SSB as MA reward and SB Oxford skill

Culvern · December 2017

I have been trying to plunder this book for about a week. R18 plunder with seize cargo aide and rare item plunder.
It is not easy as i have got nothing but garbage from the chest.

HelloAll · December 2017

@Culvern R18 plunder? How the hell have you got that you monster!

You maxed refined all your melee skills I take it?

Culvern · December 2017

Nothing refined yet. Just a lot of melee grinding.
Plunder has many + items and the oxfords as well.

Twitchalot · December 2017

There was 1 character on GAMA that spent 3 years plundering chests and no SSB, Rothmere or something like that. I do hope you have better luck Culvern.

Culvern · December 2017

Well that terrifies me!
I am just hoping to score some ducats.
Rumor is one of the books sold for 5 bill on Maris already.
I know that price will be coming down as they become more common.

Twitchalot · January 2018

I'm still wanting to know, is an SSB going to be the MA reward for the Hulls set on this reboot server or will the tyranny of Netmarble and OGPlanet contiue?

Culvern · January 2018

Well after a few weeks of plundering ship engineer chests I finally got a SSB. It took about 120-140 chest though.
I hope they don't put the SSB in as a reward for the MA.
All the work that has to be done to get it from plunder deserves such a reward.
Have to get your plunder to r20 get rare item plunder skill, get aide with seize cargo level high enough to use it. Melee skills have to be high enough to get the chests and need to have a good enough ship to grind am.

Now I need to get a few more.
I Have got so many saws and hammers that I sell them to the item shop!

Twitchalot · January 2018

*SIGH* Culvern, sometimes you really vex me. And I reiterate(again), why shouldn't a Shipbuilder, using the Shipbuilding skill at a very high rank be able to, as a reward for completing a Memorial Album all related to Shipbuilding be able to receive a reward better than a 1 time use Delphin Skysail, like say, something that helps them do better Shipbuilding and doesn't lose dura from sailing around? Please Culvern, explain to me why this would be a bad thing for the server? And please, no circular logic.

Twitchalot · January 2018

Seriously, I wish you well in your endeavors, and you wish me.....crap. Thanks.

Culvern · January 2018

Not wishing anyone crap, well at least not you.
I don't think there would be anything wrong with you getting a SSB from the MA, but you really throw hate at those that are able to get it through the very hard work that they have done to plunder it.
It is one of the only items worth a decent amount that one can get through using rare item plunder.
It's value decreases dramatically with an abundance of them available.
But many items are only obtainable from jobs that are unrelated. I think it's done purposely to promote interaction between players. Like Excalibur is received from an adventure quest yet is a maritime weapon. I don't have one since I don't have the skills to pull the quest and most adventure player don't use them once they get it, they sell it.
Once I get another SSB I will be more than happy to make it available to you to purchase. It will take about 20-30 hours of farming to get one I would guess, so about 2 weeks of play time for me I'd I do nothing but farm. Selling it for a few billion is not quick money at all as nanbanners can make that kind of money much faster.

WesDoobner · January 2018

I think it's obvious why someone who has an SSB and the means of getting more would not want them to be more common, and having the value decrease. The point of playing a game is to gain advantage somehow, and that's nothing personal against any one person. there's no need to get all butthurt when someone does get an advantage, and even desires to maintain that advantage. We all need to find that edge that helps us do better than our competitors.

On a side note, what ship are you using for this SSB hunting Culvern?

Twitchalot · January 2018

Culvern, give your head a shake and actually read what I've actually written regarding getting the SSB via Plunder: "I'm not opposed to the people who want to get them from the chests, in fact, I'd say I hope more drop, not like "make it rain SSB's" when OGP did that, but more, as in, enough that the price stays within reasonable bounds" and "There was 1 character on GAMA that spent 3 years plundering chests and no SSB, Rothmere or something like that. I do hope you have better luck Culvern." And your response? "I hope they don't put the SSB in as a reward for the MA. " Thanks a lot.

Culvern · January 2018

It's true I want to keep my price advantage.
Of course I don't want them to be readily available.
If possible it would be great if I was the sole provider of ssb.
And I did say that I don't think there is anything wrong with getting them from the MA but you must not have read that part.

Wes, I have been grinding with an ALR.

Twitchalot · January 2018

Anyone who's doing Plunder to get SSBs that thinks if it becomes the MA reward for the Hulls set it will be "readily available" is delusional. Try doing that MA set, and then tell me how easy it was. I can tell you that there won't be a bunch of players creating alts to get the SSB that way if it becomes the MA reward. And, yes Culvern, I did read that part, but, I chose to ignore it just as you ignored what I said. Having said that, I still hope you do get some more SSBs from Plunder.

Culvern · January 2018

As much as I would also be fine with shipbuilder getting the book from the MA, it does not look like they will be changing it. They did state that anything available to get in game will not be In the captains tickets so they won't be flooding the market anytime soon.
I wish they do put them in as a reward for you. We all need more r20 SBing.

eyuhfy · January 2018

To Culvern says

"They did state that anything available to get in game will not be In the captains tickets"

Really? Then, how about Delphin storm sail and Improved full rigged sail? Both are obtainable as MA reward but were also put in cpt tickets.

aceman39 · January 2018

Culvern is right the did say anything obtainable in game will not be obtainable in captain tickets

Twitchalot · January 2018

Well, if there will be no SSBs from Captain's Tickets and they wont be an MA reward, then, honestly, it's truly stupidly ridiculous that only 1 group of players will have the market cornered on a very important item in the game. I know there are comparisons to Adventurers getting Excaliburs or Mjolnirs and selling them, but, you can only do that once with each toon(yes, there's supposedly a 5% chance of getting them after the first one, although I've never heard of anyone getting a second one), whereas a plunderer can get as many SSBs as they want if they're willing to keep getting the chests. Also, Excaliburs and Mjolnir's sell for less than 1b and are optional, and an SSB is, for most SBs, is the only way to get to r20. If this truly is the way things are, then I'm extremely disappointed in Papaya Play.

eyuhfy · January 2018

To Aceman,

anything obtainable in game will not be obtainable in captain tickets

I assert that DSS and IFRS are obtainable ingame and also in cpt tickets (in the past).

Dont you see this refutes your statement?

aceman39 · January 2018

The statement I made is the one that PPP itself stated and we can only wait and see if that is true or not nothing we can do and complaining about things is not going to get us anywhere

Culvern · January 2018

Those items were available in game and in the tickets previously.
The statement by papaya was just made a week or so ago so we will have to see how thanks upheld going forward.
The SSBs will become more available as time goes on. They do not lose durability as the Excalibur and such does.
I have never done the Excalibur quest to know first hand, but I am guessing that it is a guaranteed reward at the end if the quest?
Wish there was a SSB guarantee during plunder.
Opened another 40 chests this weekend and got nothing......

Twitch, I understand what you are saying about the MA. Would be a nice reward, but does not look likely. Prices have already come down on the SSB so be patient or start saving. Otherwise start the grind to get one for yourself........its worse than the SB grind.

Twitchalot · January 2018

All adventure quest and map rewards are guaranteed.....once. After that, most, like Excalibur, are reduced to supposedly a 5% chance each time after, although, as I stated, I've never heard of anyone ever getting a second Excalibur or Mjolnir in over 6 years of playing.

Culvern · January 2018

Don't most fleet their alts the first time and get 3 Excalibur swords at the completion of the quest?
I have heard that as a rumor, but have never done adventure or alts myself.

aceman39 · January 2018

Some do and some don't

carlalex · January 2018

Has anyone actually done the MA yet ?

Until then I guess we dont know what the reward is - or has Papaya stated anything on the issue ?

Twitchalot · January 2018

Ok, so, technically, 1 player can get 3 Excaliburs if they do the entire chain with all 3 characters. Once. Total worth less than 1 SSB in ducats. Same with Mjolnirs. 3 of all the high end weapons and items a player can get via adventure quests and maps would total maybe 4 SSBs in ducats and I wouldn't even hazard a guess at how many hours are involved in getting the ranks and getting then doing the quests and maps to get them all.

Culvern · January 2018

All I know is that since relaunch I have been grinding melee skills and plunder. That's for months now. I have finally gotten to the point I can attempt to plunder the chests that may give the SSB. It has cost billions in ship parts and such during the grind. The wear on all my equip and ship dura.
Buying a Artomios plunder ex which cost billions as well.
So far I have gotten about 160 chests or so in the past 3-4 weeks of nonstop plundering them.
1 SSB. That's It so far. 1
If I am lucky enough to get another 3 before their value drops I may break even. Will take at least another month or 2 I am guessing.....
The MA route sounds simple to me. I hope they put it as a reward for it so I don't have to work so hard.

CrzyPsycoChick · January 2018

Personally I love it I like to see maritimers out plundering those chests its creating a nice lucrative market for maritime you know the chests alone are selling for 50mil each! Get that money.

I'm a very Pro-Player type of player in which I like things that bring incentive for players to perform activities in the game especially maritimers as we all know this requires the most money also this is raising demand for R20 SBers as they are a rare commodity so this creates more incentive to max it out. As for traders… you got nanban step it up go nanban go craft sell your UWC items in auction (PM me about that :) . Get the cash however you can its 2.5 bil to 3bil right now for a SSB+1 that's not that bad by the time you hit R19 SB and you need SSB +1 you could have raised the cash to purchase it by then right? Dont be lazy guys you want the best gear right? THEN WORK FOR IT! :D

My opinion leave it out the memorial album keep the player market for this item booming.

Twitchalot · January 2018

Culvern, MA will get you 1 SSB if it is put in, have fun, the hours needed to get it are considerably high, especially getting the SB rank needed. CPC, you say you like incentives for players to do activities? What's more of an incentive to do that MA set, a D-Storm or an SSB? How many SBer's passed on doing that MA set on GAMA because the reward wasn't a SSB, so wasn't really worth the effort? I did it just to complete another MA set, but, many didn't. So don't try to tell me you're "Pro-Player" then tell me you want prevent SBers from getting their own SSB and breaking the Plunderers monoply. Because it's patently absurd that the ability to get one of the most important in-game items should be limited to and controlled by one group of players. A person or group having a monopoly on anything vital is never good for any any economy, and that is exactly what we have atm.

CrzyPsycoChick · January 2018

What you said is true however the same exact thing could be said of us traders regarding monopolies. Plunderers shouldn't be able to have a monopoly on SSB then traders shouldn't have a monopoly on 100 atk defense gear or food of freestyle sails, fine tributes and ship parts or vinland set or Excalibur the knife cuts both ways.

I feel the player market has always acted as a checks and balances system that's what makes it works basically if you cant get something or too lazy to get it you pay for it simple. As far as the MA was the reward garbage? OFC should the reward be increasedhey OFC should it be THAT exact SSB Item? no not if it kills incentive for players to go out and get it.

My last reason for me supporting them keeping it out is back on OGP a terrible decision was made to make SSB a trash drop meaning everyone one had one cheap not only did this kill player incentive to plunder it but it also made it IMPOSSIBLE for OGP to ever out it in the bottle and make money off of it. That was really dumb imo. I think Papaya should keep it as a rare item and occasionally add it in captain ticket as a rare drop that way they can at least profit from it. I papaya profits in a responsible way its good for the server.

Last point just like all things in uwo nothing is stopping you or me from grinding maritime getting aide skill seize cargo and getting it ourselves right? If not the pay up simple this is the way uwo was designed… it is what it is.

SSB as MA reward and SB Oxford skill

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