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Good luck to both of you, I will miss your wisdom.
But remember do NOT spend a single cent on this game until you gain the same progress and content. It is not right to pay for the movie again when you watch it the second time.
I want to see how long can the server run in this BS mode.
Just saw this:
http://forum.papayaplay.com/index.php?p=/discussion/359112/if-papaya-does-another-bad-move-or-goes-by-any-form-even-more-p2w-we-really-need-to-stop-playing#latest
Looks like we might be entering another money milker. Really hope they don't change too much of the UWO system like preventing people from obtaining some items that were previously attainable with OGP/NM. Doesn't look like they connect with communicate well by looking at the other gaming communities. I wouldn't be surprised if they start throwing free trials and memberships on top of microtransactions. I will be hoping for the best and that they don't ruin the game.
@Vatiquois - thank you for all in UWO - and all the best for you wherever you go. I can understand you and others all too well. I am just not yet decided (only that i wont pay any real money for UWO for a very long time)
Some said here that the server wipe was not Papaya's but KOEI's decision. If I was Papaya in such a case I would make a pretty clear announcement so the players are aware why the server was wiped and that they could not help it.
The server wipe is really a very bad way to start - alienating the player community and making sure that people will hesitate to spend real money for the game.
Company: FUBB
Nation: Ottoman
Levels - 67 Adventure 87 Trade 78 Maritime
7Nation SBer / Grader
And when you offend the greater part of your customer base who helped run the program for you and took care of training new players to do the same, it becomes less of a gamble, and more of a folly.
I agree even more with that theory. Going by the Founder Rewards: Either they only have access to our character levels or they are capable of not resetting the world.
Papaya is going to get new players from. Some who play their other games
might try UWO, but that's not very promising for profits. The only time
I recall UWO getting a flood of new players was when they added Steam,
and that won't work now. For those of who have played 7 years, one of NM
GMs once posted a sad fact about UWO (probably wasn't supposed to) -
that 50% of new players quit in the first 2 weeks of play. That was back
before all the fancy astro stuff and FS builds - an indication that top
level players with their wealth are probably not the reason new people
quit.
I am quitting mostly because of the wipe. There's a lot of
stuff they could take from me and I wouldn't care, but after my first 2
years I achieved my goals and only continued playing because I found
adventure was not only fun, but educational. I have a favorites folder
UWO and it has UWO info sites plus many others, like an animal data base
for researching things I learned playing the game. Sure, they sometimes
messed with historical facts, but not in mind numbing ways. That is why
I can't start over. Adventuring is the only reason I was playing
anymore and doing all the quests/maps again isn't about learning, it's
just going through the motions. Time is too important to spend it repeating what has already been done before.
But I was close to quitting
before the wipe, so like always, I don't count. I don't know why, but
Industrial Age made the game feel different. Other things like the
canals, long schooners and such were a stretch, but with the recent
patch it no longer seemed like UWO was a game about The Age of Sail and
so many of the recent patches didn't add anything interesting - gold
digging is mostly a bust and the future gem mining probably will be too.
What really bothered me was the adventure discoveries were far less
interesting or mysterious - my saved websites weren't being used much
anymore.
So I'm not going to criticize those who stay or those
who, like me, are going to leave. Certainly money spent should be an
issue for many, but it's not just the money, it's the years of in game
items we've now lost and the work put into our characters. I adventured
when you could still get lost in a big landing site for an hour - my
toon earned most of the levels the hard way and she doesn't care if it's
easier now.
It's also about Koei/NM/OGP
ruining/damaging/breaking the game and instead of being creative to get
things closer to where they want it to be, they punish the proven, loyal
players. I wasn't super rich in ducats and sailed shipyard boats. I
also didn't let the ducat wealth or super ships of others bother me.
Papaya has decided to take everything and none of it is real, so they
get away with it. Imagine a company pulling that on their loyal
customers in real life matters involving either hard work or money spent
- it's a poor business practice, but in gaming it seems to work okay
(UWO is the only online game I play, so that's a guess.)
One
thing I don't believe is that Koei is behind the wipe - if they have any
guilt it's probably in agreeing to allow it. Papaya has done this to
other games, so it was probably them requiring it to host the UWO. I'm
not positive about that though - around where I live Koei is an unknown
entity. I say Koei to anyone and they either give me a blank stare or
think I'm talking about goldfish. I like Koei games but I'm not sure
they're that good at marketing their products (maybe in other locations
they are?)
I hope enough people stay to keep the game going. Of
the four people I convinced to play, I was the only one left - the
others liked it, but felt it was too time consuming to continue. I will
be one of those who logs in on the 18th, then after I have a good cry, I
will be gone too.
I wrote too much, but that's cause Papaya
didn't post my other 6 attempts and maybe this one won't work either -
probably doesn't matter much. I was mostly invisible in the game too (not private mode, just invisible.)
Hopefully some people will stick around
because I can't imagine where Papaya is going to get new players
from. Some who play their other games might try UWO, but that's not
very promising for profits. The only time I recall UWO getting a
flood of new players was when they added Steam, and that won't work
now. For those of who have played 7 years, one of NM GMs once posted
a sad fact about UWO (probably wasn't supposed to) - that 50% of new
players quit in the first 2 weeks of play. That was back before all
the fancy astro stuff and FS builds - an indication that top level
players with their wealth are probably not the reason new people
quit.
I am quitting mostly because of the wipe. There's a lot
of stuff they could take from me and I wouldn't care, but after my
first 2 years I achieved my goals and only continued playing because
I found adventure was not only fun, but educational. I have a
favorites folder UWO and it has UWO info sites plus many others, like
an animal data base for researching things I learned playing the
game. Sure, they sometimes messed with historical facts, but not in
mind numbing ways. That is why I can't start over. Adventuring is the
only reason I was playing anymore and doing all the quests/maps again
isn't about learning, it's just going through the motions. Time is
too important to spend it repeating what has already been done
before.
But I was close to quitting before the wipe, so like
always, I don't count. I don't know why, but Industrial Age made the
game feel different. Other things like the canals, long schooners and
such were a stretch, but with the recent patch it no longer seemed
like UWO was a game about The Age of Sail and so many of the recent
patches didn't add anything interesting - gold digging is mostly a
bust and the future gem mining probably will be too. What really
bothered me was the adventure discoveries were far less interesting
or mysterious - my saved websites weren't being used much
anymore.
So I'm not going to criticize those who stay or those
who, like me, are going to leave. Certainly money spent should be an
issue for many, but it's not just the money, it's the years of in
game items we've now lost and the work put into our characters. I
adventured when you could still get lost in a big landing site for an
hour - my toon earned most of the levels the hard way and she doesn't
care if it's easier now.
It's also about Koei/NM/OGP
ruining/damaging/breaking the game and instead of being creative to
get things closer to where they want it to be, they punish the
proven, loyal players. I wasn't super rich in ducats and sailed
shipyard boats. I also didn't let the ducat wealth or super ships of
others bother me. Papaya has decided to take everything and none of
it is real, so they get away with it. Imagine a company pulling that
on their loyal customers in real life matters involving either hard
work or money spent - it's a poor business practice, but in gaming it
seems to work okay (UWO is the only online game I play, so that's a
guess.)
One thing I don't believe is that Koei is behind the
wipe - if they have any guilt it's probably in agreeing to allow it.
Papaya has done this to other games, so it was probably them
requiring it to host the UWO. I'm not positive about that though -
around where I live Koei is an unknown entity. I say Koei to anyone
and they either give me a blank stare or think I'm talking about
goldfish. I like Koei games but I'm not sure they're that good at
marketing their products (maybe in other locations they are?)
I
hope enough people stay to keep the game going. Of the four people I
convinced to play, I was the only one left - the others liked it, but
felt it was too time consuming to continue. I will be one of those
who logs in on the 18th, then after I have a good cry, I will be gone
too.
I wrote too much, but that's cause Papaya didn't post my
other 5 6 7 attempts and maybe this one won't work either - probably
doesn't matter much. I was mostly invisible in the game too (not
private mode, just invisible.)
this makes me so sad, it's like a part of my life is ripped away, what a waste to wipe everything
they have NO IDEA that years of work, and ship building cannot be replaced
I would be okay with them removing special god gear, etc, but not our ships
I'm crying over my Modified Soleil ... sigh
SenileFrenchGeezer here. Mamacat, I was not going to comment, I was just going to quit and fade into the French sunset. I loved and cherished you, mamacat (don't keel me Lug: I am French, and can't help it, I am also quite harmless, and glad mamacat is happy now). You made me so ashamed of myself, mamacat; I have been playing for years, had 2 nice warships, adventured as a Priest, and had all adventure skills and haul and salvage. Had a nice aide named Shirin(?), whom I got out of her burka (put a French Petticoat on her), who had haul and salvage. All that and I claim 6 discoveries and 4 ship wrecks to my name. I had 5 farms with Resin, and helped make suede and +2 farm tools. I usually helped with handicrafts and cooking. I was originally named SenileOldGeezer, which is my name on several other games, but after seeing how much the French were hated, I started over and replaced "Old" with "French". I was a joke toon, not to be taken seriously. I was too 'senile" to understand when I was being insulted.
Then I saw you, and spoke with you, and saw how much of an adventure whirlwind you were, and I had decided to stop being a joke toon, and I even bought expanded Captain's Bag, to store all my maps. All the other toons fed me SWMPs; I had 999 on my toon, and 999 on another toon. Then . . . this happens . . .
So I want you to know, mamacat, that you may not know how many lives you have touched. You certainly touched mine, and I believe my real-life prayers helped you. I do not know who you are, but God does. Out of losing all my skills, levels, ducats, and possessions, losing you will be my greatest loss.
Much respect to you and Lug
~ a Senile French Geezer, Priest (passes Collection Plate around)