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Windstalker here:
First
point: what had to be said about flags, been said, so I wont dwell on that
Second : I
sail this game for a few years again, mainly without flags. I do namban and I love
the excitement of pirates.
I have been
white, orange and red and I have faced being farmed massively by Blues who took
adventage when I was a beginner and NOT able to help myself.
If it wasn’t
for a long term game experience I might have quit, but I am stubborn and sworn
revenge.
Interesting experience : During all the time its been mainly the socalled goodies who caused unhappyness or their alts among players..less pirates or socalled baddies.
This change
to a new maritime system will show a bunch of problems:
PP will
face a hell off loss of players for we have a playerbase of 80% trade/adv and
MAYBE 20% marit.
PP already
have made the mistake with the WIPE what led into a totally unbalanced system and
a lot of players stopped playing.
I have the
feeling PP doesn’t realizes what good playerbase they have. Within half a year
most cities , structures etc have been rebuilt!
THAT IS
playerwork and RLmoney! Playertime !
PP ! What
is a game without players? Never take loyality for granted…less even RL money support!
With this
change a lot of improvements like Astronomy become absurd.
Quote:
ccsray88
Thinking
about “Weather Phenomena”, those discoveries at sea that need time and
patience, how can adventurer stop their ship at the spot to wait for the
phenomena to appear when pirate is able to appear anytime and farm the waiting
adventurer. Using of large tribute will only buy a few minutes while phenomena
often take far more time than that to appear. Same problem will appear on
charting and pulling shipwrecks where player need to stay in the same water
doing it, a pirate which can continuously attack and farm which force the
player to abandon the effort.
Some doing just
NEED protection be it against NPC or players. Consider the short term of time u
plan for flags around suez ? You will constantly defend against npc to raise a
ship.
Have u ever
considered that?
You kill
fun and the possibilities of this game and even improvement to please a handful
of people.
We already
face that most NONE bottle equipment (extreme expensive) cant be used on sea
for the risk of being ambushed and plundered.
Not very fun
and now no more reason to purchase them from Alchemists!
It’s been
those changes what is killing Alchemy. Who needs items you are likely to lose!
Next to new
and beginner players..
I have
NEVER seen or experienced BIG Pirates to attack me while I was small. In
contrary they usually been helpful.. DO THEIR JOB …ambush.. but make sure I got
to next port.
It’s a
profession!
WHAT we can’t
support is FARMING!
Farming IS
HARRASSMENT and must be banned.
We play the
game, support it to have fun and relax!
NONE of us
is willing to pay for unhappiness or waste our time. Lots of nice new games
outside.. no need to be unhappy.
CPC already
pointed out the problem ..
OLD players
…routine players consider please:
Maritime is
a complex fight..
You guys suggest
grinding ..growing ..u guys have forgotten the time u been without skills
You forget
maritime is a fight where a new player has to coordinate shock , handling ,
strategy, keyboard and emotion parallel !
It takes
big time to get routine.
New players
sit at sea, worried, frustrated and often lost, close to frustration tears.
They NEED
time to recollect !
Its not
only grinding BR its fighting an enemy!
And farming
WILL take the fun out of game and leads to utter frustration.
Especially
as those who support it offend and destroy the will of playing this game.
Again !
I am not
against Pirates but won’t it be better to attract new or old players in a
different way?
Break up
the effects by massive blocking of whole continents mayors of one single person
or group?
Add an
anti-grief rule like on Asian servers and make sure economy can’t get out of
control.
Also give
players the time to grind produce search etc.
Right now
one event hunts the next..
Players
need time to PLAY
Maybe add
events like the twitter sceenshot event what allows playing .. or write tiny
stories ,poems , create new crests etc
When shall
the player live or play?
Farming won’t
lead to more players neither happiness…
All we NOW
GET is the players banned from other servers for harassing people there !
Quote
Roiber:
It takes
all of us - pvp, pve, traders, builders, etc - to move this game forward, so
get off your little perches and realize your alienating a good portion of the
financial support for this game.
First
point: what had to be said about flags, been said, so I wont dwell on that
Second : I
sail this game for a few years again, mainly without flags. I do namban and I love
the excitement of pirates.
I have been
white, orange and red and I have faced being farmed massively by Blues who took
adventage when I was a beginner and NOT able to help myself.
If it wasn’t
for a long term game experience I might have quit, but I am stubborn and sworn
revenge.
This change
to a new maritime system will show a bunch of problems:
PP will
face a hell off loss of players for we have a playerbase of 80% trade/adv and
MAYBE 20% marit.
PP already
have made the mistake with the WIPE what led into a totally unbalanced system and
a lot of players stopped playing.
I have the
feeling PP doesn’t realizes what good playerbase they have. Within half a year
most cities , structures etc have been rebuilt!
THAT IS
playerwork and RLmoney! Playertime !
PP ! What
is a game without players? Never take loyality for granted…less even RL money support!
With this
change a lot of improvements like Astronomy become absurd.
Quote:
ccsray88
Thinking
about “Weather Phenomena”, those discoveries at sea that need time and
patience, how can adventurer stop their ship at the spot to wait for the
phenomena to appear when pirate is able to appear anytime and farm the waiting
adventurer. Using of large tribute will only buy a few minutes while phenomena
often take far more time than that to appear. Same problem will appear on
charting and pulling shipwrecks where player need to stay in the same water
doing it, a pirate which can continuously attack and farm which force the
player to abandon the effort.
Some doing just
NEED protection be it against NPC or players. Consider the short term of time u
plan for flags around suez ? You will constantly defend against npc to raise a
ship.
Have u ever
considered that?
You kill
fun and the possibilities of this game and even improvement to please a handful
of people.
We already
face that most NONE bottle equipment (extreme expensive) cant be used on sea
for the risk of being ambushed and plundered.
Not very fun
and now no more reason to purchase them from Alchemists!
It’s been
those changes what is killing Alchemy. Who needs items you are likely to lose!
Next to new
and beginner players..
I have
NEVER seen or experienced BIG Pirates to attack me while I was small. In
contrary they usually been helpful.. DO THEIR JOB …ambush.. but make sure I got
to next port.
It’s a
profession!
WHAT we can’t
support is FARMING!
Farming IS
HARRASSMENT and must be banned.
We play the
game, support it to have fun and relax!
NONE of us
is willing to pay for unhappiness or waste our time. Lots of nice new games
outside.. no need to be unhappy.
CPC already
pointed out the problem ..
OLD players
…routine players consider please:
Maritime is
a complex fight..
You guys suggest
grinding ..growing etc
You forget
maritime is a fight where a new player has to coordinate shock , handling ,
strategy, keyboard and emotion parallel !
It takes
big time to get routine.
New players
sit at sea, worried, frustrated and often lost, close to frustration tears.
They NEED
time to recollect !
Its not
only grinding BR its fighting an enemy!
And farming
WILL take the fun out of game and leads to utter frustration.
Especially
as those who support it offend and destroy the will of playing this game.
Again !
I am not
against Pirates but won’t it be better to attract new or old players in a
different way?
Break up
the effects by massive blocking of whole continents mayors of one single person
or group?
Add an
anti-grief rule like on Asian servers and make sure economy can’t get out of
control.
Also give
players the time to grind produce search etc.
Right now
one event hunts the next..
Players
need time to PLAY
Maybe add
events like the twitter sceenshot event what allows playing .. or write tiny
stories ,poems , create new crests etc
When shall
the player live or play?
Farming won’t
lead to more players neither happiness…
All we NOW
GET is the players banned from other servers for harassing people there !
Quote
Roiber:
It takes
all of us - pvp, pve, traders, builders, etc - to move this game forward, so
get off your little perches and realize your alienating a good portion of the
financial support for this game.
And how did the rules/guidelines that where there from the start of the game become naver pirate rules lol
people are making a huge deal out of this for nothign any one that played back in the day should know this we did just fine back thin .
people use to lol at pirates even back in the day because they had the skills to keep there self safe like high storage and the ship skill that make plunder next to use less.
U people are tring to turn pirates in to some huge monster that u think every one should fear there not.
The real prob is people have alts now that they sail with thats the only diff from now and back thin.And they dont want to buy 3 blue flags.
Also cpc didnt u also make a topic not long ago about how u think the co killed crafting i for one would think u would be all for pirates being able to plunder better and more agin from a crafters stand point.
More pirates = more bhs=more cannons and gear that can be made and sold
Also id be fine if the limit was 10 -20mins max that morethin enouth time to get out of x sea allmost no matter where u are .
And yes there are going to be a few
pirates that take farming to the extreme so what should all pirates be held back because of a few.
IF u dont like it hire bodyguards like people use to back in the spice run days before nanban
TO low lv and not the $$ join a guild and get help
Maybe with this the concept of working togeather will come back to the game some and not be such a all for one with alts kind of deal.
After the
release of the details concerning the removal of any restriction concerning the
amount of times a white-named player can be attacked/farmed/plundered within a
certain amount of time, the community has reacted heavily to this situation
with good reasons.
I do agree
nanbanners have had it pretty easy for the past years without having much to
worry about pirates since there is almost none and that after they get attacked
by that pirate, they basically can keep playing in peace for the next hours
since they either will meet the same pirate that attacked them earlier, or will
just not meet any pirates at all.
I decided
to propose my own ideas to maybe change a bit the way the thing were supposed
to go toward. Although, it will be necessary to fix a bug (if it is a bug) wich
makes that when a white-named player gets engaged by a pirate and that this
white-named player manages to kill the pirate, he becomes a blue-named player
(Bounty Hunters/BH). In my opinion you should only be able to become a BH
through attacking a pirate.
1. 1.Keeping the limit a white-named
player can be attacked every 1 hour by the same pirate or reducing it by 30
minutes. Completely removing might make some pirates start disrupting the
gameplay of other players even if they did or did not look for the farming
result.
2. 2.Make blue-named players/BH an actual
thing. Pirates and Bounty hunters are players that should always be ready for a
fight. I recommend that Bounty hunters can be engaged in any sea at any time,
even in safe waters pirates should be able to engage bounty hunters thus
creating a sort of rivalty between blue-named and red/orange-named players.
3. 3.This one is a little bit trickier
since I do not really know the answer to it. I’d say increase the rewards
coming from pirating and Bounty Hunting to motivate player to do so. Maybe something
with the scoreboard with a weekly/monthly reset with rewards for best players
giving away exclusive rewards that can be useful to any classes. This one
needed a bit more thought about it but I’ll let the others propose what they
have in mind.
I personally
believe that letting the pirates farm traders again will just disrupt the
players that just wants to play the game.
I have been playing this game for a long time and I know what it feels
like to be farmed by a pirate and it is not a good feeling at all. I haven’t
check if these have already been proposed. I am pretty sure it’s flawed a bit
but with everyone’s help we can maybe get to a possible answer. My English isn’t
the best so please be forgiving about that x.x Feel free to bring up more ideas
to these proposition. I just believe the best way to bring back piracy is to bring
a rivalty and encourage the PvP between 2 teams of players with of course some
loot. J
Legacy / Asura / LapinIn Gama, pirates were able to attack white names repeatedly. We already have experienced it before. And we do know how bad it can get. I am one of the players who have been around since India patch and have witnessed how players quit due to this in the past and have never returned. Even if they do return, they only do so after a few years, not months. Therefore, a trial period is a terrible idea.
1) This piracy change affects players who do not have ships ducats and other resources more than rich players with fast ships. Even f you do have a fast ship like SHC, SLS and so on, when you carry any goods, you face a sail penalty even if you have a ship with 100 wave resistance. You will always be slower than a ship without cargo in the same setup
2) Tributes will not work as a countermeasure for many players. Pirates will just follow your ship since they are in a speed setup and you will run out of tributes at some point. Once again, spare a thought for players without resources.
3) Right now, PPP has not done anything to farming of alt accounts, use of alt accounts to force neutral players blue. How is this relevant to this change? Pirates can farm alts right on day 1 o force seas to be lawless if desired. This has already occurred before in GAMA. Some players have admitted in MARIS too that they have done it. They can hide in a corner of that ocean tile to do this I have sent in screenshots to you, PPP by the way of people getting around the .1 hr restriction ( yes its possible) and you have not addressed it properly til now.
4) Bounty hunter titles require 3X the honor as pirate titles. PPP, if you are saying that this is the way it is set up, please apply the same reasoning to wuxu east asia goods price discrepancy and compare prices to Japanese server. We know that you are using that reason only when you like it. The costs of active bounty hunt (pure blue name) is considerably high as compared to occasional bounty hunt especially for organized teams. The cost is also higher than piracy. We would appreciate the honor requirement for bounty hunter titles adjusted to be the same as pirate titles at least. What you are doing, PPP is to force blue names to farm alts for titles too.
5) It is incorrect to say that if there are more pirates there will be more bounty hunters.
Correlation does not mean causation. It wil be more accurate to say that if there are more pirates, t will be more probable that more bounty hunters will appear. Right now. You only receive a bounty if you sink pirates via canons. Item plunder occurs via melee only. Does PPP want all mariitimers to do only melee combat in 10V10? That’s so boring. Will PPP consider allowing blue names to get tem plunder at a reduced probability using canons vs orange and reds?
6) Right now, trade 11 accounts can enter seas outside Europe. Pirates can use these to log in as spotter acounts and refuse to log in their prate accounts. When pure blue names (bounty hunters) arrive, they can only stare at that spotter account. Why are trade 11 accounts even allowed in east asia waters for instance. Prates can pass items and ducats to storage accounts. PPP, can we at least try to discourage players from doing this by setting a minimum 10K fame requirement to enter some seas, for example east asia? IF you are not ready to fix the loopholes don’t launch changes unprepared.
7) Piracy is not ALL of maritime. PPP. Be very clear on this. There are a number of players who take art in battel campaign, ESF, mocks. PPP, you may check on who came up with the suggestion to remove durability loss in battle campaign, if you want to. Did it come from a pirate?
8) In Gama, there are a number of players who behaved badly after pirating on players. Name calling, Player lynching, you name it you have it. Echoesoftimezero and gacaptmorgan were spreading anti-Asian campaigns on forums and ingame. My adventurer friend who brought 4 other friends for a long adventure quest chain was accused of multi 5. Can we leave the policing of mult-5 to pirates? Based on what happened in gama, the answer is no. For this case, PPP, you need to improve your IT system to auto detect players using more than 3 accounts at the same time. The responsibility to police this lies mainly with you here. In fact, I was sent threats via PM back then for standing up for some players.
These are some of the thoughts I have for this matter. I only came in to post on forums after being requested by some CAs. I am busy with writing proposals for players in internal channels right now, I have already sent in tickets to PPP for a number of issues, which is not resolved til this day. To be honest, at this point, most players have run out of patience with PPP.
Thank you for reading.
Buffet
After the
release of the details concerning the removal of any restriction concerning the
amount of times a white-named player can be attacked/farmed/plundered within a
certain amount of time, the community has reacted heavily to this situation
with good reasons.
I do agree
nanbanners have had it pretty easy for the past years without having much to
worry about pirates since there is almost none and that after they get attacked
by that pirate, they basically can keep playing in peace for the next hours since
they either will meet the same pirate that attacked them earlier, or will just
not meet any pirates at all.
I decided
to propose my own ideas to maybe change a bit the way the thing were supposed
to go toward. Although, it will be necessary to fix a bug (if it is a bug) wich
makes that when a white-named player gets engaged by a pirate and that this
white-named player manages to kill the pirate, he becomes a blue-named player
(Bounty Hunters/BH). In my opinion you should only be able to become a BH through
attacking a pirate.
1. Keeping the limit a white-named
player can be attacked every 1 hour by the same pirate or reducing it by 30
minutes. Completely removing might make some pirates start disrupting the
gameplay of other players even if they did or did not look for the farming
result.
2. Make blue-named players/BH an actual
thing. Pirates and Bounty hunters are players that should always be ready for a
fight. I recommend that Bounty hunters can be engaged in any sea at any time,
even in safe waters pirates should be able to engage bounty hunters thus
creating a sort of rivalty between blue-named and red/orange-named players.
3. This one is a little bit trickier
since I do not really know the answer to it. I’d say increase the rewards
coming from pirating and Bounty Hunting to motivate player to do so. Maybe
something with the scoreboard with a weekly/monthly reset with rewards for best
players giving away exclusive rewards that can be useful to any classes. This
one needed a bit more thought about it but I’ll let the others propose what
they have in mind.
I
personally believe that letting the pirates farm traders again will just
disrupt the players that just wants to play the game. I have been playing this game for a long time
and I know what it feels like to be farmed by a pirate and it is not a good
feeling at all. I haven’t check if these have already been proposed. I am
pretty sure it’s flawed a bit but with everyone’s help we can maybe get to a
possible answer. My English isn’t the best so please be forgiving about that
x.x Feel free to bring up more ideas to these proposition. I just believe the
best way to bring back piracy is to bring a rivalty and encourage the PvP
between 2 teams of players with of course some loot. J
Legacy /
Asura / Lapin
Problem is, doing adventuring quests in asian servers requires knowing a lot of Japanese/Chinese/Korean, for Maris UWO is the only English-language server left that I know of, and Im only fluent in English.
If you can’t handle the pressure, play something else!
I think I’m going red now just flush out some of whiners from this server
Pirates are allowed to non stop hitting any players on sea very good idea ......more adv and trade players will leave game
But they are not. They gave a Trial with Period, mentioning EXACTLY it is from 1st of Aug to 22th. Okay, precise, formal, and crystal clear enough. That makes me earn a bit confidence back from them.
And I am glad I am wrong.
Based on what factors, measurements, judgement, your trial will result to?
2nd, I found this factor really quite disturbing and seems a little bit misleading.
Guys... when defeated, you are ending up with ONE SAILOR. How fast can a ship sail with 1 sailor? When we talk about dealing with pirates, we talk about avoiding melee contact at all cost. Fine tributes it is. Because once you are defeated, with one sailor, depend on your ship, how far are you from the sea, sometimes you can't even reach the nearest port in ONE HOUR.
Evony, is a web browser of city building and conquering game.
How are they supposed to find a target in the far blind ocean?
But... it is what a publisher can choose.
More tears and more whining.
No. It is not. This is not the kind of "balance" I mean.
The JOY, is what happens when they actually involve themselves, and play it.
When a game looks fun, but there is no joy when you play it?
Wow, guns based on real life simulation. FUN ISN'T IT?
It is just that simple.
But when you are close to the sniper. The sniper dies as well.
Farm villa, is actually a very addictive game.
As you can see the difference between them can be so huge and totally unrelated.
It is not an indicator, but it is usually the case.
There are people who like sexy images in games.
But when every horror movie is like that, which one makes it different?
It is a simulation of building games. You get to build the things until you formed something big up. That is the joy of simulation building games.
Airplane.