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This game is deadz-o and here is why (from a-z)
mamario00
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I hope this color blinds your freaking eye out because that's how your brain is being burnt out everytime you launch this game. Listen man, this game is deadz-o, the community is killing itself and papaya is too slow to even bring a remedy to the situation, not only have the GMs Lied to the community but they also don't feel responsible enough to actually bring up a fine cause to fixing said issues.
First and foremost, the community representative are complete garbage. Done. Come confront me if you want, I dare you, I swear to god do it. The first season CR were freaking great, kudos to them, but these new ones are just plain out useless and don't even know that they are even alive this instant. let me start a list here ok, so lets do this in a civilized critic manner.
GhostxTown: Whats the nicest term you call a female who has poo for brain and also smashed every online guy in existant but also has "tastes." this is the chick. Shes useless as a CR and the answer is simple, she has the attention of a rhinoceros. Easily triggered and blind to actual reasonings.
First and foremost, the community representative are complete garbage. Done. Come confront me if you want, I dare you, I swear to god do it. The first season CR were freaking great, kudos to them, but these new ones are just plain out useless and don't even know that they are even alive this instant. let me start a list here ok, so lets do this in a civilized critic manner.
GhostxTown: Whats the nicest term you call a female who has poo for brain and also smashed every online guy in existant but also has "tastes." this is the chick. Shes useless as a CR and the answer is simple, she has the attention of a rhinoceros. Easily triggered and blind to actual reasonings.
Micayla: I got nothing bad against this individual, but like, who are you? I am irrevelant myself but like seriously, who.
Numerical: I hope this kid actually lives up to that ign because seeing the current LTC prices, it seems like the highest he can count is up to negative zero.
TheArchitect: No one respects this guy and the times he tries to help out the community he sounds like a buffoon. He likes to comment on each forum post with the worst information possible and usually has to have someone else correct him, even if he has been corrected once on the topic, he still gives out his response. This guy lacks the authorative and mental constitution that is required to be a CR, the only good thing I can say about him is that he is friendly, but being friendly is different from actually having friends or something. He gets called out for his stupidity and gets laughed at by the community, and whatever ideas he might have is usually garbage, just like his porno video.
TitanPole: I probably respect him just because his pole is the size of titans.
Now lets talk about the community compromised of those people who started young, and wants to die with this game.
TheArchitect: No one respects this guy and the times he tries to help out the community he sounds like a buffoon. He likes to comment on each forum post with the worst information possible and usually has to have someone else correct him, even if he has been corrected once on the topic, he still gives out his response. This guy lacks the authorative and mental constitution that is required to be a CR, the only good thing I can say about him is that he is friendly, but being friendly is different from actually having friends or something. He gets called out for his stupidity and gets laughed at by the community, and whatever ideas he might have is usually garbage, just like his porno video.
TitanPole: I probably respect him just because his pole is the size of titans.
Now lets talk about the community compromised of those people who started young, and wants to die with this game.
how to say this in nice terms.......you guys are the stage 4 cancer of the latale biological composition, done.
Seriously, you guys purposely ruined the game in the first month of launch and are still continuing to do so for reasons unbeknownst to me. Here is why the community is toxic:
1. The majority of this game is compromised of people who are AT LEAST 15+ and at that age you start learning about economics, if not in middle school. Sure latale isn't real life, but games like mmo are compromised of real life circumstances so that ones person action creates a domino effect to everyone else. People tend to
2. Ever since the game started out at relaunch everyone had the goal of friendlier community and parties and stuff but since the first day, everyone went their own ways.Everyone became an egotistical c*nt and decided to only focus on themselves, and the sad part is that only the people with money reached far in the game, that's a fact. This game on the very first day showed the dominance that money has, and its the only game that managed to pull a stunt like that, I swear. From then those naïve thoughts of helping out newbies was a pipe dream, I can call out each one of you high levels a**holes and I can repeat all the various excuses you make for having maxed your gems or reaching a level where exp isn't that important anymore, and ya still have the audacity to sell leeches for exp dungeons either for free, or an insane amount. You are all hypocritical beings that like to look good but gets salty when they get called out.
3. No loot when they give exp leech to dungeons like MH. They already have +9 trio Minerva gems, yet they still want the loot for the gem pieces for no apparent reasons, maybe to sell a shit gem for like 80m ely. Seriously, why do ya do it, are ya just that greedy to get pixelated money?
4. Lack of peripheral vision. You guys are so narrow-sighted that you believe that you guys are the one and only top dog in the game. The few times I have seen pros actually help out a newbie, I hear dumb stuff like "it takes like a day to reach lvl 200." First off, that's not a real response. You can tell everyone what sort of boosters you use for exp gain rate and the best place to farm, yet not everyone have the time schedule you can have or the adequate information to speed run it. I'm not gonna debate if they even have the resources, even in the hypothetical situation that they manage to copy everything about you, it wont change the fact that not everyone is you, everyone has their style of gameplay that affects their overall playtime, so you shoving your egotistical viewpoints is the most dumbest thing since the invention of dab.
5. Stop calling something easy. You know whats easy? breathing; Not Latale. For one thing this is an MMO, and for a second, the scale of this game changes drastically mid-game to end-game. Plus no one wants to help you clear content. I can call out idiots like Augustine or anyone else, who 100% believes that someone who is equipped with shit can solo Mutant sword in 30 seconds. Like you guys pull out the response "ymir isn't hard, I can do it in 2 minutes!!!" and believe everyone can do it in the same amount of time, no they cant. Also instead of pressuring people to live up to your standards, why don't ya help them? Its not that hard to help out ya fellow guildmates or strangers by revisiting mechapriring or whatever, youre playing a game, not competing in a business to win CEO management.
This should go under Community but I will have the guild have their own tab of their own.Guilds are your one way ticket for never getting your questions answered or not being able to party or get help like they claim they do. The only reason you join a guild is for that nice incentive, the buffs. Oh and Mics and to get your gems, but when it comes to the social aspect, just use your own buddy list.
What gets me most pissed off are the pay-to-win players and the pay-to-win aspect overall, so this is gonna go in depth about the marketplace.1.Now I'm sure its your money and you can do whatever you like, but its not your money as soon as you cash it into the system, because if it was your money, LTC wouldn't be tradeable and neither will everything on the fashion shop. So I hate these dumb kids who cash in 500 dollars in the game and instead of making an actual profit the first time they cash, they are dumb enough to spend it on gamble boxes and waste all that money on just getting maybe a gem if theyre lucky enough. if not it is just fisherman blessing or some other useless shit. Then they cash another 500 dollars and be like "selling ltc 1m each"and that my friend is the real reason why LTC keep rising, because you have idiots who first off, don't know anything about probability or money management, and second off, are so completely salty and brain dead that they want to purposely rise LTC prices because, and I quote "The demand just doesn't meet the supply".
HAHHHHHHHHH, seriously, do you even have a single brain stem on you?
2. The prices for the essentials wasn't a big deal at first but now they are just retarded, for a lack of words. You need to get a minimum wage of 14 dollars the hour in order to actually survive in this crappy game, mostly because everything is time and pet herbs are the only thing people care about anyways these days.
3. If you people are desperate for LTC, instead of offering 250k for each LTC, just get a fucking job, like seriously. even if you earn that McDonald salary, you could probably buy out all that you need in a 40 hour shift, then actually being 40 hours online on latale, especially if youre not high level tier.
Finally, its time for the GM to get their tooshies destroyed my dude. WHY ARE YOU LIARS?!?!Ever since the beginning of the servers, I had my suspicions about these GM, they just felt too good to be true, and I was right. Look at these current situations and it all leads down to them. The supply of said articles they said they were going to increase and stuff have slowly been detoriated. I been seeing things like +200 pots more often than +500 pots in all of these events, and for some dumb fucking ass reason, they thought that putting one pet herb as a ranking prize around rank 30-50 was the best thing in the whole entire universe to win, at least make it x3 to make people not give up if theyre not rank 15.
I don want to call them out one on one, I'm just gonna call them out in general. This is how they lied.1. when Agni came out, Eris and the rest of the staff have established that the pink haired succubus pet was going to come out, but its been like 2 months after Agni has come out and that pet still hasn't come out. THEY CONFIRMED IT WAS, even showing pictures and stuff to the community, yet they never did.
2. They honestly think that the NA community are a bunch of idiots or else they wouldn't let some things slip by. They gave us both Aki and Agni patch in one go, but they ate so much content away from both patches that I'm surprised all you idiots aren't complaining nonstop. First and foremost is pets, I think about 15 pets got swept away during all these patch, including some ugly humanoid tiger that people would have had bestial pleasures for. There is also books like wrath or something like that as well as 1 hour storm pots. Most of these would have been in the gamble boxes and would have flushed out some useless items that we for some reason still have.
3. We have told the GM that we don't want anymore gamble boxes, like to get that fucking shit out of our sight, and yet they not only gave us one gamble box, they also gave us some premium content, which I still cant wrap it around my head that it somehow still gives you the worst possible prizes 90% of the time, like come on, do you guys not know that a percentage scale goes up to 100% and that you should distribute the percentile and rarity of items to said scale? Its not only the gamble boxes, but the limited quantity flash sales. You might think youre getting a steal on both of these, but ya aint, its scam material 101.
4. anything below 50% discount isn't a great offer, especially when ya constantly abuse the -10-30% thing, why are ya doing this. If you keep pulling this stunt, someone else is gonna notice and call ya out. Psychologically speaking, people are more prone to buying things if they see a discount- like offer, because they think its a steal, so its a great practice, but meh..... you are dealing with dumbos so I doubt they can catch up.
5.They say they play the game but its clear they don't, or else most of these issues would have been addressed immediately, they put FLIPSIDE in a higher pedestal when it comes to knowing how to handle a game. I understand the fact that they want to keep it like KLT, but theyre not even doing that and I know they are following the dev and all, but clearly even a worker can tell their boss that theyre wrong.
I can go out in higher detail on each of the category but this is clearly already 100 pages long.
For a solution here is my intake and I am gonna be as blunt as possible.You stupid CR who are playing the god damn game, GIVE SOME FUCKING SUGGESTION AND SHOW PICS, its like these new CR still don't realize their job criteria.You played this game as soon as everyone else, so I'm pretty sure even your pets are dying, no matter how much cash ya can pull out, ya in the same bind as everyone else. If simple talking isn't solving it, then use threats or whatever, say something like "well us and the players are gonna boycott the game until this is given." Honestly youre all a bunch of scaredy-cat, no matter how tough ya are, ya end up sucking each others toe when it comes to confrontations, and that's why a blunt person like me is necessary. I don't give a rat ass if I get banned or not, someone has to call out on all this bullshit and that will be me.The only way Pet herbs are gonna come out more often if the GM can do simple math and realize that they have around 20 stackable pet in their list, so at least giving the community 4 pet herbs a week is fine to save most of them, while also giving them a chance to buy some for their own.
If a person is trying to ruin your game, just ban them. seriously. All these trolls raising prices should just get banned, let them try that inflation shit in real life and they get their bottom lips stretched to their navel in 15 seconds. youre not losing anyone important if you ban them, plus they will always recreate another account so that's more money for you.
I know ya got all that progress and hard work into the game and no one wants to see that go to waste but like seriously, just quit the game,its for your own good. All that money you waste on this game can go to well worth game like Destiny or Hyperdimension neptunia. Games worth their money price tags.
With that peace, I will see you all on the greener side of this planet if I get banned, if not, I will ontinue posting the truth.
If you suffer attention whore syndrome then hi big ash, nice to see you commenting!!.
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If you love me then the feeling is mutual.
They've
pushed LaTale in a terrible direction. The amount of power creep and
the various ways you can improve your character stats have long since
reached an absurd level. A level that is impossible to properly balance
around and has resulted in content that is extremely frustrating and
gating to newer players while being soloable by the hardcore.
It
used to be that having a +9 Coli set with decent enchants meant you
were ready to attempt most content. You could farm Vintor TAID, Ifrit,
Degos, Theseus and even Njord since that was mostly a mechanics-based
boss rather than requiring absurd numbers on your stat sheet. Was it
optimal? Of course not, but it was doable. Unfortunately this is around
the time that Actoz started pumping out more and more methods of
acquiring direct and immediate power from the cash shop and dungeons
began scaling exponentially; something that becomes necessary when you
allow so much power creep into your game. This lead to some horrible
imbalances and a giant rift in the playerbase. The same rift that exists
at this very moment. You have the hardcore who can solo everything and
everyone else at various stages of reaching that point. Actoz has turned
LaTale into a game that promotes selfishness above all else. A single-player MMO. The end
goal for everyone is to become a one man army because that is the
playstyle which is rewarded the most.
Sure you had a handful of
people who could solo Degos back in the day but it was actually
detrimental to do so. Your reputation gain tanked hard and reputation
was very important for maintaining/rerolling accessories, you didn't
benefit from hoarding drops because you couldn't trade them with anyone
else, you likely ended up spending any additional ely you got on
consumable usage and the clear was much, much slower than if you had
gone with a party. It was designed and balanced in a way that heavily
promoted party play. This design philosophy no longer exists in LaTale.
the blame is still on Papaya because they are too much of a wuss to actually follow along with what actoz has to offer.
and yeah back in the days it was simpler times, now you have people making up math formulas for strength and stuff.
@LordEgil the lack of fashion as well is a problem, We all want out horse mask
Seriously. Rather than playing single-player MMO buy an awesome stand-alone game and have a blast.
@BigAsh It's not a personal attack, its a fact. I am glad that you are going to take some of these points to a meeting, at least that got through to you!
@Pineapplecakes Yes I am mad, I been fighting on the front lines for so long and no one has ever done anything, expect more rage comments when the new updates come and the same issues persist.
@JellyDonut I understand that theres so much a single person can do, I am not attacking every high level even if it sounds like I hate them all, I used to be a high level but I never took the game seriously and helped just about anyone, nowadays I just relax in town and spend my time chatting, but I do sometimes get request from newbies to take them out on quest hunting, so I tend to help them with that. Props to you for helping people and not being egotistical though, we need more warriors like ya.
@quitms bad is not a possession, the word you are looking for is you are, while we are on the topic of bad, tell us all the good qualities you might have, I am deeply intrigued.
@ultimapi I fucking told you so.
Theres a new update coming soon or something, so I will give my takes on that, I will also create another forum discussing Event Prizes and Events in general, because I can guarantee the next "big update" is going to feel like the lesser one.
This game consists of RNG by about 98%. Let's reduce this figure rather than add onto it, shall we?
surprised no one is talking about the lack of idr and how much
idr cost considering +100 idr pots were 50mil even only when the game
was out for 1-2 months.
from the developer blog - july 4th talking about player
concerns.
We discussed many topics with the developer this week regarding
player community's concerns
7. Potions for increasing Ely and item loot rate.
No additional potions of this kind will be provided beyond what is
already available.
this is what killed off the game as getting 4-6 mana lab weapon
drops doesn't feel rewarding when you finish it after 1 hour with 3
other people and each person only walks away with 1-2 drops or none
at all. This kills off the incentive for strong players to do
dungeons with weaker players because there isn't enough loot to go
around. A strong person would rather solo and take 30 minutes to get
6 loots then spend a lot of time (low player base) to find 3-4 weaker
players and take 15 minutes to finish while only getting 1 loot.
They could've just made IDR more accessible and put in prime
(+500) idr pots allowing more players to do dungeons together as
there is more loot. Having no idr pots works in KLT because they have
enough of a player base and enough strong players where there is a
abundant of items in the game as way more players are running these
dungeons. However with only a handful of strong players on papaya
latale, it means the handful of players control the market by selling
leeches to players and the stronger equipment's.
The weaker players have no way to catch up as the stronger players
are soloing and if the content is too hard only all the strongest
players band together to beat it. KLT"s bigger player base
allows more of these strong players and more equipment's to
eventually make it way down to the weaker player base think of it as
"hand me down equipment's" for reasonable prices as there
is many to go around. This allows weaker players to catch up easier.
Here at papaya weaker players who are able to do harder dungeons
with 5-6 man parties wouldn't due to the low player base (too hard to
find 5-6 players capable of doing the dungeon with you daily as
everyone has different schedules) and not enough rewards for going
with such a large party. This results with the weaker players buying
either leeches/ over priced equipment (remember 2 billion ely
blasphemy sets for a while) unless you have some kind stronger
friends to help you. The problem is some players will push on but a
small portion will drop out of the game. As the game progresses with
no new players coming in, continuously the players who can't keep up
due to the high ely demand will keep dropping out.
Granted this isn't all of papayas fault as they are shafted by
actoz as they can't implement what we say unless actoz approves it.
I'm basing this off on the statement given by papaya:
We discussed many topics with the DEVELOPER this week regarding
player community's concerns
7. Potions for increasing Ely and item loot rate.
No additional potions of this kind will be provided beyond what is
already available
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But we'll get there eventually.
~[CR]TheArchitect
Oh before I forget, if it cannot be removed, why did they ask how we felt about it? makes no sense. they even went along by saying "ok, we will do something about it." but that is besides the point. Can they at least copy OGP gamble box and at least ASK US what we would like to see in the next gamble box, nothing like "oh yeah put all the pets in there and uhhhh a super op weapon with +400 max and min" but more like make a wish-list every week collecting data of gamble boxes wishes. Like if 100 people say "can you try adding pet herbs (x2) to gamble boxes and maybe some pet damage puzzles" then that could be added to a list of potentials (that they would think to add) to the next gamble box.
The current gamble box, if it cannot be removed, should be improved upon. It was cute the first few months of the game, but the playerbase has grown, and most of those things are unwanted.
@loveyoudt I'm pretty sure you are the fake ezzen, but if not. I am glad your English is getting better. I am not gonna lie to you, OGP was like 0.00000001% better than papaya, this company and its game is in its infancy, it could improve but their daddy (Actoz) does not want them to. Try learning the process they go through things compared to that of OGP, because OGP did whatever the hell they wanted and left the players feeling like shit. They did have some greater aspects though, don't get me wrong. I will say that I would like this game to have somewhat of a boldness to that of OGP, but keep its humbleness like that of papaya has. (communicate with the dev,but if they feel like they need this in order to not die out, they should.) because right now they are just a bunch of pantsy.
1. It is unnecessary to increase it, it was one of the main reasons why inflation on OGP was surreal, same with ely. Now, I'm going to sound like one of those assholes who says "getting 400 idr is eazy-peazy" but I do believe the higher that you are, the more accessible IDR is given to you (zekal brooch for example). Coming from a game that gave you 80 loot boxes in one chest and everyone got at least 10, there is a lot of differences. Now I do wish that this game did give newbies essentials that they truly need, the whole level up box needs a major rework. Within these essentials I feel like you guys should be given IDR +100 pots and pony elixirs, things that the community would actually need. Once reaching 200, you should get a level up box every level, so that the constant supply of said items can encourage people to grind and level, allowing for people to WANT to clear higher content, giving both higher level and lower level player an even out playing field.
2. I will agree on you that this game lacks what Korea has, but its not like the higher level can even complete multiple sets of elrian weapon or what not. One is not the supply, but the price to pay. See making a weapon even reach +12 is a high risk, and it gets worst the more you go up. What the high levels do with weapon is that they have spares in increment, +11 then +12 and then another weapon at +13. Sometimes even multiple of these. I believe if they are not going to use it, they should pass it down to a friend or someone who doesn't need it, some are enhanced to Lucient (I think that's the +9 name) and people still don't want to hand it down to lower level. In korea you can earn a max enhanced elrian weapon through gold dart as a second place prize, so there is a heavy chain of these weapons circulating the market at around 300 million ely. They are also way over prepared to handle content because korea actually knows how to supply their in game store and also keep players engaged with calendar events and other small-time events.
3. Clear Time is an issue because of RNG in this game, most of the items to make us well prepared for whatever is in store for us is locked under a random number generator. Some older contents should be removed entirely, or partial. Take for example Yggdrasil Badges, with its 20% success rate. I am baffled as to why it still is low, like make it 50% chance at the bare minimum because we need those to reach gallus badges or whatever. The same can be said when items do have 100% chance of success like aurora sticker, but is locked under a 70% crafting rate. Removing these locked chambers would allow people to advance forward into the game, or at the bare minimum better supply the individual so that they can handle whatevers in store for them. Even with the minus 50% hp or lower tdd that was implemented with agni, a group of people still cannot clear end game content, that's why leeches are still given out with no loot.
that is just some of my personal intake on the matter.
@Aegelweard I would agree to that but I rather take a gold dart any day rather than a gamble box. A gold dart has a confirmed fix rate. Its like if youre playing a crane game with a friend and you both know the tricks to winning that crane game. On your crane, you cant seem to win anything no matter what you do, but on your friends he seem to be able to win no matter how bad he plays. You then try his crane and start to magically win. That is what gold dart is compared to gamble boxes. I spent on OGP, like 20-40 dollars on darts one day, and I got milky, marina, and lulu, within my supply of darts, and I still managed to have more than half of my darts still available for other random things I may want (and I did).
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If you want me to tell all your bad points and whatever "feud" I may have with you, expect it on a forum post called "Augustine the egotistical ass-hat", if you never see it, then its because I don't care enough to dig through my portfolio and find all your fault and folly.
good day sir, I hope you have a good one.
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