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A proposal to remove forging tools and cash cannons.

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  • HeavyWaterHeavyWater Posts: 138Member Trainee
    Loud floating mine + munitions chambers on St. Lawrence = RSM
    Admiral's cabin + munitions chambers = command post

    What peeves me is all 3 fusion bonuses being used for stat +s, which in general is a big no-no.
    A 'good mod' would have dura OR armour, cabin, and SU1 or inherit (maybe extra skill slot depending on the ship). Dura AND armour bonus is an inherently bad mod.
    It's alright, Ma, I'm only bored.
  • carlalexcarlalex Posts: 187Member Trainee
    UWC ships almost always have the same (optional and original) skills as their non UWC version.
  • gelsonluzgelsonluz Posts: 37Member Beginner
    It's not that SY ships cannot PvP, the point is the gap between ticket and non ticket ships.

    I don't think it is fair to compare a high end SY battleship like st
    Lawrence (76 battle lvl required) to an average ticket ship (like custom Vaisseau). It is like comparing apples to bananas, why not
    compare the SY ship with its ticket counterpart instead?

    Even disregarding differences in ship classes, the SY ship used up grading bonus that the ticket ship could use as speedups 123 or strategic ship skills.

    So, is this gap (ticket / non ticket) acceptable 'pay to win' for you guys?
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  • CulvernCulvern Posts: 646Member Intermediate
    I am afraid there has to be some amount of p2w in most games. The company needs to have a profit and there has to some benefits to paying.
    If not, no one would pay and the game would end.
    For those that complain that it is not fair.....
    I think it is very unfair that there are those that do not pay and yet still play. And they are the ones that complain!
    There is no item in the game that someone can buy with real cash that is not available to those that only use ducats. So p2w is totally untrue.
    Pay to spend less time, that I can agree to.

    Sorry if you have to make one or two nanban trips to earn as as many ducats as I can get from spending $100 in real money. Actually makes it seem as if the game is not P2W but Nanban2Win!
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  • carlalexcarlalex Posts: 187Member Trainee
    How can it be unfair not to pay for a game marketed as free to play ?

    Dont forget that those who dont pay provide content for those who do.
  • CulvernCulvern Posts: 646Member Intermediate
    Not saying it's unfair to not pay. Just that those that are playing for free should not be bitching that those that are paying for the game are getting better stuff, especially when it is available to them as well.
    The game is free to play but papaya is not a charity, they need to make money to continue to hist the game for everyone.
    The free to play players should be thanking those that support the game instead of crying about them.
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  • purplepiratepurplepirate Posts: 994Member Intermediate
    I wonder how people would feel if they ALL had to pay a monthly fee to play the game like in some other games and on some of the Asian servers.
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  • carssmancarssman Posts: 70Member Beginner
    If Maris became a subscription server we would have a quarter of the population.

    I fully agree that although money buys luxuries it mostly saves you the grind. Nanban to win!!

    MGHPs! F - ya!
  • OwvinIIOwvinII Posts: 139Member Trainee
    Super-powered cannons? 
    Did anyone used them in that one one-time-only circumnavigation battle again a large fleet of big NPC ships where it would otherwise be okay to be defeated in that battle and still progress in the circumnavigation?
  • dirtyundies22dirtyundies22 Posts: 2Member Beginner
    A simple solution would be to make the Modified Grand High Perrier plunderable. It would better balance open world pvp but still allow players to show off the size of their wallet in ESF and Battle Campaign (where winning and losing does not matter). 
  • SUNDOGG97SUNDOGG97 Posts: 135Member Trainee
    Over powered Cannons and any over powered item. Now that some have them and now the secret is out.

    Time to get rid of them so any one else can not have them.

    This is such an asinine suggestion.

    Let not give the chance and opportunity for the game to be fair for all
  • chronofoxchronofox Posts: 72Member Beginner
    Imo pvp is pay to win.Now if greed didnt run wild in the server like it does id say ya u can get by with in game $$.

    The amount of cash items fs parts u need to get a good pvp ship up in running let alone the crazy cost of cash ships.

    @culvern I know right the free player's crying about being 1 shot by cash cannons the nerve right....
    And how dare they not thank people who choose  to buy better pixels.
    This is what cash vs non cash looks like lol
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  • carlalexcarlalex Posts: 187Member Trainee
    Plenty non-UWC good PvP battle ships can be made in game - they just take better qualified players to use,
  • SpooklesSpookles Posts: 287Member Intermediate
    @carlalex
    He's true, UWC vs SY ships is not really a big issue.

    Though these cannons are what makes pvp unfair.
  • SpooklesSpookles Posts: 287Member Intermediate
    @Culvern
    I agree that people that pay real money should get better gear, although there needs to be a point where enough is enough, and those cannons are crossing a line.
    For example, a doubleshot cannon should be considered very strong. But now the guy with the MGHP can laugh in his face by doing the same damage from triple the distance (over exaggerated but you get the point)

  • CulvernCulvern Posts: 646Member Intermediate
    Well I see everyone misunderstood what I have said.
    Let me try to be clear.
    Yes the MGHP cannons are overkill.
    Thing is that they are bought with real cash AND ducats. ANY player can buy them with ducats and not spend any real money on them. This goes for ALL ticket/cash items, ships too.
    If you don't want to buy them with real cash....there is a secret code that allows you to buy them with ducats!

    It is WTB , just type that in and the item you want and you can get it! No money required.

    Cash players do not have any advantage over non-cash players other than maybe it takes less time to get something. And they pay for that with Real Money.

    EVERYTHING is available to everyone.

    And we need cash players to support the server as well as buy us the cash items that we will pay ducats for.
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  • PotatoCannonPotatoCannon Posts: 26Member Beginner
    I think its getting close to the time that Naver uninstalls the game and deletes company, colony and his toon. He makes some valid points sometimes but the way he goes about it is simply not useful to anyone and that includes the stupid thread about the boycott thingy. I just found it funny again....good luck all hehe.
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  • OwvinIIOwvinII Posts: 139Member Trainee
    Since Naver invested billions ot ducats over multiple cities, if Naver ends up banned or deleates his character or leaves UWO, then
    would the cities/towns in which Naver invested end up losing many development points, potentially making certain ships/trade goods/other things unavailable again?
  • WesDoobnerWesDoobner Posts: 761Member Intermediate
    I don't think there are many players on the game today who understand the difference between pay2win and pay for convenience. As Culvern said, everything can be bought with ducats - that completely dismisses the pay2win point. Pay2win means you can get stuff with cash that other can't get with in game currency.
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  • PotatoCannonPotatoCannon Posts: 26Member Beginner
    As i have said before, Papaya has done things wrong in my opinion. The excuse they gave was weak. We all understand companies need to make money to function, aka "put bread on table-buy ferraris". Naver got his wish of being banned/delete toon again. The GMs actually were polite and understanding but as usual he just wanted HIS way or no way. great way to achieve your point dude just great haha.

    Sincerely Pawel_..

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  • KatanauwoKatanauwo Posts: 309Member Intermediate
    This was very much like the last few months of OGP’s time, except that OGP lasted a few years before reaching the tipping point, whereas our beloved PPP only lasted half a year.

    I pray for all of those who recently spent big on PPP. May there be other few months before PPP announce their “thank you and bye” message.
  • HelloAllHelloAll Posts: 701Member Intermediate
    ^ some people like yourself can’t wait for the day the game ends.

    Let’s not pretend you care about the people that pay.
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  • PippiLongstockingPippiLongstocking Posts: 0Member Beginner
    Wait a sec here.....we are arguing about OP cannons, but hardly anyone is mentioning the fact that equipment can be made OP by transmutation.  So this is an attack on cannons (which is the real skill of maritime btw) and no attack whatsoever on melee equipment.  They should have taken this into consideration long before now. I really do not think there is any OP cannons in the game, personally.  There is more to battle than running your ship into someone else's and watching your stats do all the work.  What skill is that?  Most of you play this game rather than the other games because in those games you also have no skill whatsoever and are wiped out with ease by those who do. This game, is the only game I play, and all this whining about the characteristics by a few has to stop. I do not believe any in-game player should have any power, resource, influence over the game.  To me, that is the biggest problem I see to date!

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  • CulvernCulvern Posts: 646Member Intermediate
    @pippi
    I prefer the cannon duel as well, but have had BHs try to melee me with 300+ crew vs my 200 while I was grinding (so I had no real equipment on). And with selecting the right skill at the right times I was able to defeat them anyways.
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