
    Also, I'm sad to hear Clemsonfan is leaving. If I remember right Clem, you're from the Netmarble era, around the same time as me. Truly a grievous loss to the UWO community, and a completely unnecessary one. *Shakes head* idk........
    IGN: Henrique_dePortugal, formerly CullumStraun - aka O Tigro Branco(The White Tiger)
    - Director of new_world_company
    Alt: Christopher_de_Haro, formerly William_Adams - temporary Deputy Director of new_world_company

    Pay It Forward - It's what we do
  • KatanauwoKatanauwo Posts: 309Member Intermediate
    Just ovwrhaul the entire player trade system. Make everything including ducats not tradeable.

    Instead a player can leech a producer’s skill to produce special parts as long as the producer is withon the fleet.

    This way the only reason to nanban is to get money for things like grading ships, while ships are not tradeable either.

    In the end it becomes meaningless to run alts.
    aldrizneriss2
  • lefox271lefox271 Posts: 495Member Intermediate
    @clemonsonfan what did your son do to get suspended?
  • JustToTalkJustToTalk Posts: 59Member Beginner
    Papaya should set a rule clearly stated as the following:

    3 toons per IP is allowed, however, 5 toons in a fleet sailing on sea or walking on land is not allowed. Every players must restrict themselves from fleeting in 5, or once a screenshot is taken, actions will be taken.

    As simple as that.
  • CulvernCulvern Posts: 646Member Intermediate
    5 in a fleet has never been an issue before. As long as they're 5 different players or IPs.
    All ESF fleets are always five.
    Unless it is one person with all five toons them that is a violation of the rules.
    This is a community game which is meant to encourage people to work together and play together, so fleeting together is encouraged.
    If more people would embrace that aspect of the game this whole issue would not exist at all. No one would need alts. They could fleet together to leach the skills that they are lacking.
    Unfortunately many people feel that they NEED everything by themselves, which spawns this whole debate.

    I am sure I will hear the "I need alts for SBing or fusion or storage"
    That is not a NEED, it is a WANT. So be honest with yourself about that.

    Once again I have graded all my ships to G6 without use of any alts ever. So it can be done.
  • aceman39aceman39 Posts: 943Member Intermediate
    So according to JustToTalk players in a community game should not be a fleet of 5 friends or company members. If they are together as a fleet of 5 it should be a automatic ban. Well there went the whole community aspect people complain we need more of
  • CrzyPsycoChickCrzyPsycoChick Posts: 667Member Intermediate
    @Multi witch hunters and snitches 
    Screw all you people whining about this multi crap at  this point your stupid misguided witch hunt has not only be proven false but now its hurt the game so much that it has:

    1. Gotten innocent people banned who happened fleet someone doing over 3 multi and got screenshot . Ie. Fleet for a quest, fleet for SBing, fleet for esf or BC. This could happen to anyone. 

    2. Made the community fear fleeting in 5 man fleet even legally now for fear it will be screenshot and you assumed you're a multi and permabanned

    3. Losing 8 year vets over BS. 

    At this point they should ban YOU you've clearly done more visible damage to the community than ANY  multi in the game at this point.  FACT



    Multis...really? That's the priority right now really? You got a server that:

    1. You can't stay connected for more than 5 minutes at a time

    2. You can't speak in World chat or merchant chat in a MMO until you log out repeatedly 

    3. People STILL don't have their founder's rewards

    4.  You can't block people or it helps block you from speaking 

    With all these Way more important problems why the focus on multi?  and more importantly how are we innocent players supposed to know who is multi to not fleet them not all are same dressed easy to spot fleeting is a mandatory element of the game for many things should we now only do 3 man fleets is that what you want? 

    You must come up with a better way of doing this it can't be a simple screenshot and you're banned crap you're losing players and MONEY. 

    @CA's


    CA's  please get on here and defend player's rights because  multis are not causing more damage than this witch hunt is at this point. Can you please get Papaya to stop the bleeding. How many more innocent players must be banned before you step in to help us... I told my company no more 5man fleets even legally until further notice until the witch hunt is over for fear it can be mistaken for multi . Many others are doing the same IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT? Help us. 




    lefox271Twitchalot
  • lefox271lefox271 Posts: 495Member Intermediate
    CPC - you are one of the few people who writes long posts on this forum which are actually worth reading.

    Alts have become a target for a few discontented players. It's just that they need something to blame. LOL - can you imagine how they'd complain about inflation and all the money in the game if 1.4 million people suddenly started playing it !! 

    As for the other issues - I wouldn't hold my breath. I reckon Papaya are on a tight budget.

    For someone like me who just wants to grind a few skills, do some quests, and make a few ducats sailing to SEA - the game actually look pretty good.
    Twitchalot
  • binkl1965binkl1965 Posts: 20Member Beginner
    @ aldrizneriss2 - The rules state "No more then 3 accounts from the same IP/household." 

    Now it sure sounds like you are against this rule. You keep claiming that it is because there is more then 3 people in your household who are playing. I doubt that seriously. I believe (as I can see many do also) that you are upset that you and your other household accounts (alts or not) could get banned. Well if you are running more then 3 accounts at the same time, then yes, you and the other accounts should get banned. You are breaking a rule that papaya has in place.

    As for the whining, I am only reading the whining you are doing. No one else is. I think, and you can correct me if I am wrong, that you are one of these multi-boxing players and you are truly scared that you and all your accounts that you have used in the game could get banned. 

    I, for one, hope they do ban.... especially with all your whining and crying here.


    Twitchalot
  • CulvernCulvern Posts: 646Member Intermediate
    The 3 toon limit for an IP is unfortunate for those that honestly have multiple people in the household looking to play together. I would guess that for every situation like this there are 200x more that just multibox by themselves.
    I can't understand why CPC and others are angry that you can only run 3 toons at one time? Is 3 at once not enough?

    As for the claims that people who are 5 fleeted getting banned? I don't know how true it is or if those that did get banned were breaking the rules or not. OJ Simpson claims he was innocent too.
    If 3 toons at once (you can have many more toons for all your skill and storage needs just don't login all at once) is not enough for your NEEDS , how many is?
    What can one person NEED more than 3 at ONCE? I honestly and seriously don't know, not trying to be an a$$. # should be enough to give you all the skills possible in the game and have enough inventory space to do any production.
    Why would anyone need more?
    Twitchalot
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